Buying a 100k miles 08 m3

[s85e90]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Wait now one moment....
My previous car was a 325i full AC/Schnitzer and had it for 20 years !
It put 325.000 + km on it ...indeed !And with only Mobil 0W40 !
I'm seeing the 325i still in traffic and we say hello..blinking with our lights !
So at that moment it was for me that BMW cars where almost unbreakable , I drove this car the 5H1T out of that engine,if engine was cold or warmed up always to red line ..and that car is still running....Imagine my friend !
But I saw always ///M cars at my BMW/dealer, yup indeed dream cars , how they sound,how they look ect..."The ultimate driving machine" Indeed but for some....how long ?
And a few years ago my BMW/Dealer organized an ///M weekend with ///M test drivers, the result was that I was sold ,and my choise was... ///M3E92 full with EDC, DCT ect...SSII .
Only after I found this forum and saw the whole Bearing 5H1T !
When thinking and feeling of what an ///M3 costs here in Belgium + taxes and yearly taxes and fuel prices it's realy normal that I have the feeling that i'm rippped by BMW the more that they do nothing , knowing the worldwide problem of the bearings of the S65 , think this is no Kia engine ?
The more that I know that in the last 6 months more than 200 S65's where engines (worldwide) let us guess why ? What do you think my friend ?
So the more I know....the more i'm getting angry that a brand like BMW let us stifle in our problems,and sure they know about it because they replace them knowing this engine is not cheap !
That's why i'm driving BMW and ///M car because I didn't knew about the bearing 5H1T of the S65, and if I knew... it was no BMW for me that's for sure !
So that's my story my friend and that's why i'm angry not to you it's what i'm thinking.. seeing on this forum ...don't think it's very positive when you realy care about our car ?
A question....if you knew about the bearing 5H1T and saw all the failures and blown engines would you still buy it ?

Yes I would still buy it. E46 had issues> major and I still had one and this is my second e9x. So you're upset from what you're reading. Ever hear the expression believe half of what you see and nothing that you hear?

You can't live your life or make decisions on what you've read somewhere. Isn't your car still running fine?

[s85e90]

Moreover if you know now, why not sell our car and get something you feel is more reliable?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Rupes

Yes, I am serious. Tell me, how many people have you met or talked to with bad bearings? My service advisor has seen none. The car meets I go to, I've never heard of anyone with this problem. I'm a member of my local bmwcca and none of them have had the issue. Also, weren't you advocating this was just a North American issue like 2 months ago because you hadn't found any failures in Europe? Apparently your view has changed.

Now, go ask a 335i driver if they've had a HPFP fail. That number is closer to 100%.

How many blown engines have been discovered on these forums - 50? Out of 50,000 cars made that would be low .01%. Even if this number is grossly understated it seems to be an issue that can be detected and repaired most of the time before catastrophic failure if you know what to look for.

As others said, why own this car if you are so certain it's a ticking time bomb? It's a bit irrational to push people away from this car because of the rod bearing issues. I dare you to find another high performance car that doesn't have some type of issue like this.

True , but i've never seen this 50,000 ///M3's on this forum !
Wait and see my friend ...it is still early thinking that almost 70% of the ///M3's are garage queens ,i'm honest and just like mine !
My conclusion is ...this may never happend on a engine like the S65 the more it happens worldwide !
Also agreed about the failures here in Europe, I know only a few in Spain .
My ///M tech is saying it's all about the fuel and fuel quality , keep her on 98RON , my car never had something else than 98RON ?
I'm only angry because i'm seeing this can happen and even when it's not my car....i'm shocked when this can happen on our S65 ,the more BMW knows about it and they do nothing !!!
That's why my reactions my friend...
Are you happy with this situation ???

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by s85e90

Moreover if you know now, why not sell our car and get something you feel is more reliable?

Car market is a mess over here , no one buys V8's anymore because the taxes and yearly driver taxes are rediculous high !
10 years of only taxes and yearly driver taxes cost me... and is equal for "NEW ///M3" in the US !
That's why i'm always saying...."God Bless America"
The F80/82 will sell better because it's only a V6 and so lower ficale HP with lower driver taxes !
Gouverment here is equal to thieves ! Realy hope they are reading this !
And yes my S65 runs perfect and even better now with Mike's BPM-Tune...the question is for how long with the bearing 5H1T ?

[chris719]

There is clearly a problem here. Just because you or your SA hasn't seen it yet doesn't mean it does not exist. People with Vanos problems on S54 got the same kind of responses on forums until it became too big to ignore. You can be in denial about it, but it doesn't change the fact that this engine has rod bearing issues.

[SilentAttack]

Why not post up the 11's-13's that are blowing motors with 7k-15k miles....

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by SilentAttack

Why not post up the 11's-13's that are blowing motors with 7k-15k miles....

Indeed, i've done that allready in other threads..yet other people are saying....it's only mass hysteria or even better there are only a few....Imagine !
It seems more that some people don't like to say it ..yes the bearings are wrong !
Had also PM's with someone who's engine blew, he is saying it's just unbelievable is there not prove enough...or are some of us blind !
Till the day comes that it happens to them also....
For BMW we are already history,because the new proud is on the market !

[kwike92]

I personally wouldnt buy any car with 100k+ miles unless it was a beater commuter.

i just recently Blue booked my car (i dont think KBB is always right but..) its a 09 e92 with 43k miles, its in pristine condition, lightly modded, second owner, garaged etc. and kbb came back with $37k private party... hahaha i just laughed, i have zero intentions of selling , but going back to OPs post, if you really want a e92 m3 and 30k is your budget, mabye save some more and find a nice low mile car, or mabye look into a diff car.

just my $.02

[W///]

So much bullsht in this thread. If your 11-13 blows up, you have a warranty, chill out or sell the car. If your car is out of warranty, either change the bearings or do whatever you think is appropriate, or shut the hell up and sell the car. Simple

It's one thing to understand that these cars might have potential rod bearings issues (key word potential), it's something completely different to bring it up in every single damn thread in every damn subforum, good grief.

For what it's worth, I've got a 2008 E92 M3 with 82.5k miles, and a 1999 E36 M3 with 125k miles (the last 20k miles almost all highway from previous owner). Guess which one has never left ever left me stranded?

[WickedE93]

Originally Posted by W///

So much bullsht in this thread. If your 11-13 blows up, you have a warranty, chill out or sell the car. If your car is out of warranty, either change the bearings or do whatever you think is appropriate, or shut the hell up and sell the car. Simple

It's one thing to understand that these cars might have potential rod bearings issues (key word potential), it's something completely different to bring it up in every single damn thread in every damn subforum, good grief.

For what it's worth, I've got a 2008 E92 M3 with 82.5k miles, and a 1999 E36 M3 with 125k miles (the last 20k miles almost all highway from previous owner). Guess which one has never left ever left me stranded?

I vote E92!

[W///]

Originally Posted by WickedE93

I vote E92!

Correct:


The point of the story is that there's no such thing as a car that requires 0 maintenance or care. The E36, arguably one of the most reliable M cars (well it's kind of a fake M car), still has issues you need to take care of. This time wasn't one of them, slave cylinder went.

[pbonsalb]

I still enjoy my E36M3. Drive it as much or more than my E90M3. Just broke 600 rwhp with it (turbo) and going for 650-700 rwhp next. I'll be driving the comfy but slow car while I wait for the new turbo.

[W///]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

I still enjoy my E36M3. Drive it as much or more than my E90M3. Just broke 600 rwhp with it (turbo) and going for 650-700 rwhp next. I'll be driving the comfy but slow car while I wait for the new turbo.

I do too. IMHO, there's not any other car I'd rather buy at this price range. I can't imagine what kind of a beast it would be with that much horsepower. I actually thought in stock form, it's pretty decent

The itch to sell the E36 in a couple of years and get the M2 is absolutely there. But then there are times where I think, I can drop a fraction of what the price of a new M2 would cost, and turn the E36 into an absolute monster like you did