C7 Zo6

[Someone?]

Link to some more C7 info=http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoram...150819467.html

Check out the Video at the bottom=http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/13/2...usaolp00000588

[NYCM3ryder]

sorry but i will be trading in my m3 for that beast.. might be the first car that i love almost as much as the gtr r34 spec II. lol. looks badass

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by ibmike

The White is so Bad to the Bone! with the Carbon and greyish black, wow! it would be White or Silver only for me, although red, yellow, hell this car cant look bad.
Im loven this car more and more, and i liked it to begin with.

I'm usually a fan of blue, but Night Race Blue is basically black. Supersonic Blue or the Le Mans Blue from the early C6 days might work well if they become available.

BUT, while I am not typically not a fan of gray or silver cars (especially performance cars) because those colors are so common and I therefore consider then drab/boring/pedestrian (Silverstone II is a notable exception), I saw some pictures of a Cyber Gray C7 Z51 and thought it looked like Lou Ferrigno wearing Armani -- Cyber Gray added a sleek elegance to this car's raw muscle styling and character, creating a perfect blend. I imagine on a Z06 the effect would be even more pronounced, so unless an awesome blue becomes available, Cyber Gray will be my color, mostly thanks to these pics: http://www.corvette7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280128

[Stronghammer]

I noticed no one on the corvette forums is talking about switching to the new M4. BMW has got their work cut out for them.

[sachaja]

I wonder how a S/C e9x would stay with it on the track ? The HP would be close but the torque would be less. The M3 would also be giving up a couple hundred lbs in weight.

[phrozen06]

Originally Posted by sachaja

I wonder how a S/C e9x would stay with it on the track ? The HP would be close but the torque would be less. The M3 would also be giving up a couple hundred lbs in weight.

The e9X also punches a larger hole in the wind putting it at a disadvantage.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by sachaja

I wonder how a S/C e9x would stay with it on the track ? The HP would be close but the torque would be less. The M3 would also be giving up a couple hundred lbs in weight.

Originally Posted by phrozen06

The e9X also punches a larger hole in the wind putting it at a disadvantage.

And has less rubber to put the power down and carry more speed through the turns. I know the S/C crowd often upgrades tires, but I can't imagine any M3 running 285 fronts and 335 rears. Most of posts I've read on these forums by people who are S/Ced and go to the track (not many of them) say that on the track the difference isn't that substantial and can even make the car more of a handful.

[radiantm3]

Originally Posted by jphughan

And has less rubber to put the power down and carry more speed through the turns. I know the S/C crowd often upgrades tires, but I can't imagine any M3 running 285 fronts and 335 rears. Most of posts I've read on these forums by people who are S/Ced and go to the track (not many of them) say that on the track the difference isn't that substantial and can even make the car more of a handful.

I wouldn't be surprised if a base C7 corvette is much faster on the track than a supercharged M3.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by jphughan

And has less rubber to put the power down and carry more speed through the turns. I know the S/C crowd often upgrades tires, but I can't imagine any M3 running 285 fronts and 335 rears. Most of posts I've read on these forums by people who are S/Ced and go to the track (not many of them) say that on the track the difference isn't that substantial and can even make the car more of a handful.

I ran 275/295 on my E90 and thought it was insane. Could barely even spin the rear tires lol.

[checkmate]

All this awesomeness for < $100K. AMERICA!!

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by dmk08

I ran 275/295 on my E90 and thought it was insane. Could barely even spin the rear tires lol.

Did you run that at the track? Mostly I see square setups of 265s or 275s. As appealing as sufficient grip to avoid losing power to wheelspin sounds, I have to wonder if on the track the added weight will create a net loss felt in cornering as well as reduced acceleration and braking in scenarios that aren't traction-limited. I know that's why GM decided that the C7 Z51 would use NARROWER tires than the C6 Grand Sport (though the new Z06 matches the C6 ZR1 tire specs, which are 10mm wider front and rear than the C6 Z06).

[Koldun]

Originally Posted by Rupes

I say this as an avid BMW fan, and not as a troll, but I think I would be embarrassed if I was BMW right now. Seriously, how can one even consider an M4 with this thing as an option? The M3 for practicality maybe, but not the M4.

That, and if the new Toyota is priced reasonably, BMW will be left straight up embarassed with their giant hunk of compromise and cheesy, overwrought design cues.

[Minator]

Originally Posted by Koldun

That, and if the new Toyota is priced reasonably, BMW will be left straight up embarassed with their giant hunk of compromise and cheesy, overwrought design cues.

M division is taking orders from the new "M" group....MARKETING!

I'm sure later this year you will be able to by "M" branded jeans!

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by Minator

M division is taking orders from the new "M" group....MARKETING!

I'm sure later this year you will be able to by "M" branded jeans!

I don't know if it's that bad, because until a few days ago I remember myself and others being pretty excited about the new M3/4. I still wasn't convinced I'd be willing to give up the S65 (and pay for the privilege) in order to get one, but it sounded like it would be an awesome machine in its own right.

But then the C7 Z51 and now the C7 Z06 came along and just completely took the wind out of everyone else's sails -- and will likely soon be taking the wind out of their sales, too! This kind of reminds me of the 2012 Honda Civic, which flopped because that market segment had gotten a whole lot more competitive since the Civic was last redesigned, and Honda ended up killing it off and fast-tracking its mid-cycle refresh for the very next model year -- and now the 2013 Civic is actually a great car for what it is.

The Toyota prospect is interesting, but we don't know much about it yet, and what we've seen thus far is a concept that will undoubtedly be toned down, just like the M3/4 Concept (I really liked the concept DRLs, too. ) But let's not forget that the Toyota we saw will likely be the car that results from the joint venture between Toyota and BMW, so even if it's only the platform that's shared (likely) rather than the entire car like the FR-S/BRZ twins, I think it's going to be a very compelling product.

As a general car enthusiast, I think it's awesome that Toyota is getting back to making cool cars and that so many fun cars of all kinds are coming from so many places these days in general -- but as a BMW enthusiast, it's impossible not to notice that BMW's competition is now a lot stiffer and coming from places they didn't have to compete with before (Mustang, Corvette, maybe Lexus and Toyota now) -- and I'm not sure BMW has such an obvious edge in this new market. The next M3 may manage to retain the crown of best all-around car in terms of being practical and usable on the street but still very competent on the track, but the M4 is going to be a tougher sell in this market, and its higher price point over the M3 won't help matters.

But hey, competition breeds excellence all around, and that's always a win for the customer.

[Groundpilot]

Originally Posted by e-solo

Two M3's or an M5 or a Gt-r. Psh, the list is endless! As long as it's not a Chevy that will begin to fall apart in two years.

I think, it would make sense to wait for at least 2 years and see, how this new car holds up. I am going to be reading some posts on c7 z06 forums new owners feedback. Personally, i dont think GM makes $100k car that will be problematic. We have to wait and see.

[///M Power-Belgium]

To be honest,simple park along this Z06,with the new ///M3-4-5-6(choise is up to you).... it would be ridiculous !
This car is mind blowing ,and that's for sure !
BTW....Congrats for the US & Chevrolet/Corvette with this master piece !

[GIdriver]

Originally Posted by Stronghammer

I noticed no one on the corvette forums is talking about switching to the new M4. BMW has got their work cut out for them.

I think I found my next ride!!! What a sexy beast!!!

[e-solo]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

I think, it would make sense to wait for at least 2 years and see, how this new car holds up. I am going to be reading some posts on c7 z06 forums new owners feedback. Personally, i dont think GM makes $100k car that will be problematic. We have to wait and see.

Its always good to wait a couple years on any newly produced car, that's a wise decision. I'm just so confused at all the hype around this car. The entire energy and feel of a chevy corvette is a put off to me. But judging by this thread Im definitely in the minority.

[Ezio]

i hope GM offers the "corvette engine build experience option" i might be interested in that.

[Bx Tpr]

Any word on pricing? Even rumors? I was just over at the vette forum and they were talking 90k base pricing.

[Prince_of_Persia]

Originally Posted by Bx Tpr

Any word on pricing? Even rumors? I was just over at the vette forum and they were talking 90k base pricing.

Chevy has promised that this car will be less than $100K with every option included.

[Eau Rouge]

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I wouldn't be surprised if a base C7 corvette is much faster on the track than a supercharged M3.

+1

For this Z06, I'll be surprised if it DOESN'T blow away a lot of people when the track numbers start coming in. Nevermind the models of competitor manufacturers that should be duly vanquished. Now, I really need to stop looking at it and reading about it because interest is growing.