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I found these people but have never heard of them. I heard they are making an 18" 3 piece wheels for the track. I race with NASA and they are always there. I think they are a sponsor or something.
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ForgeStar is rated at 1500lbs / corner, Flow Form Casted, and on top everthing is made to order BTW, VMR is low pressue casted, not gravity casted |
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Could you please do me a favor and NOT act like a complete dik? Thanks. The guy that was asking the question earlier...never asked about your Forgestar wheels okay? I see that you couldn't resist the urge to 'slip' that little marketing plug in there huh... Maybe you should ask me why I said that, instead of posting a smartass reply. (just a suggestion) The OWNER of Velocity Motoring (Peter Shieh) told me directly that his wheels were GRAVITY CAST, not Low Pressure Cast. I assume the man knows how his own wheels are built. He even publicly stated that on this very site: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=11 Now, if they have upgraded (to low pressure casting) since I last spoke to him, that's great. I personally like Peter and the business he has built since he started Velocity Motoring several years ago. I respect the man's attention to detail, and his rigorous wheel testing program. (especially for cast wheels) Not every company does that, or even wants to... So maybe your time would be better spent finding out what the truth is first...then make sure everyone is putting out the same information to the general public. Other factory vendors for VMR wheels are still saying the wheels are gravity cast...so that needs to be cleared up to an absolute certainty. (conflicting information) And to be perfectly honest here, there isn't a lot of difference between the two. (strength wise) Flow formed casting on the other hand is a different story... In the future, I would prefer if you would just ask me a question, if there is something you don't understand about one of my posts. Thanks. BTW: This forum's software has a spell check plug-in...you might want to use it sometime.
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No, it's not like that man.
I only said all that because he quoted me, then changed the text of my post to make it a part of his sales pitch. I don't appreciate that one bit. In fact, I thought it was in very poor taste. He also added that 'zinger' with the last line of his post. He was basically saying I didn't have a clue how VRM wheels are made. That also ticked me off. He should have respectfully stated that he believed the wheels are now made using a different cast manufacturing technique. There was no need to be an ass about it... Now if he would have just quoted the person who asked that original question (and left me out of it altogether)...then I wouldn't have posted that earlier response. But he just had to drag me into it...
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I was with Peter during a factory tour back in April and was very impressed on the manufacturing processes used in their lineup, particularly to quality control. While a little on the heavier side (25-28lbs) when comparing to the Volk/Advan/BBS series, the VMRs very well made, strong and a great value for the money. As for the list - I agree with Zoli007 & Lemans_Blue_M, RAC really needs to be on there as well.
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In all the years that I`ve been working in this industry I've never got too interested in cast wheels manufacturers, yet I`m shocked to find out that VMR Wheels uses gravity casting. For those that do not know the difference, Tirerack has a very good brief description: GRAVITY CASTING Gravity casting is the most basic process of pouring molten aluminum into a mold utilizing the earth's gravity to fill the mold. Gravity casting offers a very reasonable production cost and is a good method for casting designs that are more visually oriented or when reducing weight is not a primary concern. Since the process relies on gravity to fill the mold, the aluminum is not as densely packed in the mold as some other casting processes. Often gravity cast wheels will have a higher weight to achieve the required strength. LOW PRESSURE CASTING Low pressure casting uses positive pressure to move the molten aluminum into the mold quicker and achieve a finished product that has improved mechanical properties (more dense) over a gravity cast wheel. Low-pressure casting has a slightly higher production cost over gravity casting. Low pressure is the most common process approved for aluminum wheels sold to the O.E.M. market. Low-pressure cast wheels offer a good value for the aftermarket as well. Some companies offer wheels that are produced under a higher pressure in special casting equipment to create a wheel that is lighter and stronger than a wheel produced in low pressure. Once again in the quest for lighter weight, there is a higher cost associated with the process. With the exception of the significantly higher tooling cost for low-pressure casting there is really not much difference in cost per unit over gravity casting but the advantages of it are very clear. With LPC you`ll get a slightly lighter but much stronger wheel which is after all the ultimate goal. Gravity casting are inferior to low-pressure cast wheels. You just can't claim OEM quality if you don't use OEM quality standards & manufacturing processes. They are great value for the money, as Tom says, but in my opinion there are better options out there and better quality as well. As far as RAC I don't consider them a manufacturer, more like a distributor, since Taneisya and Champion do basically everything for them, however, their product quality is top-notch. |
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