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      08-29-2008, 11:14 AM   #89
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I think a lot of that is a bid to pick up Hillary supporters, who are almost certainly too smart to vote Republican just to see a woman in the VP position - I'm interested to hear what she has to say about Palin.

After watching Obama's phenomenal speech last night, I can't believe that McCain could even come close to building that level of enthusiasm. I think Obama did a great job of pushing back on a lot of the accusations leveled against him and made a lot of good criticisms without seeming petty. A friend of mine was interning on the speechwriting team and was on the field there - I called him up and he said the energy was amazing as he shouted over the fireworks.

Steelerbimmer, I can't tell if you're serious or trolling. You're either doing a great satire Steven Colbert-style, or, well, I'm not really sure.:iono:

Serious as a heart attack my friend.

If that Leftist appeaser Nobambi ever gets control of our military as POTUS our eneimies both foreign and domestic will be dancing in the streets.

I do not mean good honest dems nor even liberal minded Americans but the truly hard leftists that Nobambi has associated, studied, befriended and worked with over the years.

All anyone needs to know is whom do our enemies abroad like Hamas, Iran, Cuba, Hezzbolah, and Chavez the pineapple head said they want to win in 2008.

Hint: It's not McCain.
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You are still free in this greatest of countries, until the Left takes over, to call anyone anything especially public figures and even more so those trying to run the free world.

So have at it my friend and let's see how entertaining and relevant it will be.
Entertaining maybe...but relevant? I dont think so...
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FYI -- you don't even need to bother scrolling past his posts. Just add him to the ignore list like I did (first poster to receive that honor on this board) when he persisted with his ad hominem attacks. Not to mention the pain involved in trying to work through his 5th grade spelling/grammar. Wouldn't be surprised if he got banned soon anyway.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8629
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      08-29-2008, 03:02 PM   #92
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Not everyone I meet is trying to run for POTUS and carry the nuclear football.

So yes, in this case respect must be earned and Nobambi has done zippo to have earned that from me.

You are still free in this greatest of countries, until the Left takes over, to call anyone anything especially public figures and even more so those trying to run the free world.

So have at it my friend and let's see how entertaining and relevant it will be.
Well, you are correct about respect being earned. However (and I am an independent voter who is undecided currently), there is a difference between disrepect and someone who has not earned your respect. You don't know the man, so it is fair to say he has not earned your respect. It is not fair, however, to disrepect him with all the name calling.
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      08-29-2008, 03:17 PM   #93
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Entertaining maybe...but relevant? I dont think so...
Try, I'm sure you can think of something both entertaining and relevant at the same time.

Afterall, you did get Terracotta interior like I did right?
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Try, I'm sure you can think of something both entertaining and relevant at the same time.

Afterall, you did get Terracotta interior like I did right?

That sir I did...LOL Lets just agree to disagree on the whole name change thing.:wink:
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ok... from someone that has lived Canada, USA and Europe. Who is very liberal but also believes in respect as a value and not religion.

I really would like to see Obama win.

I really do not care about how many years he has here and there. He is more level headed then anyone running. I prefer someone who will talk then pick up the red blinking phone to the pentagon. (Hopefully he will even take spending away from the military). Think about how many children could have such a wonderful educational future and that makes the US a much stronger working force.

Education, economy, and universal healthcare are very important things for the country. I hope that the US can learn from other countries that some social systems do work and can be mixed in american style laws and governing.

Even though I own a 135i I also believe that the countries infrastructure should overhauled for a more environmental future and I would be willing to pay another dollar a gallon at the tank.

Anyways I seemed to run off topic. For me its about the future of my newborn son not what is today. I hate war, I dislike guns but I enjoy money and a good life.


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ok... from someone that has lived Canada, USA and Europe. Who is very liberal but also believes in respect as a value and not religion.

I really would like to see Obama win.

I really do not care about how many years he has here and there. He is more level headed then anyone running. I prefer someone who will talk then pick up the red blinking phone to the pentagon. (Hopefully he will even take spending away from the military). Think about how many children could have such a wonderful educational future and that makes the US a much stronger working force.

Education, economy, and universal healthcare are very important things for the country. I hope that the US can learn from other countries that some social systems do work and can be mixed in american style laws and governing.

Even though I own a 135i I also believe that the countries infrastructure should overhauled for a more environmental future and I would be willing to pay another dollar a gallon at the tank.

Anyways I seemed to run off topic. For me its about the future of my newborn son not what is today. I hate war, I dislike guns but I enjoy money and a good life.


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And what country are you living in and a citizen of?

If not the USA then butt out of our election process.

If it was not for the USA's military spending, guess what, no secure life for your newborn son, no money nor good life for you and the rest of the free world.

That is why Old Europe and Canada can shoot off their mouths about the USA's military spending and power because they know that the USA will come to their recue.

This allows them to practice their failing Socialist lifestyle because their freedoms are protected by the couage, blood, and military power of the USA.

If B.O. should become POTUS, then all the above things you listed as important to you will be threatened since he will try to disarm the USA if he could get away with it, and he never will.

If it does ever come close to this, then say bye, bye to the world you knew and the security you seek for your newborn son and your 135i.
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Well, you are correct about respect being earned. However (and I am an independent voter who is undecided currently), there is a difference between disrepect and someone who has not earned your respect. You don't know the man, so it is fair to say he has not earned your respect. It is not fair, however, to disrepect him with all the name calling.

If B.O. wants the job as POTUS, then he better toughen up and so should his groupies.

GWB was savaged for the past eight years as were those who supports him.
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Education, economy, and universal healthcare are very important things for the country. I hope that the US can learn from other countries that some social systems do work and can be mixed in american style laws and governing.
You are right PUREPHAZED. These are important issues for the country. But, strangely, large numbers of voters here do not vote in presidential elections based on an issue based platform. The McCain campaign knows this well, and the Dems ignore it at their peril.

Successful Republican candidates such as Bush and Reagan didn’t win on issues and policies. They ran (and won) mostly on selling their association (regardless of whether true or not) with notions such as trust, identity, character and, most of all, “values.” In that light, choosing Palin may be a shrewd choice for the McCain campaign. She can be used to promote the values that Republicans traditionally have tried (successfully) to project as exclusively theirs, e.g.: “toughness” (hunts and eats caribous); “individual responsibility and tough love” (daughter is pregnant and will marry the father); “discipline and hard work” (raised 5 kids while managing a successful political career).

None of these values are exclusively Republican or “conservative” of course. But in encapsulating them in the persona of the ideal “small town” conservative mom—pretty, leaning to the religious right, NRA member, son in the military etc.—she taps into some pretty strong republican themes and conservative stereotypes that could well translate into support for the McCain ticket in November despite the fact that the dems should have the upper hand on the issues (as the polls indicate). She also happens to offset McCain's weaknesses in some of these areas (e.g. privileged background--both his and Cindy's, stupendously rich, the wife #1 abandonment, long-time DC insider etc).

There is no way the Obama campaign saw this coming (hell, most members of the McCain campaign, and probably McCain himself didn’t see it coming a month ago), so it will be very interesting to see how they respond.
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ok... from someone that has lived Canada, USA and Europe. Who is very liberal but also believes in respect as a value and not religion.

I really would like to see Obama win.

I really do not care about how many years he has here and there. He is more level headed then anyone running. I prefer someone who will talk then pick up the red blinking phone to the pentagon. (Hopefully he will even take spending away from the military). Think about how many children could have such a wonderful educational future and that makes the US a much stronger working force.

Education, economy, and universal healthcare are very important things for the country. I hope that the US can learn from other countries that some social systems do work and can be mixed in american style laws and governing.

Even though I own a 135i I also believe that the countries infrastructure should overhauled for a more environmental future and I would be willing to pay another dollar a gallon at the tank.

Anyways I seemed to run off topic. For me its about the future of my newborn son not what is today. I hate war, I dislike guns but I enjoy money and a good life.


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Yeah, what country are you from? France, where a socialist system has fail. The military is what makes this country strong, how can you even think of taking military funding away. You way of thinking is what Karl Marx wrote about. This country is a republic not a socialist state.
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Former McCain donor here (the 2000 campaign) turned Obama supporter. I supported Obama back when he was trailing in Iowa by 30 points.

John McCain was a great candidate in 2000, but he is a shell of the man who was running back then..

Obama is probably the best candidate I've seen in my lifetime. This guy is the real deal.
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Yeah, what country are you from? France, where a socialist system has fail. The military is what makes this country strong, how can you even think of taking military funding away. You way of thinking is what Karl Marx wrote about. This country is a republic not a socialist state.
I am um ..... something that is ... ..look at my location.

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If B.O. wants the job as POTUS, then he better toughen up and so should his groupies.

GWB was savaged for the past eight years as were those who supports him.

I am sure that B.O. is used to all this, and as for me, as I stated, I am independent, undecided, and nobodies groupie. It's just about basic respect for others.
For example, for me I can't stand GWB that you mentioned. In my opinion, one of our worst in recent memory, but I don't go around calling him names.
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Yeah, what country are you from? France, where a socialist system has fail. The military is what makes this country strong, how can you even think of taking military funding away. You way of thinking is what Karl Marx wrote about. This country is a republic not a socialist state.
Yes we are a republic...but there are certain elements of socialism that can be beneficial to our republic...ie; a socialist healthcare system (although that would raise taxes significantly to be implemented properly).

Taking that much funding from the military is a pipe-dream. That would not just affect the military directly but the American economy as a whole...
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You are right PUREPHAZED. These are important issues for the country. But, strangely, large numbers of voters here do not vote in presidential elections based on an issue based platform. The McCain campaign knows this well, and the Dems ignore it at their peril.

Successful Republican candidates such as Bush and Reagan didn’t win on issues and policies. They ran (and won) mostly on selling their association (regardless of whether true or not) with notions such as trust, identity, character and, most of all, “values.” In that light, choosing Palin may be a shrewd choice for the McCain campaign. She can be used to promote the values that Republicans traditionally have tried (successfully) to project as exclusively theirs, e.g.: “toughness” (hunts and eats caribous); “individual responsibility and tough love” (daughter is pregnant and will marry the father); “discipline and hard work” (raised 5 kids while managing a successful political career).

None of these values are exclusively Republican or “conservative” of course. But in encapsulating them in the persona of the ideal “small town” conservative mom—pretty, leaning to the religious right, NRA member, son in the military etc.—she taps into some pretty strong republican themes and conservative stereotypes that could well translate into support for the McCain ticket in November despite the fact that the dems should have the upper hand on the issues (as the polls indicate). She also happens to offset McCain's weaknesses in some of these areas (e.g. privileged background--both his and Cindy's, stupendously rich, the wife #1 abandonment, long-time DC insider etc).

There is no way the Obama campaign saw this coming (hell, most members of the McCain campaign, and probably McCain himself didn’t see it coming a month ago), so it will be very interesting to see how they respond.
jrc. you are quite right! the 'values' thing. This is what frightens me most actually. But we will see. It was a shot in the dark and it I believe it will work on the working class.


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