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      06-09-2011, 01:24 PM   #1
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M3 Superchargers?

Im planning to throw in supercharger at decent price, what brand is recommended? How many hp gain?
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      06-09-2011, 01:39 PM   #2
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As much as I hate when people tell me to do this, please use the function.
ESS, Gintani and AA all have S/C systems.
ESS has a "budget" kit for $8495 that yields around 450rwhp and 320rwtq. VT-1 535 kit.

www.esstuning.com
www.gintani.com
www.activeautowerke.com

I have heard great things about all 3 companies but have not yet taken the s/c plunge.
The majority of members here run the ESS kit due to ease of installation, price and upgradability.

You can find dynos on all the websites above.
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      06-09-2011, 02:00 PM   #3
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Search is your friend,as this questions u r asking will most likely start a war !
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thx for the help! btw does supercharger change the exhaust note?
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thx for the help! btw does supercharger change the exhaust note?
No. But turbos do.
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Active Autowerke is a great option for supercharging any E9x M3, we have alot of experience with their company and their kits, if anyone has any questions or have interest in ordering please feel free to email me, and I will do my best to answer any questions you may have!


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No. But turbos do.
Turbos are superchargers - they just work differently.
Both will change your exhaust note varying on how much boost you are running. More air is sent to your engine (accompanied by more fuel from larger injectors and a software tune) yields a louder exhaust note.
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Turbos are superchargers - they just work differently.
Both will change your exhaust note varying on how much boost you are running. More air is sent to your engine (accompanied by more fuel from larger injectors and a software tune) yields a louder exhaust note.
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he's completely correct actually, my exhaust note 100% changed in tone after i went from vt1 (5psi) to vt2 (im my case 8psi) infact my static trackside noise test rose from 94.6DB to 99DB, superchargers may not be connected directly to the exhaust like a turbo (which actually surpresses noise by nature), but the volumn can rise and tone definatly changes, this is fact.
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      06-09-2011, 04:28 PM   #12
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Turbos are superchargers - they just work differently.
Both will change your exhaust note varying on how much boost you are running. More air is sent to your engine (accompanied by more fuel from larger injectors and a software tune) yields a louder exhaust note.
Not necessarily the case. Many turbo cars are actually quieter as a portion of the energy from the exhaust goes into turning the turbine
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he's completely correct actually, my exhaust note 100% changed in tone after i went from vt1 (5psi) to vt2 (im my case 8psi) infact my static trackside noise test rose from 94.6DB to 99DB, superchargers may not be connected directly to the exhaust like a turbo (which actually surpresses noise by nature), but the volumn can rise and tone definatly changes, this is fact.
read what he said again. I'm not arguing that a S/C might increase engine/exhaust noise, but saying that turbochargers are superchargers that just work differently is a gross oversimplification. especially when you consider how profound of an effect turbochargers have on exhaust noise. so, no, he's not "completely correct."
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he's completely correct actually, my exhaust note 100% changed in tone after i went from vt1 (5psi) to vt2 (im my case 8psi) infact my static trackside noise test rose from 94.6DB to 99DB, superchargers may not be connected directly to the exhaust like a turbo (which actually surpresses noise by nature), but the volumn can rise and tone definatly changes, this is fact.


Static test has nothing to do with Supercharger. It cant make more noise when you are holding a gas pedal steady at the 3/4 of the maximum RPM. You might as well not have a supercharger, because you are not producing boost.

A turbo on the other hand, acts directly as a resonator or a muffler that quiets down the tone of gases as they exit engine cylinder.
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To play devil's advocate, I'm going to simplify it even further:

Superchargers and turbos are both essentially just air compressors; the only difference is HOW they get the turbines to spin.
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      06-09-2011, 09:52 PM   #17
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ESS VT1 - 535 is a great place to start. It is the best HP increase value for the money you will find.
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Since you're located in L.A., I say check out Gintani over in Van Nuys and look at what they have and talk to the owner.
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Bang for the buck.... ESS VT1-535 hits the sweet spot!
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OP, you live in an area where Superchargers are plentiful. Search, the Forum, talk to the Owners. That's what I did.

Like You, I wanted one but had a budget. I made my choice and couldn't be happier. Best Bang for the buck! Completely changed the personality of the car.

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