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06-20-2011, 11:09 PM | #23 |
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A certified letter to BMW NA to hold them responsible and to show your intension of getting a lawyer involved. you will be surprised how fast they will get back to you. If I was you I won't take it to that dealer again
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06-20-2011, 11:10 PM | #24 |
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Almost everyone drives their M3's and lets them hit 8k rpm. I doubt they have problems like this and I'm fairly sure your dealer sold it to you with some sort of advertisement of the cars high rev-line. Make sure you get all the tech data and call BMW NA. They'll sort it out for you hopefully. Good luck.
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06-20-2011, 11:18 PM | #25 |
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Sorry to hear about ur car and what u have beeen goin through man/
First,ive had a SC on my car for the past 20K miles and ive yet to have a single problem. Second,the Subframe in the E9X M3 is no joke,aint like the E46 M3 aqnd E36 M3 and so is the differential. I think that u might have had something wrong with ur subframe when ur car was built and the differential just went bad cause it wasnt mounted right to the subframe,may be it was off so it wasnt spining freely. Dont take its not covered under warranty for an answer and good luck man !!!1 |
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I'm afraid not. A subframe is not going to break due to a botched shift. No way. It's pretty darn stout.
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On the second sentence, on one instance it turned out the subframe damage happened when shop installing an exhaust forgot to tighten 2 of the 3 bolts (the ones holding the brackets where exhaust hangs) holding the differential to the subframe, and eventually snapped the 3rd. Not owner's fault directly, but even less BMW's. Finally, my advice is to come clean about what happened (at least with BMW), since if you're caught lying, you're not going to get anywhere. Even if you had a launch or two, the car is supposed to withstand some abuse. Remember experienced technicians can pretty much tell by the way something broke how it happened, and it'd be pretty clear if it was a defect, abuse, negligence (in case the bolts were removed and not tightened properly), or if you hit something. I REALLY doubt you'd be immediately turned down for warranty if something wasn't pretty obvious to them, and without the 'full truth' from you, all our comments are useless. Good luck man. |
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06-20-2011, 11:35 PM | #27 |
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Seems very strange they wouldn't put the warranty denial in writing, based on that alone I would still take it to another dealership and see what they say.
Once it goes on your service invoice paperwork then it is part of the BMW computer service record so why not give it in writing so all other dealers would know about it?
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06-20-2011, 11:43 PM | #28 |
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There have been a couple diff's here with broken bolts holding them in. Wonder if that's what started it???
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06-20-2011, 11:48 PM | #29 |
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A broken bolt holding up the diff shouldn't be enough to kill the diff though. I'm trying to figure out how the diff broke. The broken diff bolts are actually quite common, doesn't take much to snap them.
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Thats not right, less your'e not telling us something
your car is brand new.. good luck
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06-21-2011, 03:36 AM | #37 |
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Which makes taking the car to another dealer/ringing BMWNA a waste of time as the results of the engineers inspection will be on your cars file.
Get an independent engineer (preferably with court testifying experience) to inspect your car and based on his opinion proceed with legal action or pony up the cash for the repair yourself. |
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06-21-2011, 06:19 AM | #38 |
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I would be really disappointed if BMW told me that my high performance BMW was really designed for low performance driving and that my warranty would be voided if I bounced off the rev limiter. These cars should be able to run at the dragstrip or at the track.
A mechanical over rev due to a a driver error downshift instead of upshift would be another matter. |
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More likely is that the BMW engineer was told that the owner had installed a non-BMW exhaust and he found evidence that the third party installer had caused or contributed to the subframe/Diff failure.
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Sorry for your loss, but maybe you'll learn to take better care of your stuff in the future. It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a BMW engineer to figure out you broke this car out of abuse.
A warranty is not a license to beat the shit out of your car. If you honestly believe this car broke because of faulty manufacturing or a faulty part, you are deluding yourself.
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So BMW made a car to rev to 8000+rpms, marketed as the highest revving production car, and yet if a customer does exceed 8000revs and something breaks now or down the road it is the customers fault? Sounds like a load of BS to me that the dealer is giving you. You might as well tell them to no longer sell the car, if that is the case. Get a lawyer and take it up with bmw na.
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