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      06-14-2011, 04:41 PM   #133
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But my car has never been on a track, and never will, This is my daily driver
So I don't want to go crazy and get huge tires
I've tried the 255/35f 275/35r rear on my 19s and they are a good balance between comfort and handling
I only went with the apex cuz they are light, and very close to the CSL design, Which I love.

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Don't get the 10" front wheel then. Get the 18x9.5" et22 wheel and a 265/35/18 instead. You can run an 18x10" or 18x10.5" rear and a 285/35/18 with great ease.
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Don't get the 10" front wheel then. Get the 18x9.5" et22 wheel and a 265/35/18 instead. You can run an 18x10" or 18x10.5" rear and a 285/35/18 with great ease.
I got 9.5" for front
And 10" for rear
Id prefer not going to 265/285 think that's overkill for a street car
And I know with a 265 I'll lose some steering feel
I'm leaning towards 255/35- 275/35, or 255/40-275-40
I want comfort as well
My existing 255/35-275/35 on 19 gives me more than enough grip, so don't want to go wider
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I got 9.5" for front
And 10" for rear
Id prefer not going to 265/285 think that's overkill for a street car
And I know with a 265 I'll lose some steering feel
I'm leaning towards 255/35- 275/35, or 255/40-275-40
I want comfort as well
My existing 255/35-275/35 on 19 gives me more than enough grip, so don't want to go wider
get 9.5s and put 265/35 front and 265/40 rear. trust me.

u'll lose more steering feel by putting on a crappy tire (e.g. hankook v12) than increasing size by 10mm...
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      06-14-2011, 07:10 PM   #136
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get 9.5s and put 265/35 front and 265/40 rear. trust me....
you know i would not sleep at night if i had different profiles on my car
serious

it's either 255/35 and 275/35, or 255/40 and 275/40
don't be giving me this mixed crap

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'll lose more steering feel by putting on a crappy tire (e.g. hankook v12) than increasing size by 10mm...
been there done that
the V12s suck monkey balls
had them for like a week and hated them so much i was considering putting on my winter wheels till i got rid of them
got PS2 and felt at ease again

i just don't like the look of my existing 255/35 on 9.5" on 19s
the 275 on 10" looks just right
the 255 looks a little stretched
but maybe 265/35 and 275/35?
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      06-14-2011, 07:57 PM   #137
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you know i would not sleep at night if i had different profiles on my car
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it's either 255/35 and 275/35, or 255/40 and 275/40
don't be giving me this mixed crap



been there done that
the V12s suck monkey balls
had them for like a week and hated them so much i was considering putting on my winter wheels till i got rid of them
got PS2 and felt at ease again

i just don't like the look of my existing 255/35 on 9.5" on 19s
the 275 on 10" looks just right
the 255 looks a little stretched
but maybe 265/35 and 275/35?
the 265/35 is almost the same height as 245/40....which is stock. and the 265/40 is stock.

275/35 will be shorter than stock 265/40
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do they take the standard OEM BMW centercaps?
how do i get the BMW logo on there if they don't?
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do they take the standard OEM BMW centercaps?
how do i get the BMW logo on there if they don't?
They take BMW centercaps.
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The APEX center caps replicate the OEM BMW center cap fitment. So the factory ones just click right in.
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I am ready to order these wheels. However--

After looking at all the R-compound tires available, I'm not finding any that offer both 275/35R18 and 295/35R18. I'm willing to consider square setup, but do prefer staggered if possible. Does anyone have any info on this? (I already have Yoko Advan Neova AD08s on my ZCP rims; I'm not needing street performance tires, looking at track tires.)
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d you just have to deal with a bit of tramlining on some freeways..
what do you mean?

I plan on doing 275 35 AD08 or PSS sq set up with 18x10s, but I don't feel like swapping my track wheels with my OEM 19s for daily driving...I'm going to be tracking 5 times this summer, and prly every month...too much work to keep swapping tires

Are you saying I can't do a 275 sq setup comfortably on the street?

Should I then run 265 35 front, 295 35 rear? (if I'm not going to do sq, then I'd like to run a wide rear)

I had 245 40 and 285 35 18 on my OEM 18s now for the track and I do like the feel of it. I would like a larger front for sure.
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I am ready to order these wheels. However--

After looking at all the R-compound tires available, I'm not finding any that offer both 275/35R18 and 295/35R18. I'm willing to consider square setup, but do prefer staggered if possible. Does anyone have any info on this? (I already have Yoko Advan Neova AD08s on my ZCP rims; I'm not needing street performance tires, looking at track tires.)
i just went through this dilemma as well... after many searches, and speaking to Eddy at APEX (very friendly and helpful!), i decided to go with a 18x9.5 and 18x10.5 with 265/35 and 285/30. this combo is quite common and widely used by track and race guys.

yes tire choices are limited... i am going with the BFG R1's but the R888's were another option (they even have a 295/30 R888 rear which wouldve worked nicely), but i decided to go with the R1's. there are othe r comps choices in this size from yoko, michelin cups, hoosier R6 (i think?), but the R1's were my fav choice for bang for the buck and grip levels.

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what do you mean?

I plan on doing 275 35 AD08 or PSS sq set up with 18x10s, but I don't feel like swapping my track wheels with my OEM 19s for daily driving...I'm going to be tracking 5 times this summer, and prly every month...too much work to keep swapping tires

Are you saying I can't do a 275 sq setup comfortably on the street?

Should I then run 265 35 front, 295 35 rear? (if I'm not going to do sq, then I'd like to run a wide rear)

I had 245 40 and 285 35 18 on my OEM 18s now for the track and I do like the feel of it. I would like a larger front for sure.
I have a set of PSS in 275/35-18 on the Apex 18x10 wheels. I recently did my first track weekend with them, and have used them on the street for about a month. I do not find the tramlining excessive at all. It is noticeably more than with the OE setup, but not bad. Of course, it will vary with the specific tire also. Having experience with the ADO8, I think you will find the PSS a much more pleasant tire for dual use. It is not as good on track, but still very good. The PSS is quieter, better ride, better in the rain.
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I have a set of PSS in 275/35-18 on the Apex 18x10 wheels. I recently did my first track weekend with them, and have used them on the street for about a month. I do not find the tramlining excessive at all. It is noticeably more than with the OE setup, but not bad. Of course, it will vary with the specific tire also. Having experience with the ADO8, I think you will find the PSS a much more pleasant tire for dual use. It is not as good on track, but still very good. The PSS is quieter, better ride, better in the rain.
Well better is always nice but quieter or not isn't much of an issue, but we rarely have rain in SoCal

Could someone please explain what you mean by "excessive tramlining"?
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Could someone please explain what you mean by "excessive tramlining"?
Tramlining is the tendency of the tire to follow irregularities in the pavement, rather than the steering course. The tire width, tread pattern, and alignment settings all influence it. It results in a nervous steering feel.
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Tramlining is the tendency of the tire to follow irregularities in the pavement, rather than the steering course. The tire width, tread pattern, and alignment settings all influence it. It results in a nervous steering feel.
Right.

But why would having a sq set up increase this?

Now I'm debating between 275 35 sq or 265 35 front 295 35 rear....

I track about 10 times a year or so I'd say.. not an advanced/super quick driver by any means. I daily about 200mi a week
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Right.

But why would having a sq set up increase this?
No, it has more to do with tire construction and suspension settings, not front-to-back relative sizes. Put on a set of bias-ply tires and you'll experience a whole other dimension crossing uneven pavement.

Tires with stiffer sidewalls, like most R-coumpounds, will tend to be worse at it than most street compound tires.
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Right.

But why would having a sq set up increase this?

Now I'm debating between 275 35 sq or 265 35 front 295 35 rear....

I track about 10 times a year or so I'd say.. not an advanced/super quick driver by any means. I daily about 200mi a week
Nothing to do with the square setup. The 275 front tire is 30mm wider than OE, mine just happens to be set up with 275 all around.
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Nothing to do with the square setup. The 275 front tire is 30mm wider than OE, mine just happens to be set up with 275 all around.
Would it be advisable for me to do 18x10 sq with 275 35 or 18x10 265 35 front 18x10.5 295 35 rear since I'll be daily driving it, and I'm far from a pro so I don't need the best track set up, just the best in between
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Would it be advisable for me to do 18x10 sq with 275 35 or 18x10 265 35 front 18x10.5 295 35 rear since I'll be daily driving it, and I'm far from a pro so I don't need the best track set up, just the best in between
Personal preference. Frankly, for street driving I like the OE 245/265 setup just fine, and have it back on my car now, since I have no track events for a while. I know nothing about the fitment of 295 in the rear, but you would be increasing the factory stagger which, to me, seems the wrong way to go. But again, personal preference, and I don't know what you want to achieve.
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Would it be advisable for me to do 18x10 sq with 275 35 or 18x10 265 35 front 18x10.5 295 35 rear since I'll be daily driving it, and I'm far from a pro so I don't need the best track set up, just the best in between
You'll be very happy with a square setup for both street and track. I've got the 18"x10" APEX with the 275/35-18 Dunlop Direzza's. If you're going to do ten track sessions per year (that's actually a lot, depending on the type of sessions), rotating your tires will get more months per set tires.

With most ultimate performance summer-only street compound tires, I think that you can count on around 100 to 150-laps and maybe 6,000 to 10,000 street miles IF (big IF) your suspension is properly setup and and you drive the car in a balanced manner on track. One or two 30-minute sessions of plowing through corners will total a brand new set of the very best tires money can buy. YMMV is literal here in this regard.

You seem to be Jonesing for larger rear tires. Is there a particular reason?

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