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      06-06-2011, 05:16 PM   #23
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The Autocar review says its faster.

It also says the C63 coupe has better turn-in and steering feel than the M3.

Also they would now pick the C63 over the M3.

But that review won't make the front page.
Image how many of us would jump ship if Mercedes would just offer a proper manual 6 speed in one of those beasts!

Image the upcoming C63 Black Series in stick shift.
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      06-06-2011, 05:17 PM   #24
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After 5 years the M3 is still capable of beating its newer lame rivals If we look back when the m3 was launched we won't find any comparison between and the old c class amg...that's because it doesn't have any chance...and now the m3 is still comparable easily...AND IT'S STILL AT THE TOP!!!that's what we should look for in a car not some horsepower numbers written on papers.
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The Autocar review says its faster.

It also says the C63 coupe has better turn-in and steering feel than the M3.

Also they would now pick the C63 over the M3.

But that review won't make the front page.
This is BMW website, go to C63post if you want to read biased reviews
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      06-06-2011, 05:47 PM   #26
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I wish that one of the 1563732 special edition M3s would be something that will compete with the C63 Black Series. That thing will be unreal.
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I don't understand how someone can like the look of a C Class Mercedes. I am a M3 guy but to me RS5 at least has the looks going for it. Mercedes reminds me of typical American cars with a big engine.
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      06-06-2011, 05:59 PM   #28
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Cant wait to see what next M3 will do. MB will have 5.5 TT v8 in there by then. Torque for BMW finally to go with MB torque..
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      06-06-2011, 06:13 PM   #29
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It's not a different engine. It's an engine tune.
While it isn't a completely new engine, it does involve more than just a tune. In addition, there are forged pistons, a lighter crankshaft and lighter con rods.
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M3 all the way. Then the Merc. The Audi is ugly as hell.
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      06-06-2011, 06:37 PM   #31
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I would not mind having both cars (Merc/Audi) to add in my garage.
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...seriously m3's still my pick. i feel like everything else is just a copy.
In what way are they copies? The RS5 is more like the RS4 than anything else, which the E92 M3 seems to derive some inspiration from (like the high-revving N/A V8 with ~420bhp). It's a GT car; too heavy to really take these cars on from a performance or excitement standpoint. The C63 is a unique car in all its own. It has a massive, refined nuclear bomb under its hood, and the chassis is well sorted out (with better road feel than an M3, to boot). It's a completely viable alternative to the M3; no copycat here.

I will say that the M3's character still comes off as more unique. Everything seems that much more homogenous. I'll take the C63 regardless though.

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After 5 years the M3 is still capable of beating its newer lame rivals If we look back when the m3 was launched we won't find any comparison between and the old c class amg...that's because it doesn't have any chance...and now the m3 is still comparable easily...AND IT'S STILL AT THE TOP!!!that's what we should look for in a car not some horsepower numbers written on papers.
You ever drive a C63? I have more fun in that than I do in an M3. What's funny is that Autocar, one of the most respected European auto publications, favors the C63 coupe over the M3.
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The Autocar review says its faster.

It also says the C63 coupe has better turn-in and steering feel than the M3.

Also they would now pick the C63 over the M3.

But that review won't make the front page.
Exactly. Bimmerpost never posts a single comparison where the BMW isn't on top. The result: tons of increasingly biased forum users that use this site as their main source of information.
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This is BMW website, go to C63post if you want to read biased reviews
Biased...really now. I lol'd.
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I wish that one of the 1563732 special edition M3s would be something that will compete with the C63 Black Series. That thing will be unreal.
Bro, that Tiger Edition's orange paint totally makes it faster.
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I don't understand how someone can like the look of a C Class Mercedes. I am a M3 guy but to me RS5 at least has the looks going for it. Mercedes reminds me of typical American cars with a big engine.
I love the look. It's brutal but refined, just how I'd like my German sports coupe to be.
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      06-06-2011, 06:47 PM   #33
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Amazing to see the M3 still handle all of the competition, despite being 4+ years old (which isn't that much of a surprise to begin with). I say it a lot, but I like that MB is making such a beast because it keeps M division progressively developing the M3 to stay at the top. IMO the c63 is a great looking coupe with all of the aggressive lines. Audi just seems to dabble and charge ridiculous prices for their subpar performance.

the M3 is still so beautiful to me...
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      06-06-2011, 06:59 PM   #34
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      06-06-2011, 07:05 PM   #35
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In what way are they copies? The RS5 is more like the RS4 than anything else, which the E92 M3 seems to derive some inspiration from (like the high-revving N/A V8 with ~420bhp). It's a GT car; too heavy to really take these cars on from a performance or excitement standpoint. The C63 is a unique car in all its own. It has a massive, refined nuclear bomb under its hood, and the chassis is well sorted out (with better road feel than an M3, to boot). It's a completely viable alternative to the M3; no copycat here.

I will say that the M3's character still comes off as more unique. Everything seems that much more homogenous. I'll take the C63 regardless though.


You ever drive a C63? I have more fun in that than I do in an M3. What's funny is that Autocar, one of the most respected European auto publications, favors the C63 coupe over the M3.

Heh, not really.

Exactly. Bimmerpost never posts a single comparison where the BMW isn't on top. The result: tons of increasingly biased forum users that use this site as their main source of information.

Biased...really now. I lol'd.

Bro, that Tiger Edition's orange paint totally makes it faster.

I love the look. It's brutal but refined, just how I'd like my German sports coupe to be.
Cant fuck with a guy with 11k posts.... always a bad idea ahahahah

That interior of the C63 is disgusting, you cant convince me on that. I could never live with that interior, and my argument is the same for the audi and their graveyard styling. But that new C63 is a powerhouse under the hood no doubt. You can bet ill be more than happy to race one any time they shall pull up next to me, and bank on my DCT happily He may win the race, but Ill always feel like the winner
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      06-06-2011, 07:29 PM   #36
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Looks wise the Audi has both the BMW and MB beat except for the fact that M3 carbon fiber roof on white looks pretty cool.

But engine wise and driving dynamics wise give me M3 any day over the brute power of MB & Audi.
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      06-06-2011, 07:40 PM   #37
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I forgot to mention a thing or two. The C63's seats are miles ahead of the M3's (which seem to be catered to fat people). A huge plus for the AMG in my book is the tuning potential. If you ever wander over to their forums, you'll see those cars making some pretty serious N/A power with bolt ons. Crazy stuff compared to the S65.
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I don't understand how someone can like the look of a C Class Mercedes. I am a M3 guy but to me RS5 at least has the looks going for it. Mercedes reminds me of typical American cars with a big engine.
+1 it has Chrysler written all over it
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Image how many of us would jump ship if Mercedes would just offer a proper manual 6 speed in one of those beasts!

Image the upcoming C63 Black Series in stick shift.
Don't hold your breath. A fundamental of being an AMG is a automatic transmission, hate it or love it.

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I wish that one of the 1563732 special edition M3s would be something that will compete with the C63 Black Series. That thing will be unreal.
No such thing as a C63 Black series yet! Remember, this comparison is against a normal C63 or one with a performance package.

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While it isn't a completely new engine, it does involve more than just a tune. In addition, there are forged pistons, a lighter crankshaft and lighter con rods.
Exactly, many parts coming from the SLS AMG engine. Lots of tuning potential. The 2010+ cars all seem to be making a bit more power than the earlier models too.

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I forgot to mention a thing or two. The C63's seats are miles ahead of the M3's (which seem to be catered to fat people). A huge plus for the AMG in my book is the tuning potential. If you ever wander over to their forums, you'll see those cars making some pretty serious N/A power with bolt ons. Crazy stuff compared to the S65.
Yes the C63 seats are straight out of a CLK63 Black Series. They're fantastic, although like you mention, if you're on the hefty side, you just won't fit.

A tuning company just released a supercharger for the 63 engine... The HP wars live on and quite frankly MB is destroying the competition.

With all that said, and with knowing all of this info, I STILL bought a M3. (not that it matters, but feel free to lookup my postcount on MBW)
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If C63's had better interiors, choosing between that and an M3 would be almost impossible
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will be going c63 for my next vehicle.
+1, performance pack coupe for me

I'll be keeping my E46 as a track car, though, where I can really use the clutch pedal (complete lack of driving roads anywhere near me).
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