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      06-01-2011, 12:09 PM   #23
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Please don't misunderstand. In China, a regular M3 normally is pretty close to that number already. They pay huge luxury import premiums in China.

The question is, would you pay $10-20K more than normal for a special edition?
I know Americans would gladly pay for a legitimate special edition if one was released.
I saw a guy purchase a 1M for $10K over STICKER just to secure one off of a showroom floor.

I think BMW is hesitant with these special editions in the U.S. (similarly to their own German market) because American & German buyers are more discerning about what is really "special." We're not just going to jump at a special "decal" edition, especially if the main thrust of all of these special editions are cosmetic... If all you want is a cosmetic upgrade, you're better off just using the $20K towards personalizing your M through the Individual department.
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      06-01-2011, 12:13 PM   #24
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hopefully there are 111 Chinese guys of age 24 with $75,000 to blow.
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Base M3 in China is 160,000 USDollars. It's the same price all over Asia. So 30k above base? Well why not. It's not practical but h what do we know about what they know lol.
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hopefully there are 111 Chinese guys of age 24 with $75,000 to blow.
There are... at any price.
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The Chinese market are suckers for this kind of thing.

This feeds right into their desire for outward status without any real regard to how hollow this "special edition" really is.

BMW could have just put the stickers on the car and sold it for the same premium.

Bravo to BMW for financing everyone's bonuses at the M-Division with this little idea.
ditto, the market there will appreciate more of all the cosmetics this sp. ed. offers as suppose to if they made performance enhancements which they cannot see.... this is why all these sp. editions are available only to the Chinese market, it won't sell anywhere else
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Looks like BMW is milking Chinese snobs the same way Leica does...
A sure way to diminish the brand IMO.
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I like the seats!

Weird, no extended leather.
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      06-01-2011, 12:40 PM   #31
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Lol. Look at that! A BMW M3 with Mascara! Now that's something special right there...
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Please don't misunderstand. In China, a regular M3 normally is pretty close to that number already. They pay huge luxury import premiums in China.

The question is, would you pay $10-20K more than normal for a special edition?
I know Americans would gladly pay for a legitimate special edition if one was released.
I saw a guy purchase a 1M for $10K over STICKER just to secure one off of a showroom floor.

I think BMW is hesitant with these special editions in the U.S. (similarly to their own German market) because American & German buyers are more discerning about what is really "special." We're not just going to jump at a special "decal" edition, especially if the main thrust of all of these special editions are cosmetic... If all you want is a cosmetic upgrade, you're better off just using the $20K towards personalizing your M through the Individual department.

I would pay extra $10-20k for a truly "Special Edition" car and not just some pos like this one.

Any one of you can duplicate same mods on their M3 for a whole lot less at most local shops in US and call it "Special Edition".
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looks cool , but not worth it IMHO
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Base M3 in China is 160,000 USDollars. It's the same price all over Asia. So 30k above base? Well why not. It's not practical but h what do we know about what they know lol.
A E92 M3 with "free" competition package upgrade costs approximately USD$320,000 in Singapore. With taxes etc, Hong Kong sells it close to Singapore's pricing from the last i heard.

China has a huge fan base for BMWs. It isn't just BMW that is milking the China market. Audi and Merc are also frantically trying to earn as much as they can from the growing economy there too.

Let's be honest, over the years, we can only accept the fact that most stuffs have the "Design in XXX, Made in China" label. Especially when I stay within Asia itself, I can't escape the fact that so many products come from the country despite the fact that I will still try to purchase Germany/Japan products for many of my crucial engineering equipments.

By the way, for many who forgot about what happened during WWII, Japan invaded China during history. Most Chinese are still bitter over what happened and therefore, are not supportive over Japanese cars/products despite knowing of their quality. Many Japanese factories within China also ran into problems with their workers as they conducted strikes over the past few years. (Note: Happened largely to Japanese companies only)

In conclusion, our dear BMW group will try to tap from the money stream of the growing land of economy as much as they can now. In the future, when the Chinese are more experience from the information/training that they can receive from industries all over the world; they will start to set up their own higher quality companies, away from those lousy fake copies that we see in the market at the moment.

From there, it may just be a different ball game for everyone in the automotive field. I don't see why there won't be china vehicles been driven in America or European soil within the next 50-100 years. Look where the Japanese and Korean cars are at now?
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Is there any other brand that makes such rubbish special editions? Put a freaking carbonfiber dash and front splitter, and call a special edition. Someone needs to define the word special.

If you wanna make a damn special car, use the carbonfiber for trunk, hood, bumpers etc...
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M3 Panda Edition.

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At least these "limited editions" aren't much more expensive than your regular E92 M3 there.
Holy cow! Who the hell can/would pay $189K for a freaking M3? We're talking almost new Ferrari money here. Unbelievable. China seems like Mexico, where the majority of citizens are either rich or poor. And we're heading that way too . Interesting.
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i dont care much of the cosmetics upgrade on this yet another special edition M but did anyone noticed how low the car sits on the ground? This car seemed to be lowered than a regular M.
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Carbon Edition without one of the most important cf mods. Carbon side mirrors..
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Carbon Edition without one of the most important cf mods. Carbon side mirrors..

Thats just crazy talk! Now you talking about a car that will cost $250k.
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Thats just crazy talk! Now you talking about a car that will cost $250k.
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I would pay extra $10-20k for a truly "Special Edition" car and not just some pos like this one.

Any one of you can duplicate same mods on their M3 for a whole lot less at most local shops in US and call it "Special Edition".
This may be a POS for those of us on this board who know how to mod cars etc etc.. but many don't know that these mods exist, let alone how to do it.
When I put some CF stuff on my previous 335i, people always said stuff like "omg it looks so cool. how'd you do that etc etc" (by people I mean non-enthusiasts)

Thus, in China, having anything that's different, thus more expensive (key word), equals better than the other person.
I bet you those with this CF M3 think it's 10x better than their friends who have 'normal' M3s.

Kudos for BMW as the more money they make there, the more money they'll have to spend on future models etc. These special editions cost them almost little extra and are pure profit.


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Holy cow! Who the hell can/would pay $189K for a freaking M3? We're talking almost new Ferrari money here. Unbelievable. China seems like Mexico, where the majority of citizens are either rich or poor. And we're heading that way too . Interesting.

a Ferrari that costs 200k here will prly cost near 500k there.

In the US, you may have money to buy a 70k car (like a M3) but not the money to buy a 200k car (like a Ferrari). So, in China, a M3 costs 190k and you can afford to buy it, but you can't afford to buy a 500k Ferrari.

We American's don't understand how spoiled we are... we don't get such high import/luxury taxes as other countries.

In Iran, a base model small engine (usually under 2l) will cost nearly $100k! That is Porsche money right there.. for a freaking C class (and not even an AMG)
If I remember right, there's a 100% Import tax and a 100% Luxury tax.
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