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      05-24-2011, 10:23 AM   #1
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Active Autowerke Level 2 625 Supercharger System | Dyno Data

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Vehicle 1: Alpine white E90 M3, 6 Speed, stock cats, Supersprint Exhaust and the Active Autowerke Level 2 625 Supercharger System.


Vehicle 2: Alpine white E92 M3, 6 speed, Active Autowerke X-Pipe, Active Autowerke Exhaust and the Active Autowerke Level 2 625 Supercharger System.

Both vehicle were taken to a Dyno Jet and to the Active Autowerke Mustang Dyno on Friday May 20th, 2011. All testing completed between 9am and 4pm.

You'll notice Vehicle 2 will show a ~15% drive train loss on a Dyno Jet and a ~23% drive train loss on our Mustang although all testing was completed on the same day and conditions.
A Dyno Jet is an inertia dyno which calculates horsepower based on how fast the drum (set weight) is spun and then it calculates horsepower. Dyno Jets also 'assume 85% mechanical efficiency' which means it factors in a 15% drive train loss in it's formula.

Our Mustang is a load based dyno and calculates the horsepower differently based on vehicle's weight, temp, etc... Generally Mustang's tend to read lower. Scroll down for charts and vid's.
Based on the charts below you'll also notice Vehicle 1 shows on ~15-20 less horsepower while the only difference between the cars is the exhaust system.
This is why...



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Vehicle 1:

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Vehicle 2:

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-Dyno Jet:




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solid numbers !
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nice numbers guys i hope to have another dyno soon to see how much my cat less pipes added power to my car.
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Great Info Jean - looks like some solid numbers!
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Thanks guys.

Yes due to the overall design of the system it does make a healthy dose of torque.
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Thanks guys.

Yes due to the overall design of the system it does make a healthy dose of torque.
lol healthy dose of tq to make me get new tires quickers lol.
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      05-24-2011, 03:56 PM   #7
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nice numbers guys i hope to have another dyno soon to see how much my cat less pipes added power to my car.
Hopefully your weather conditions are a little better than ours Enjoy the car!
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the weather is all right over here... had a run in with a Z06 on the way home tho let just say he was surprised
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the weather is all right over here... had a run in with a Z06 on the way home tho let just say he was surprised
Be safe out there..
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TQ figures are great......Just what these ///M engines need, each blower has its advantages, i love the vortech units for that top end power but what LOVE some more low end shove, these HkS units do fall at the top, each has it own pitfalls, great numbers and well done.
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Thanks. You really can feel the torque, especially at part throttle.

Makes it a lot more fun to drive
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solid numbers !
Thank you sir.
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Enjoying mine everyday! Solid number Omar.

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Whyd you guys go with this size blower? Not trying to stir shit up, just curious...is it the same one that's run on the E46 platform?
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Whyd you guys go with this size blower? Not trying to stir shit up, just curious...is it the same one that's run on the E46 platform?
i believe it is.
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Whyd you guys go with this size blower? Not trying to stir shit up, just curious...is it the same one that's run on the E46 platform?
The blower itself is capable of more. As far as choosing the blower we were pleased with the compact design and the 'turbolike' technology. The blower produces a good amount of usable torque in the midrange which we felt was the M3's weak spot.

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Enjoying mine everyday! Solid number Omar.

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That is the most important part. Drive safely!
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Hey Guys,

Here is another run of the E92 with matching vid. Enjoy.





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Thanks dude,i feel special !!!!
Are you still impressed with the TQ of that little blower ............cosidering Drew's car is running 1/2 psi less boost ??
again it was never 8 so please stop spreading wrong info.
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akh23456,

No worries, I am sure everyone can read between the lines by now... As many things have been made very clear in the past week.

I would not sweat it, enjoy the car and drive safe.

Lets move on and keep this thread about the info in the orignal post or questions pertaining to it.
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Here are some pics of the E90 With cats, enjoy.





More pics found here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542938
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