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It is really awesome to do, and this car is VERY forgiving and easy to drive at the track. IMO this is the perfect "beginners" car as I have learned and am finding it meditative (in the moment) to do open lapping in this ride. What I really think is that BMW should throw in a track day if you buy the M3 because for me it's at the track, and the subsequent ride home, where I truly and completely love the all around nature of this bad boy and am in awe of this car every drive home from the track. I'm not trying to set lap records, it's all about fun and in that essence "to each his own". But seriously, at least try it once, you only go around this rock once and no one makes it out alive anyway
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I'm a little surprised that no one has mentioned concerns with insurance. This is probably my biggest fear with tracking a car.
I'm getting my E92 in September and have been wondering what the deal is with insurance on the track. Everywhere I read I get a different answer. It's a frightening prospect to total a $70K car and possibly not be reimbursed for your loss. I know you can buy track day insurance but it looks like it's a few hundred dollars a day. Couple that with entry fees of $150 plus tires, gas, etc. and it's getting pretty darn pricey for a fun day. Anyone have direct experience with their insurance and the track? |
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The way I look at it is though... if you stay within your limits, you shouldn't total the car If you can drive it, you can always drive it off the track and then... yeah...
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06-23-2011, 07:24 PM | #73 |
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I was doing a shakedown test on my racecar at an hpde event just last night and some guy went off track at 80mph in his viper and rock chipped up the whole passenger side. Dude was about 50 years old with no previous performance driving experience, was driving a 500hp brute of a car and just had a slight lapse in concentration. He was lucky he didn't roll it.
Now this is a fairly rare occurrence, and honestly I can't think of a worse car to do your first HPDE in than a viper but driving on a track is always dangerous to both your safety and your vehicle. Its understandable this may frighten people.
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Race cars, karts, and rental cars are mistresses you can excitedly plow through at the track. Last edited by smmmurf; 06-23-2011 at 07:32 PM.. |
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And two, the track is significantly more dangerous than the street. Without naming specific events, one or two out of 80 cars that sign up for HPDE 1/2 are generally totalled each time there is a weekend event at Infineon Raceway. If you include Group 3 and 4, there are usually about 3-4 totals out of maybe 200 cars. The odds are lower at Thunderhill, Willow Springs, or Buttonwillow, but still. Much riskier than your normal drive down the boulevard. Lol. Last edited by smmmurf; 06-23-2011 at 07:40 PM.. |
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I don't know how much it is back East, but to rent Autoclub Speedway or Laguna Seca is serious $$$. Buttonwillow and WillowSprings is less, but still not cheap, but there are organizations that can do them for less than $300/day.
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I don't know if I'd go that far but definitely need to keep in mind that tires blow, people lay down oil, "that guy" gives you a point-by and then hits you in the braking zone. Most people I'm sure you'll agree are very very far from their car's limits and very very far from understanding how to recover from exceeding them. Then again people like us are probably less likely to crash in a race than most people are at their first HPDE...
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Driving on the track does require a much higher level of concentration and physical action as well as carrying a significantly higher chance of an major accidents. BTW I had a brake line burst on my racecar last night and lost nearly all braking capability at 130mph, it was dark (10pm) as well luckily I was able to get it slowed down enough while still keeping it on track.
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I took a Dodge Skip Barber driving school a few years ago and then went back the next year and took it again. I then went to the racing school (the open wheel cars) and took the 3 day racing school several times the 2 day advanced racing school, and then started attendin car control clinics, laping days, etc, every year,
In 2008 Lime Rock established the Driver's Club and I decided to join. It is the best track experience I have had. The driving coaches are top notch and on club track days there are usually only a handful of cars on the track. Most of the members have dedicated track cars. Mostly Porsches and Spec Miatas but there are also some Ferraris and a BMW M3 GTS. BMW is the "official" car of Lime Rock and the Club has an M3 coupe that is used for training and to give guests "Hot Laps" CA
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Did the rates go up or down or stay same/similar?
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I would love to track my car, but my wife won't let me!
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My dad would look at my tires and be like what the eff have you been doing? And the brakes? Doesn't it have an affect on your warranty as well??
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Your dad, eh?
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