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      06-15-2009, 02:22 AM   #1
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No longer Unemployed!!

So, I had an interview yesterday at a cutlery company. Got to the 2nd interview and ended up getting chosen out of the 10 people who made it to the 2nd interview. Proud to say it is drastically more than minimum wage. No more unemployment checks for me!! Sorry to all making a post from this, but I am absolutely estatic!! I can now start putting more money towards college and a special project on my civic. (Special K)

Hope everyone is doing well in such a crappy market. Live well E90post
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      06-15-2009, 03:26 AM   #2
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nice!
Now start saving for a bimmer!
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      06-15-2009, 03:32 AM   #3
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Nice! Congrats!
I'm currently employed, but the job doesn't pay shit and I have to stand on my legs for 8 hours... So I'm looking for other jobs as well
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Hope you have a large amount of friends and family. That's who you rely on to sell your cutlery too.
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      06-15-2009, 09:05 AM   #5
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nice, congrats
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was it Cutco?
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thats a good look. congrats on the new job. Now start saving your $$$$$
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Congrats !! What are you going to be doing ?
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Congrats !! What are you going to be doing ?
Client calls into the company. The company sets you up with an appointment with the client. As a 20-60minute demonstration the customer usually ends up buying something.
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Nice! Congrats!
I'm currently employed, but the job doesn't pay shit and I have to stand on my legs for 8 hours... So I'm looking for other jobs as well
The grass always looks greener, my friend.

I sit on my ass for 8 hours...standing for a while sounds good to me. However, standing for 8 hours...I'm sure sitting sounds good to you.
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WooHooo! Congrats!!
lol @ "special K" project.

I too am fortunate and just recently landed a full-time job.
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Congrats! I'm a phlebotomist and make $7.75 an hour LOL..good luck at your new job!
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was it Cutco?
This was the first thing that popped into my head.

Here's a pretty good description, found on Yahoo Answers. This is one of the more positive reviews of the experience that I've found. Of course, I'm not totally sure that this is what he's doing, but it sounds like something similar.


Vector is NOT a scam.

It is however, hard work and you do have to sit through many unpaid hours of "phone time" (i.e. contacting potential customers). "Phone time" is done at your house and you can choose to do as much or as little as you want. This job can be very stressful, but it gives you valuable training in marketing and personal relations skills for the future. (It looks impressive on resumes)

Vector jobs was featured in the Wall Street Journal; it gives a pretty accurate description of the job.

Yes you do have to pay $144 for a sample set, but you can return it when you're done with the job or sell it for profit (it's worth $540). And you make $14 to $18 per appointment depending on where you live (these you have to schedule)

Vector is now a BBB accredited business with a grade of A+.

It was known in the past to have various lawsuits against it, at times in the past people did lose money or receive very low paychecks while working at vector. Now it has cleaned up, you can visit the link for the Better Business Bureau rating and review.

But...
Vector's methods of getting employees is sketchy (but quite smart). They target recent high school graduates or college students, who are usually the poorest and most desperate people on earth. They are also the most sympathetic salesmen to potential customers. (my parents bought $900 worth of books from a college door to door salesman because they felt bad for him. No one in my family has touched those books) Also, Vector is very vague in the job description. Never is the potential employee told that he or she would be selling knives to their friends and family. The routine used during the sales appointments is scripted and targeted to getting the customer to buy the $945 set of knives. The closing part of makes me feel like a jerk, so I often word it differently than said in the manual. But the routine given is marketing genius. And the knives are incredibly good. They were featured on the History channel in Modern Marvels as some of the sharpest things in the world.

The company is pushy though in the beginning, offering various prizes, including $2000 if you can sell $10000 worth of knives in 10 days. They make you feel terrible if you can't sell; even though you get paid if you don't sell, the fact that commissions (starts at 10% then goes up to 50% if your career sales are $30,000) can earn you much more drives you to sell a lot. And the reason they hire anyone is because a lot of kids quit because this job can become very stressful. It's really hard to schedule appointments with friends and family who really don't take you very seriously and are reluctant to buy for the most part (though you may be surprised-I sold a $400 set to my neighbor) I thought about quitting, but decided against it because of the valuable skills and life lessons this job will give me. Oh, and the paycheck keeps me here, which varies depending on how many appointments you schedule and how much you sell. The girl that hired me had a paycheck of $10,000 last summer-she's an incoming sophomore in college, age 19 (of course this is highly rare, she sold just over $22,000 worth of cutlery and kitchenware over the course of a few months). Expect to earn about $3000 this summer (this is the average income of a newbie sales rep)



I would say go to the "interview" (you're guaranteed to get hired) and see if you like it. If not, decline the offer.

Better yet, read the Wall Street Journal article on the job to decide if it's even worth your time going to the "interview" (link is below in the sources).




The way I see it, any job right now is a good one. People that have them should feel fortunate. Not that it matters (except from a tax standpoint), but from what you've said, you're not technically employed, you're self-employed (unless somehow you are not working as an independent contractor).

You just need to be wary as to what you are getting yourself into. Do some research. From what I've read, the company gives you leads at the beginning, but they are never good or plentiful enough to keep you going. Eventually, you'll be getting your own leads. This is of course if you are working for Vector.
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Client calls into the company. The company sets you up with an appointment with the client. As a 20-60minute demonstration the customer usually ends up buying something.

Good luck. Hope you sell a lot.
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      06-15-2009, 05:13 PM   #19
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I went to a group interview with Vector cutlery or one of those cutting knive companies back in like 2005.

I remember the interview was full of BS....they make it seem like this is one of the most desirable jobs in the entire world during the whole interview, and not ONCE hinting at what you ACTUALLY DO during the job. They know not a single rational kid would take such a job so after your personal interview they make it seem like you are one of the lucky ones who gets chosen for a follow up interview but in reality they tell that to every kid. Oh yeah and did I mention the interview was like 5 HOURS LONG??! 4 hours of that was them BS'ing us telling us how their knives are the best in the world, the other hour was the actual interview.

This was in like 2005 or 2006.....maybe not a scam now but they way they trick kids into their pathetic workforce is sad. I would NEVER go door to door selling cutlery (unless I was homeless and needed a job bad)...just an overall horrible job.
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i got a letter in the mail from them and i still don't know how they got my address till this day. They seemed sketchy like it said i had 5 days to call after that the job won't be available anymore and i was one of the lucky few to be chosen. I was the like WTF i already have better paying job and way more professional. but good luck op
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      06-15-2009, 07:26 PM   #21
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Right, selling knives for $1000 in this economy.

Dude work the french fries. Maybe some greasy cheap food comes free.
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Yeah im really sorry to burst your bubble (i really am) but they werent telling the whole truth about the winnowing of potential candidates. Most likely there were quite a lot of people initially interested (what college aged kid would ignore a sign advertising a $20/hour job?) and then they realized what it was and just never responded to the interview requests. So yes, you did make it to the 2nd interview, and yes you did get chosen, but most likely so did the other people who wanted to continue.

The job is pretty much a dud. Everyone starts out thinking they're going to be the one who shows everyone how good they are, theyre gonna go door to door and sell $50,000. Blah blah blah, you know the rest of the depressing story. My brother did the same exact thing, he thought he was going to do amazing. He sold knives to my parents and my aunt, and then hit a dead end. None of the neighbors would do it, none of the friends either.

You will make more money and have a more steady income if you just got a part-time job working at a typical teenager spot like a Supermarket.

If you decide to continue working with Cutco or Vector, I do wish you success. I hope you will be the one who proves that some people really can do it. Good luck, you're gonna need it.
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