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11-14-2011, 03:59 PM | #1 |
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5 months, I still have no clue how my auto start, stop works
sometimes it just shuts off for 30 seconds, then sometimes it doesn't. It even shuts off during cold start from morning. It is very annoying and sometimes I just forgot the press the button.
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11-14-2011, 04:27 PM | #2 |
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I cant figure it out either. I try and show people how it works and I come to a stop and then the engine doesnt shut off and I look like a dumb ass lol. I am just glad that it is turned off by default in the 2011.5s!
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11-14-2011, 05:10 PM | #3 |
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I know just pressing the button is insufficient. Time to open the manual.
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11-14-2011, 05:57 PM | #4 |
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Uh... read the manual. It only shuts off when the engine is at the proper operating temp. Also, the cabin temp also has to reach the set temp. If the engine shuts off and the cabin temp changes, the engine turns back on by itself even if your foot remains on the brake.
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If the car restarts and you weren't expecting it, in my experience usually it's either due to A/C needing to run (car heating up), or pressure on the brake was released. I'll admit the system is still a little tricky to engage consistently -- I think I work at it because the tech geek in me finds the system fascinating, even if it doesn't always work how I think it should.
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11-14-2011, 09:06 PM | #6 |
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I have not yet to this day totally understood the rationale behind this function. I think its basically a gimic. There is no way that constantly turning the engine on and off could be good for it. Also I personally would find it a major annoyance if this were to happen admist stop and go traffic, which would make the savings in gas completely negligable.
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11-15-2011, 02:47 AM | #9 |
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2008's do not have this feature. I believe 2011 is the first year with it.
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Thank god 08's didn't have it, it just sounds like an annoying feature
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I'm always surprised by how much criticism this feature gets. First, it's off by default (at least in the US), so how could it be annoying -- if you don't want to use it, nobody is trying to make you to. Second, it's definitely not a gimic -- it definitely can save quite a bit of gas, depending on the commute; others not so much, but that's the same with any gas saving features. As far as it being hard on the engine or batteries, batteries have made great strides in the last few years, plus BMW I believe uses a slightly more durable starter in cars with this feature. Frankly, I'd rather have increased wear on batteries/starter, than the wear on the engine from the car just sitting and idling at a light.
The system will not normally shut off in stop-n-go traffic. As I mentioned earlier, you have to brake firmly and keep your foot on the brake, so if you brake lightly and then release, it won't activate. It seems like it works best in commutes similar to mine, where you are either driving, or waiting at fairly long stop lights. I don't have enough history for a completely reliable estimate, but I think on my commute, it's probably saving around 25%.
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I was confused by it at first as well because it often didn't shut down. This turned out to be most likely due to air the conditioning being on. The car has a number of conditions which must be met before it will shut down, many of which have been outlined above. Now that we are driving in warm fall weather and the electrical loads are light it almost always shuts off. In summer it is at best a 50:50 bet as to whether it will. Last edited by goldminer; 11-15-2011 at 09:31 AM.. |
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It's kinda nifty, and there's a coding option to make it remember the last setting, so you get the best of both worlds... on if you like it, off if you don't, and you can choose which. (This is really the way they should have shipped it in the first place!)
My only annoyance is that sometimes when it starts back up the cigarette lighter loses power for an instant so the radar detector resets. I assume I can hardwire to a more constant voltage source but it hasn't been that big of a deal yet. I'm also annoyed that I didn't get a break on the gas guzzler tax with it.
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11-15-2011, 02:03 PM | #17 |
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Yeah, I'm describing for a DCT (driven 6MT most of my life until this car, how soon I forget). I'm pretty sure you must be at a complete stop. I have to brake firmly (to a stop) for it to activate.
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I believe in addition to having engine in correct operating temp, your steering also needs to be centered. If it is not centered and the car detects it will not activate. If you are in a turn and brake to a stop, the engine will not stop.
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