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12-15-2011, 05:37 PM | #23 |
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Or you would, if the majority of leases in the FS forum weren't listed by individuals who paid MSRP+ tax+extended warranty for their AW/FR socal specials and then expect you to write them a check for their full downpayment amount.
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I tried to buy my last car as was miserable. I realized after 4 years I did not want it at all yet I was making payments still (financed it over 4 years). Then I had to sell it and exactly break even with the amount left on the loan. I had to buy an extended warranty after 3 years because I did not want to be out of warranty. Then had to do more maintence out of pocket and all for a relatively old car.
To me its just much more convenient to lease and you get a much cheaper monthly payment to boot. The ONLY way buying a car in general is better than leasing a car is if you plan to keep the car for probably 7 plus years or more. If you are buying outright it is always the best option but if you are looking at financing v. leasing than the only advantage of buying is realized once the car is paid off and you have no monthly payments, something that never happens in a lease. I am glad I leased the m3 as I already am getting a bit bored and can't wait for the m5. Have 2 more years left so not like I do not have awhile to go but unless you have tons of money to buy/lease multiple cars, than leasing makes sense for a lot of people |
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12-15-2011, 07:34 PM | #28 |
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Well usually its ridiculously expensive to lease used and almost nobody does it so besides some random people this topic is about leasing v. buying NEW. Yes anything is possible in the world but stay on topic
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There are no right or wrong answers to this question. Forget debating the financial implications of both. People who can lease and buy these cars do so for the performance and the look of the car. If we were concerned with financial responsibility we would be driving used Corollas. We don't need an M3, we want it.
When making your decision focus on what you want now and in the future. Assuming the car is within financial reach. Ask yourself these questions: How often will you want a new car? If you buy a 2012 M3 now will you keep it a least seven years? Will you have car envy when the first F80 M3 appears on this site? Chronic leasing is costly. However buying new and keeping the car for less than seven years is costly especially if it takes longer than four years to pay the car off. With a new model right around the corner it may make sense to lease given the unknown financial impact it could have on the E92 M3 resale. However, this is the last known V8. It's a wonderful car and worth buying. Good Luck. It's a tough decision. |
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You might want to make a call to the dealership that I'm installing software for this week... The used car lease business is HOT right now.
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I haven't seen this mentioned here, so I'll jump in and say that there is also the "worry" factor - how much will you worry about going over on miles, dents in the car, or other damage that you'll be charged for when you return the lease. I am guessing this is a real concern for many M3 drivers because 5 minutes on this site will reveal a string of posts about people upset from a door ding, windshield chip, etc.
For me, the worry factor when I leased a 2000 323Ci got me to the point where I never wanted to do it again. Every time a ding happened I got out the silly tool to check if I was going to be charged for it. I worried too much about driving it, and I should have just enjoyed it more. I also found myself at odds - wanting to drive it a ton, but also knowing I'd get nailed for extra miles. In that way, I found the lease limiting - it limited my joy. I'm not saying this is the case for you, or anyone else, but it's something to consider. How many people debate back and forth in the morning as to whether they should take the M3 or not because they are near or beyond their mileage limit? I buy my cars now...gently used. I let the first owner take the first-year depreciation hit, then buy a nice, low-miles car. And with the residual value left on my previous car I can put down a nice big down payment and qualify for great rates (currently 2.25% on a 2010 M3 vert, bought used this past summer). That's a deal I can live with, and enjoy. |
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I like to lease, l like to gamble...I always bet that the 'person' guessing the 'residual value' is wrong.... In socal this has paid off each time where there is 'equity' left at end of term and the dealer has 'cut me a check/credit'.
But like posts above say, to get maximum advantage of a lease be able to write some off through business...it helps quite a bit. |
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I do agree though that you can't compare the two, between leasing used vs. new. Dave
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Had I waited longer, my E90 wouldn't have been around. So, small price to pay for exactly what I wanted. That's what I tell myself anyways.
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Pros of Leasing: Write off the lease payment via miles and usage of the car if self-employed. Likes new cars every 3 years Can't afford to pay cash or have nothing to put down to reduce monthly payments. Cons of Leasing: It'll cost you more to own if you decide to buy it at the end of the lease. Can't think of anything else.
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Now, for my current car, I leased it with the full knowledge that if I really like the car, I can pay it off at any point during the lease or just turn it in at the end of the lease w/o hassle. |
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