BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Cosmetic/Visual (Exterior + Interior) Modifications
 
EXXEL Distributions
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-08-2011, 09:19 PM   #45
MCarRacr07
Second Lieutenant
United_States
85
Rep
241
Posts

Drives: a couple still in the garage
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by midlifecrisis View Post
Every time I come up on a Audi, Volvo, or Merc with their rear fog lights on, all I can think is - what a #%&*@!^ idiot! Most of the time, they're blazing away even though there's not a hint of fog. It always looks like the car is possessed by electrical gremlins! They are truly one of the most misused features on most European cars in the U.S., and I'm happy that BMW doesn't deliver their cars with them.

Please, please, please - resist the temptation!

Rant over. Sorry if I offended those who think this is cool. Just my opinion, but I'm an old fart and everyone ignores me anyway.
At least it is a functional item.....not like some of the M3's tooling around with tow hooks on them..
S
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2011, 12:04 PM   #46
mrkbbd
Lieutenant
United_States
10
Rep
483
Posts

Drives: e92 M3 DCT
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: VA/FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 Mercedes E63AMG  [0.00]
2009 M3  [0.00]
On RealOEM.com, the headlight switch has the same part # for Euro and US spec M3s and all yrs appear to be the same as well...am I looking at the wrong part?
__________________
2006 e53 X5 4.8is (sold)
2009 e92 M3
2008 E63 AMG
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2011, 12:51 PM   #47
BimmerM
Lieutenant
BimmerM's Avatar
United_States
98
Rep
525
Posts

Drives: '21 F95 X5 M C, '11.5 E92 M3 C
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NYC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2013 BMW X5 M  [0.00]
2011 BMW M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrkbbd View Post
On RealOEM.com, the headlight switch has the same part # for Euro and US spec M3s and all yrs appear to be the same as well...am I looking at the wrong part?
I've seen this on ECSTuning however it also has the button for front fog lights (which the M3 doesn't have). I guess you can always swap the button with your OEM switch.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-M3-...tch/ES1899562/

Either way, why spend $120 when you can do this for free.

I showed a co-worker and he did it on his 2008 sedan with lego blocks (that he took from his daughter, LOL). Works great and was free.
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2011, 07:00 PM   #48
BobsM3Coupe
Brigadier General
BobsM3Coupe's Avatar
United_States
1550
Rep
4,024
Posts

Drives: X5MC
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: California

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyRoaster View Post
With your laptop?
I believe with the proper software, you can activate the brake force display lights. These are the same bulbs used as the rear fog lights.

Last edited by BobsM3Coupe; 03-10-2011 at 02:04 AM..
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2011, 03:48 AM   #49
BPMSport
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
BPMSport's Avatar
United_States
3423
Rep
7,488
Posts


Drives: Harrop M3 / F10 M5 / F82 M4
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (9)

Garage List
2000 BMW M5  [0.00]
1990 BMW 735i Turbo  [0.00]
2008 BMW M3  [7.50]
2015 BMW M3  [0.00]
2015 BMW M5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyRoaster View Post
With your laptop?
Yeah, I can activate pretty much any light on the whole car with it.

Along with other stuff like fans, valves, etc..

These cars are very electronically sophisticated
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2011, 07:47 AM   #50
cmk227
Major
cmk227's Avatar
United_States
120
Rep
1,379
Posts

Drives: Goal: Another ///M
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Garland, TX & Northern England

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike@Powerchip View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyRoaster View Post
With your laptop?
Yeah, I can activate pretty much any light on the whole car with it.

Along with other stuff like fans, valves, etc..

These cars are very electronically sophisticated
More info....
__________________

14 Lexus GX460 & 14 Lexus ES300H
14 BMW 528d Touring Estate - UK
Previous M's: 11 BMW M3 JZB ZCP 6MT, 02 BMW M3 Conv 6MT & 02 BMW M3 Coupe 6MT
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2011, 10:46 AM   #51
jeffnnj
Second Lieutenant
jeffnnj's Avatar
United_States
15
Rep
281
Posts

Drives: 2011 E93 M3
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NNJ, USA

iTrader: (0)

Looks like a really easy DIY but since I am totally mechanically inept and work at a BMW dealer, I had one of my mechanics do it for me. It took him all of about 10 minutes and it works flawlessly. Not sure of the brightness because I only saw it during daylight but I'm sure that it's more then enough. I think that this is most helpful when being tailgated, driving in front of someone who has their high beams on or in fog. Otherwise, it will remain off. Much thanks to the OP for the excellent suggestion.
__________________
2011 M3 Convertible, Alpine White/Black Novillo Leather
2008 550i Sport, Platinum Gray/Natural Brown (retired)
2006 550i Silver Gray/Black (retired)
2002 M3 Convertible Titanium Silver/Black(retired)
1998 328i Convertible Arctic Silver/Gray(retired)
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2011, 12:55 PM   #52
Alex1911
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
210
Posts

Drives: M3 Sedan 2011
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: FL

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
I've never understood why rear fogs are not mandated here like elsewhere.
Because people are stupid... Look at all the clowns who drive in a storm with the hazards flashing away (which is illegal in my State).
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2011, 02:22 PM   #53
OC3
Havin' a blast!
OC3's Avatar
United_States
125
Rep
4,847
Posts

Drives: 2013 M3 E92 Jerez Blk DCT ZCP
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BimmerM View Post
There's already a few threads on this topic already however I just wanted to share my own experience with the install.

On my 2011.5 M3 there's no need for the little lego block trick as the button extension is already in there. So technically this mod is FREE.

All you have to do is take the button out (I have my own DIY but there's a few good DIY's on M3Post already), then trim off the four little tabs that is preventing it from being functional. Once trimmed the button will work and function fine. The only thing is the button will not have the rear fog light icon as in the euro switch. I prefer it this way so the car still appears stock US spec.

Once done you will have working rear fog lights to help illuminate behind you as you back up or whereever your imagination takes you.

03/08/2011: Updated with Links
Here's my DIY specifically done on my 2011:
http://www.fastm.com/e92m3/rearfog.html

Here's links to other DIY's that was provided a few posts down by zhangzeyuandss:
Nice DIY. Does anybody have photo(s) of E90 tailights lit up that had this done? I don't think the narrow white backup lamps light up on E90's.
__________________
BRP 1:56 | CVR 2:01 | ACS 1:53 | WSIR 1:34
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2011, 06:26 PM   #54
mrkbbd
Lieutenant
United_States
10
Rep
483
Posts

Drives: e92 M3 DCT
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: VA/FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 Mercedes E63AMG  [0.00]
2009 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex1911 View Post
Because people are stupid... Look at all the clowns who drive in a storm with the hazards flashing away (which is illegal in my State).
Alex, I don't think it's illegal or stupid in FLA. When there is a heavy rain and you slow down to the point that you would be impeding the flow of traffic, you are obligated to turn on your hazards. Also, it makes sense to light up the car so others can see you when there is almost no visibility.
__________________
2006 e53 X5 4.8is (sold)
2009 e92 M3
2008 E63 AMG
Appreciate 0
      03-10-2011, 06:57 PM   #55
stevenross
General
stevenross's Avatar
37
Rep
431
Posts

Drives: a ride
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: NYC - Bayside

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011 BMW M3  [10.00]
2008 BMW X5 3.Slow  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrkbbd View Post
Alex, I don't think it's illegal or stupid in FLA. When there is a heavy rain and you slow down to the point that you would be impeding the flow of traffic, you are obligated to turn on your hazards. Also, it makes sense to light up the car so others can see you when there is almost no visibility.
i think i am that clown.. i do that crap all of the time.. heavy rain.. hazards.. anyone else?
__________________
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454038
'11 E93 M3 Cab, - Mineral White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather,P2, Cold, Convenience, 19s, EDC, DCT, Prem Sound, Sat Rad - sold
'08 997 C2 Coupe / Carerra White & Sea Blue - Returned
'08 X5 3.Slow / Saphire Black Metallic on Black - Retained
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2011, 01:39 AM   #56
BPMSport
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
BPMSport's Avatar
United_States
3423
Rep
7,488
Posts


Drives: Harrop M3 / F10 M5 / F82 M4
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (9)

Garage List
2000 BMW M5  [0.00]
1990 BMW 735i Turbo  [0.00]
2008 BMW M3  [7.50]
2015 BMW M3  [0.00]
2015 BMW M5  [0.00]
Just did the mod. Actually made both buttons work. I used electrical connectors, one facing down and the other one diagionally. It took a while to trim everything to the correct length. It was worth it, it has the press and feel of the factory buttons.

FYI, enabling the front fog light switch on the E90/E92 m3 doesn't do anything. I guess its because we don't have fogs. I thought it might turn the indicator on though.

Thanks for posting this DIY!!
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2011, 08:00 AM   #57
BimmerM
Lieutenant
BimmerM's Avatar
United_States
98
Rep
525
Posts

Drives: '21 F95 X5 M C, '11.5 E92 M3 C
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NYC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2013 BMW X5 M  [0.00]
2011 BMW M3  [0.00]
>Mike@Powerchip: Cool, glad you found the DIY useful. Beats using the laptop. LOL. I've been following those coding threads also the last few months, very interesting stuff.
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2011, 08:34 AM   #58
Budge
Professional Trophy Husband
25
Rep
150
Posts

Drives: '09 M3 Sedan DCT
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (0)

FYI, I did this mod using legos, and it worked. But the 3-dimple piece on the bottom lego sort of straddles the two contacts on the control board. At least in my car, this made the rear fog button functional, but there was no feedback when you pressed it.

I read on another DIY that someone used a pen cap glued to a base of stacked credit card pieces. I decided to give this a try. HUGE difference! The flat bottom of the credit card pieces presses evenly on the top of the two contacts, as it should. So you get that punch-in-bounce-back feedback that all the other buttons in your car have.

Maybe someone could try gluing a piece of credit card to the bottom of the lego pieces to get the same effect.
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2011, 10:11 AM   #59
Looper
BEAST
United_States
2
Rep
152
Posts

Drives: 2011 M3 E92
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Fabulous Tampa Florida

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Budge View Post
FYI, I did this mod using legos, and it worked. But the 3-dimple piece on the bottom lego sort of straddles the two contacts on the control board. At least in my car, this made the rear fog button functional, but there was no feedback when you pressed it.

I read on another DIY that someone used a pen cap glued to a base of stacked credit card pieces. I decided to give this a try. HUGE difference! The flat bottom of the credit card pieces presses evenly on the top of the two contacts, as it should. So you get that punch-in-bounce-back feedback that all the other buttons in your car have.

Maybe someone could try gluing a piece of credit card to the bottom of the lego pieces to get the same effect.
If someone happens upon this thread knowing nothing about these cars their going to be horrified or be LTAO....... Were gluing pen caps, chunks of plastic and legos to our cars in an attempt to modify it, to funny! I guess I was lucky that mine came with the required parts.
Appreciate 0
      03-11-2011, 12:36 PM   #60
Biggerunn
Enlisted Member
1
Rep
39
Posts

Drives: 2011 M3 Coupe
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: San Jose, CA

iTrader: (0)

So this discussion has raised a couple of questions in my mind. The German switch that is shown in some of the threads has icons on both the upper and lower right-hand push switches. This would indicate both are functional. But I don't think the German M3 has front fogs either. So does only the lower switch function on the German M3? Is the German switch that is shown in the threads the one that is used on the 328/335, and that's why it's got icons on both switches? I went on the German BMW site, and they don't seem to have as many gallery pictures as we get in the States, but it looks like the German M3 uses the same iconless switch as we've got. The interior view they show has the steering wheel mostly in the way, so it's tough to reach too many conclusions, though. Of course, more pictures may be there, but my German isn't real sharp these days.

Anyone know exactly how the German model is configured? Any icons on the switches? Are both upper and lower functional, but only the lower one turns something on? Or does the German M3 come with both front and rear fogs?
Appreciate 0
      04-13-2011, 10:26 PM   #61
Sean91
First Lieutenant
Sean91's Avatar
United_States
61
Rep
357
Posts

Drives: 2011 M3 E92 AW ZCP
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Nj

iTrader: (2)

i just did this mod yesterday took me 20 mins really easy to do great diy instructions!
Appreciate 0
      04-14-2011, 07:40 AM   #62
Xcelrrate
Driver
Xcelrrate's Avatar
United_States
41
Rep
372
Posts

Drives: E90 ///M3
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2008 BMW E90 M3  [10.00]
Just did the mod, working great.
__________________

'08 Jerez Black E90 ///M3
Pics of my Ride
Appreciate 0
      08-22-2012, 09:17 AM   #63
dman229
2008 e92 M3 MT
0
Rep
5
Posts

Drives: 2008 e92 M3 MT
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

Not working.

BTW great write up. I did the mod on my '08 m3 MT It was very easy but It does not do anything. the dash indicator does not come on either. Anyone have any ideas ?
Appreciate 0
      08-22-2012, 03:52 PM   #64
SGMe90
tuningtechfs tuned
SGMe90's Avatar
United_States
19
Rep
292
Posts

Drives: 08 SGM e90 M3, 6mt
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: MD

iTrader: (4)

I did this with a measured piece of pen and placed a nickel, works perfect. Thanks for the info
__________________
Drives: 08 M3, third pedal baby
previous: 07 e93 335i (jb4)
Appreciate 0
      08-22-2012, 09:35 PM   #65
Rich_Jenkins
Riff Raff Refugee
Rich_Jenkins's Avatar
United_States
23
Rep
626
Posts

Drives: Ram 1500
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sarasota FL

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dman229 View Post
BTW great write up. I did the mod on my '08 m3 MT It was very easy but It does not do anything. the dash indicator does not come on either. Anyone have any ideas ?
Hm.

I'd be checking the fuse panel. I seem to recall someone saying their fuse was actually removed. Sorry cant help much further, but might be a thread to follow...?
__________________
Character does count. For too long we have gotten by in a society that says the only thing right is to get by and the only thing wrong is to get caught. Character is doing what's right when nobody is looking... " --J. C. Watts
Appreciate 0
      08-23-2012, 01:48 AM   #66
bsiciliano
Captain
United_States
51
Rep
698
Posts

Drives: 2011 M3 Convertible
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (4)

Just an FYI, if you do both buttons, and have the headlights on auto, by pushing non-fog light button, it will turn on the head lights.
__________________
2011 E93 - Space Gray - 6MT/Silver Novillo/
OE Tuning/Gruppe M Intake/ACS Springs/Vorsteiner CF Type I Rear Diffuser/Textured Matte Black Custom Powdercoated OEM 359s/Painted Reflectors/Matte Grille, Hood Vents and Side Markers/Arqray Race Exhaust/MS Pulley
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:10 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST