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      05-26-2011, 11:39 AM   #1
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Modded M3 DCT vs ESS VT1-535 M3 6MT

Ran into slowestz last night, we did a couple runs........mods for each car:

My (camera) Car: 2011 M3 DCT, Full Gintani Catless Exhaust (sport), MS pulley, MS filter, RPI scoops, No tune yet

slowestZ (other) Car: 2011 M3 6MT, Gintani Race Axle-back, ESS VT1-535 Blower



First race, 20ish-130ish....both cars spinning through first:


Second race, 20ish-100ish...both cars spinning again:



its obvious hes putting down more power....DCT was the only thing letting me hang.

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      05-26-2011, 11:45 AM   #2
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Ran into slowestz last night, we did a couple runs........mods for each car:

My (camera) Car: 2011 M3 DCT, Full Gintani Catless Exhaust (sport), MS pulley, MS filter, RPI scoops, No tune yet

slowestZ (other) Car: 2011 M3 6MT, Gintani Race Axle-back, ESS VT1-535 Blower



First race, 20ish-130ish....both cars spinning through first:


Second race, 20ish-100ish...both cars spinning again:



its obvious hes putting down more power....DCT was the only thing letting me hang.

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Nice job grabbing last minute videos.

I understand DCT will help but with a car making another supposed 100+whp it should definitely pull harder.. Is he a horrible driver? How come he doesn't initially pull atleast (when shifting doesnt matter)?
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Hes a good driver.....he doesnt initially pull because he was on stock wheel/tires while I'm running 11" rears with 295s with less power and around 200lbs more in my car (we both had a passenger, but we weighed alotmore)....I'm hooking better while hes spinning more....


..I see where your coming from though....I was shocked too when I was able to hang
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nice run shows how dct is great from a roll...is he in the gear that he want to start off in or downshifting?
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Very nice ERM,and you are right about the DCT...it does make you hang longer with him till a certian point.your car should be a beast with a nice tune !!!!!
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impressive. nice mods and performance from your car
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Wow!

it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result.
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Wow!

it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result.
THen u must be a better driver !!!!
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Just to clarify everything.... Both runs I was on 2nd gear about 30mph. Because for me to start at first gear jus means moreeee wheel spin... He initially pulled on me and I was very surprised and I can feel that dct was shifting faster at least a sec faster than me .... I def have traction issues and I believe he have a lot weight in the car also ... I'm very impressed with his car... Looks and sounds awesome also pretty fast... I'm having 275 rear kdw ta coming in next week so hopefully sometime later we can do it again with better footage for you guys.... I also had a gf in the car that was bitching me out the whole time we were running Hahahha...nice meeting u again Rick
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Wow!

it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result.
Def a better driver than me.... Ern knows how ny road is we barely get a chance to go over 120 ( potholes and other cars on the road) we were lucky somehow we all went to watch midnight show of hangover2 and we got out around 2am and they just paved the road we were on...
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awesome runs, wonder if u guys started around 80mph what it would be like
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Just to clarify everything.... First run I was on 2nd gear about 30mph. Because for me to start at first gear jus means moreeee wheel spin... He initially pulled on me and I was very surprised and I can feel that dct was shifting faster at least a sec faster than me .... I def have traction issues and I believe he have a lot weight in the car also ... I'm very impressed with his car... Looks and sounds awesome also pretty fast... I'm have 275 rear kdw ta coming in next week so hopefully sometime later we can do it again with better footage for you guys.... I also had a gf in the car that was bitching me out the whole time we were running Hahahha...nice meeting u again Rick
I def know all about wheel spin man,i have same problem !!
also have the wife problem too !!! streets are aweful around here .Be safe !!!!!
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I def know all about wheel spin man,i have same problem !!
also have the wife problem too !!! streets are aweful around here .Be safe !!!!!
nothing like the women screaming and clawing while your driving! love that feeling!!!
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nothing like the women screaming and clawing while your driving! love that feeling!!!
It was only a matter of time till mine adapted !!! hahah
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Wow!

it's very surprising, i have no problem sticking 1-2 car lengths at my friend C63, accelerating from 40 to 160km/h. My car is manual, i have Michelin PSS 275 in rear, Remus race cat-back and VT1-535 .... it's a very strange result.
I've pulled a couple cars on stock C63s as well..
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interesting... I would assume the SC would pull hard...
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interesting... I would assume the SC would pull hard...
same here kind of ah dissapointed. But i guess it might be driver error.
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haha yah dct is fast. but a 6mt supercharger...ow my!
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is the ESS car on stock rubber size? i've ridden in a VT1 on stock tires before, pretty useless anything up to mid of 3rd gear where it finally gets some grip.
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sorry for the disappointment to my fellow ess owners.... i showed the clip to few of my friends they all said the same thing about my shifting... can anyone shed somelight of the proper way or the best way to shift in this situtation ... running stock rubbers with about 50 percent life.... thanks
edit : maybe img can help me out here with some advice??
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sorry for the disappointment to my fellow ess owners.... i showed the clip to few of my friends they all said the same thing about my shifting... can anyone shed somelight of the proper way or the best way to shift in this situtation ... running stock rubbers with about 50 percent life.... thanks
edit : maybe img can help me out here with some advice??
Hey bro,you will get wheel spin in low speed no doubt about that.and theres no disappointment,you win some and you lose some.and yes there are proper ways of shifting that i will be more than happy to explain when we all get together.Chin up brotha !!! we are all friends !!!!
Also everyone is comparing a moded M3 and a VT1 535 and neglecting that that the moded M3 is DCT.
Check out this link just to get an idea how much faster does the DCT shifts:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=515881
I yet to see or hear about a human DCT means shifting a 6MT as fast as DCT.
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