Modded M3 DCT vs ESS VT1-535 M3 6MT

erm324 · 05-26-2011, 11:39 AM

Ran into slowestz last night, we did a couple runs........mods for each car:

My (camera) Car: 2011 M3 DCT, Full Gintani Catless Exhaust (sport), MS pulley, MS filter, RPI scoops, No tune yet

slowestZ (other) Car: 2011 M3 6MT, Gintani Race Axle-back, ESS VT1-535 Blower

First race, 20ish-130ish....both cars spinning through first:

Second race, 20ish-100ish...both cars spinning again:

its obvious hes putting down more power....DCT was the only thing letting me hang.

enjoy

tazam3 · 05-26-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by erm324

Ran into slowestz last night, we did a couple runs........mods for each car:

My (camera) Car: 2011 M3 DCT, Full Gintani Catless Exhaust (sport), MS pulley, MS filter, RPI scoops, No tune yet

slowestZ (other) Car: 2011 M3 6MT, Gintani Race Axle-back, ESS VT1-535 Blower

First race, 20ish-130ish....both cars spinning through first:

Second race, 20ish-100ish...both cars spinning again:

its obvious hes putting down more power....DCT was the only thing letting me hang.

enjoy

Nice job grabbing last minute videos.

I understand DCT will help but with a car making another supposed 100+whp it should definitely pull harder.. Is he a horrible driver? How come he doesn't initially pull atleast (when shifting doesnt matter)?

erm324 · 05-26-2011, 11:47 AM

Hes a good driver.....he doesnt initially pull because he was on stock wheel/tires while I'm running 11" rears with 295s with less power and around 200lbs more in my car (we both had a passenger, but we weighed alotmore)....I'm hooking better while hes spinning more....

..I see where your coming from though....I was shocked too when I was able to hang

akh23456 · 05-26-2011, 01:25 PM

nice run shows how dct is great from a roll...is he in the gear that he want to start off in or downshifting?

img · 05-26-2011, 02:51 PM

Very nice ERM,and you are right about the DCT...it does make you hang longer with him till a certian point.your car should be a beast with a nice tune !!!!!

GOLFFRR · 05-26-2011, 02:54 PM

impressive. nice mods and performance from your car

WERKE · 05-26-2011, 03:51 PM

Wow!

it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result.

img · 05-26-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by WERKE

Wow!

it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result.

THen u must be a better driver !!!!

sl0westz · 05-26-2011, 04:20 PM

Just to clarify everything.... Both runs I was on 2nd gear about 30mph. Because for me to start at first gear jus means moreeee wheel spin... He initially pulled on me and I was very surprised and I can feel that dct was shifting faster at least a sec faster than me .... I def have traction issues and I believe he have a lot weight in the car also ... I'm very impressed with his car... Looks and sounds awesome also pretty fast... I'm having 275 rear kdw ta coming in next week so hopefully sometime later we can do it again with better footage for you guys.... I also had a gf in the car that was bitching me out the whole time we were running Hahahha...nice meeting u again Rick

sl0westz · 05-26-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WERKE

Wow!

it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result.

Def a better driver than me.... Ern knows how ny road is we barely get a chance to go over 120 ( potholes and other cars on the road) we were lucky somehow we all went to watch midnight show of hangover2 and we got out around 2am and they just paved the road we were on...

duk · 05-26-2011, 05:32 PM

awesome runs, wonder if u guys started around 80mph what it would be like

img · 05-26-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sl0westz

Just to clarify everything.... First run I was on 2nd gear about 30mph. Because for me to start at first gear jus means moreeee wheel spin... He initially pulled on me and I was very surprised and I can feel that dct was shifting faster at least a sec faster than me .... I def have traction issues and I believe he have a lot weight in the car also ... I'm very impressed with his car... Looks and sounds awesome also pretty fast... I'm have 275 rear kdw ta coming in next week so hopefully sometime later we can do it again with better footage for you guys.... I also had a gf in the car that was bitching me out the whole time we were running Hahahha...nice meeting u again Rick

I def know all about wheel spin man,i have same problem !!
also have the wife problem too !!! streets are aweful around here .Be safe !!!!!

studntloan · 05-26-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by img

I def know all about wheel spin man,i have same problem !!
also have the wife problem too !!! streets are aweful around here .Be safe !!!!!

nothing like the women screaming and clawing while your driving! love that feeling!!!

img · 05-26-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Studntloan

nothing like the women screaming and clawing while your driving! love that feeling!!!

It was only a matter of time till mine adapted !!! hahah

erm324 · 05-26-2011, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WERKE

Wow!

it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result.

I've pulled a couple cars on stock C63s as well..

bape_sta206 · 05-26-2011, 11:17 PM

interesting... I would assume the SC would pull hard...

1cleanm3 · 05-27-2011, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bapesta206

interesting... I would assume the SC would pull hard...

same here kind of ah dissapointed. But i guess it might be driver error.

saeedg48 · 05-27-2011, 02:05 AM

haha yah dct is fast. but a 6mt supercharger...ow my!

thanks for the vids

duk · 05-27-2011, 02:19 AM

is the ESS car on stock rubber size? i've ridden in a VT1 on stock tires before, pretty useless anything up to mid of 3rd gear where it finally gets some grip.

z00m · 05-27-2011, 02:27 AM

MT driver can't shift

sl0westz · 05-27-2011, 07:37 AM

sorry for the disappointment to my fellow ess owners.... i showed the clip to few of my friends they all said the same thing about my shifting... can anyone shed somelight of the proper way or the best way to shift in this situtation ... running stock rubbers with about 50 percent life.... thanks
edit : maybe img can help me out here with some advice??

img · 05-27-2011, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sl0westz

sorry for the disappointment to my fellow ess owners.... i showed the clip to few of my friends they all said the same thing about my shifting... can anyone shed somelight of the proper way or the best way to shift in this situtation ... running stock rubbers with about 50 percent life.... thanks
edit : maybe img can help me out here with some advice??

Hey bro,you will get wheel spin in low speed no doubt about that.and theres no disappointment,you win some and you lose some.and yes there are proper ways of shifting that i will be more than happy to explain when we all get together.Chin up brotha !!! we are all friends !!!!
Also everyone is comparing a moded M3 and a VT1 535 and neglecting that that the moded M3 is DCT.
Check out this link just to get an idea how much faster does the DCT shifts:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515881
I yet to see or hear about a human DCT means shifting a 6MT as fast as DCT.

05-26-2011, 11:39 AM	#1
erm324 Major Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,048 iTrader: (1)	Modded M3 DCT vs ESS VT1-535 M3 6MT Ran into slowestz last night, we did a couple runs........mods for each car: My (camera) Car: 2011 M3 DCT, Full Gintani Catless Exhaust (sport), MS pulley, MS filter, RPI scoops, No tune yet slowestZ (other) Car: 2011 M3 6MT, Gintani Race Axle-back, ESS VT1-535 Blower First race, 20ish-130ish....both cars spinning through first: Second race, 20ish-100ish...both cars spinning again: its obvious hes putting down more power....DCT was the only thing letting me hang. enjoy
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05-26-2011, 01:25 PM	#4
akh23456 All I do is Win... Eat Race Sleep Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Jersey Posts: 1,891 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2009 M3 [4.28] 2013 f10 M5 [0.00]	nice run shows how dct is great from a roll...is he in the gear that he want to start off in or downshifting? __________________ F10 M5 : ??? E90 M3 11.2 126.7 with a 1.8 60ft Street Tires

05-26-2011, 02:51 PM	#5
img VT3 Drives: E36 M3 Track car,Ess E90 M3 DD Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Couch Posts: 5,866 iTrader: (5)	Very nice ERM,and you are right about the DCT...it does make you hang longer with him till a certian point.your car should be a beast with a nice tune !!!!! __________________ NO FEAR.NO LIMITS.NO EQUAL Ess VT3 LC built motor,Volk TE37SL,Challenge modefied Xpipe,Akra axle back CF tips. LOW BOOST 60-130 6.7 sec

05-26-2011, 02:54 PM	#6
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05-26-2011, 03:51 PM	#7
WERKE President Directeur General Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow Posts: 137 iTrader: (1)	Wow! it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result. __________________ ESS VT1-535, Remus race

05-26-2011, 11:47 AM	#3
erm324 Major Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,048 iTrader: (1)	Hes a good driver.....he doesnt initially pull because he was on stock wheel/tires while I'm running 11" rears with 295s with less power and around 200lbs more in my car (we both had a passenger, but we weighed alotmore)....I'm hooking better while hes spinning more.... ..I see where your coming from though....I was shocked too when I was able to hang

05-26-2011, 04:20 PM	#9
sl0westz Private First Class Drives: ess vt1 e92 m3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NY Posts: 181 iTrader: (6)	Just to clarify everything.... Both runs I was on 2nd gear about 30mph. Because for me to start at first gear jus means moreeee wheel spin... He initially pulled on me and I was very surprised and I can feel that dct was shifting faster at least a sec faster than me .... I def have traction issues and I believe he have a lot weight in the car also ... I'm very impressed with his car... Looks and sounds awesome also pretty fast... I'm having 275 rear kdw ta coming in next week so hopefully sometime later we can do it again with better footage for you guys.... I also had a gf in the car that was bitching me out the whole time we were running Hahahha...nice meeting u again Rick __________________ ess vt1535/ gintani axle back Last edited by sl0westz; 05-26-2011 at 11:29 PM.

05-26-2011, 05:32 PM	#11
duk ///M Drives: 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,700 iTrader: (0)	awesome runs, wonder if u guys started around 80mph what it would be like __________________ 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 \| Powered by Premier \| Alekshop \| ESS \| Rok n Peace Clothing: www.roknpeace.com

05-26-2011, 11:17 PM	#16
bape_sta206 tha_good_life Drives: 2010 JzB E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,567 iTrader: (14) Garage List 2010 BMW M3 [4.27]	interesting... I would assume the SC would pull hard...

05-27-2011, 02:05 AM	#18
saeedg48 Brigadier General Drives: 2008 6MT E90 M3 & 2012 CLS63 P Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Unknown Posts: 3,354 iTrader: (1)	haha yah dct is fast. but a 6mt supercharger...ow my! thanks for the vids __________________ _______________

05-27-2011, 02:19 AM	#19
duk ///M Drives: 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,700 iTrader: (0)	is the ESS car on stock rubber size? i've ridden in a VT1 on stock tires before, pretty useless anything up to mid of 3rd gear where it finally gets some grip. __________________ 2011 AW/FR 6MT E92 \| Powered by Premier \| Alekshop \| ESS \| Rok n Peace Clothing: www.roknpeace.com

05-27-2011, 02:27 AM	#20
z00m Private First Class Drives: E92 m3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lithuania,Vilnius Posts: 199 iTrader: (0)	MT driver can't shift

05-27-2011, 07:37 AM	#21
sl0westz Private First Class Drives: ess vt1 e92 m3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NY Posts: 181 iTrader: (6)	sorry for the disappointment to my fellow ess owners.... i showed the clip to few of my friends they all said the same thing about my shifting... can anyone shed somelight of the proper way or the best way to shift in this situtation ... running stock rubbers with about 50 percent life.... thanks edit : maybe img can help me out here with some advice?? __________________ ess vt1535/ gintani axle back

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