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      12-02-2011, 02:58 PM   #89
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Never said you were trying to change my mind. I'm merely pointing out the idiocy of the post on what a 997 Turbo cost.

Oh, ok so I say that I would take the 997 turbo over the GTR and that makes me a Porsche fanboi. Got it. Great logic. Take a look at my signature line and then ask yourself if I'm a fanboi of a particular brand. I've owned/own euro cars, american cars and japanese cars but I'm a Porsche fanboi in your mind huh? Jesus Christ, some of you people on here are borderline fucking retarded.
No need to get angry. Everything will be alright. I promise. It's ok to be a Porsche "fanboi." It may not be exactly $100,000+ but very close. No need to have a coronary and be rushed to the ER.
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Maybe it was a wrong example by Chundae. But u can't really compare new and used. There's no denying a brand new decently optioned 911T will cost $150K (since Porshe nickle and dime everything). A new GT-R is $90K. That is still a $60K difference which is huge (enough for an additional M3). If one were to look for a used 1yr old 911t then it can be said a similarly used GT-R will run you $65K. Bigger savings even, at almost 1/2 price.
Wanna bet? There are many many that won't pay $150K for a brand new 911TT when you can get CPO for $115K, under 15k miles. The warranty is just as long as that of a new GTR and with a much more mod friendly environment. Even if I had the $$$ for a $150K brand new 997TT, I'd opt for a barely used 1 or 2 year old one and save $30-40K.
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No need to get angry. Everything will be alright. I promise. It's ok to be a Porsche "fanboi." It may not be exactly $100,000+ but very close. No need to have a coronary and be rushed to the ER.
If you think $150K is very close to $190K then so be it. I pity your math teacher

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If you think $150K is very close to $190K then so be it. I pity your math teacher

No worries here GT-R fanboi
Sigh you didn't read the entire post. Out the door. Tax, tag, title, delivery fee, etc. I'm actually a Porsche fanboi.
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Sigh you didn't read the entire post. Out the door. Tax, tag, title, delivery fee, etc. I'm actually a Porsche fanboi.
Give me a break --- you missed the target price by 35%+/-; hardly close. Taxes, etc. don't bring the out the door cost anywhere close to $190K. On top of that, last time I checked you have those same taxes, etc on top of the price tag of a $91K GT-R as well.
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Give me a break --- you missed the target price by 35%+/-; hardly close. Taxes, etc. don't bring the out the door cost anywhere close to $190K. On top of that, last time I checked you have those same taxes, etc on top of the price tag of a $91K GT-R as well.
Not 35%. Not even close.
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Not 35%. Not even close.
$190K vs $140K is a 35% delta. Go buy a calculator.
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Did someone forget to take their meds. you sir (Alms211) are angry, calm down. Everyone here has the right to post and have an opinion. GTR or Porsche both great vehicles but yes there is a major price difference for equal performance.
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$190K vs $140K is a 35% delta. Go buy a calculator.
$140k? Where did that come from?
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Did someone forget to take their meds. you sir (Alms211) are angry, calm down. Everyone here has the right to post and have an opinion.
Just stating the facts Junior. Got anything to add?
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$140k? Where did that come from?
really?

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-turbo/
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Did someone forget to take their meds. you sir (Alms211) are angry, calm down. Everyone here has the right to post and have an opinion. GTR or Porsche both great vehicles but yes there is a major price difference for equal performance AND BETTER BUILD QUALITY, FEEL, PRESTIGE, AND INTERIOR QUALITY.
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Lol that's a base price. Put in a similarly equipped turbo as a GTR.
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Lol that's a base price. Put in a similarly equipped turbo as a GTR.
Just admit that you failed miserably on the $190K price you just threw out there

What does a GT-R have that a base 997TT doesn't. .....well, other than the video game buttons/screens
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fixed it for you
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Just admit that you failed miserably on the $190K price you just threw out there

What does a GT-R have that a base 997TT doesn't. .....well, other than the video game buttons/screens
Again refer to my post where I linked autotrader.
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      12-02-2011, 04:26 PM   #105
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Again refer to my post where I linked autotrader.
.....like a dog with a bone. This already been debunked by me and others on here. See posts 74,80,81 and 82.

Nice try.
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.....like a dog with a bone. This already been debunked by me and others on here. See posts 74,80,81 and 82.

Nice try.
Still close to $100,000
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i disagree with ALMS here.

the argument of buying a used turbo vs a brand new gtr doesn't make sense. one could say they would buy a used gtr for 60-70k too. i rather buy a brand new car than a used one everytime if i can afford it. a used car has less/zero warranty, previous owner might abused it, and at the end of the day, it has already been used by someone. pay 100+k for a car and you still feel it was used by someone else already is not a good feeling IMO.


a fully load GTR premium which included all the options such as NAV, premium audio, etc is just 90k. so there is 51k different in price, that is not a small different IMO consider the turbo doesn't handle as well as the gtr and is actually slower than the GTR around the track. only the turbo S can match it. But the turbo S is pushing 170k easily.

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i configured a brand new turbo with equivalent option to a gtr and it came up to 151k. notice i didn't even go crazy with all the nonsense options yet. e.g. i didn't upgrade the seats, there is no rear parking camera, etc.

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Still close to $100,000
I love the GTR, obviously, and I have passed on buying 997 Turbos because of price but you are exaggerating the gap. I had my eye on a 997 Turbo S my dealer had, that was nicely equipped, and it was $165k. I couldn't rationalize the gap when the '12 GTR came out but it wasn't even close to $100k(let alone on a regular Turbo).
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I love the GTR, obviously, and I have passed on buying 997 Turbos because of price but you are exaggerating the gap. I had my eye on a 997 Turbo S my dealer had, that was nicely equipped, and it was $165k. I couldn't rationalize the gap when the '12 GTR came out but it wasn't even close to $100k(let alone on a regular Turbo).
Oh I know. I'm just trolling and pissing off Alms since he got so angry and bothered for no reason.
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      12-02-2011, 11:34 PM   #110
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Oh I know. I'm just trolling and pissing off Alms since he got so angry and bothered for no reason.
....all of a sudden "Oh yeah, I know" and you were "just trolling". Yeah, sure you were Just like on your post (#69) where you emphatically said the delta was $100K.

Just admit you had no fucking idea what you were talking about (as usual) and try to save some level of respect for Christsake. You are a disgrace.

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