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      05-26-2011, 01:02 AM   #23
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The throttle plate is small and short. No chance of Heel-toe without a modification.
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i have only driven the reg wagons but i can check for you on the 6MT CTS V Wagon. i have to bring an ESV to one of my good customers in the city tom but if i get back early i will make a call. if not then i will find out fri for you. you got me curious now lol
Let me know what you find out (PM if needed). Thanks.
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Waaaay too much flake in that paint...gross. As for CTS-V wagon, I saw it at the auto show and love it. Who doesn't love a ZR1 powered, rear drive, six speed manual wagon?
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I have to say, after having my father's 2011 CTS-V sedan for a week, I'm not impressed. He has the regular seats, not the Recaros and it's an automatic. But so much of the car just isn't that great. The transmission is just awful, plain and simple. The GM navigation isn't very helpful, there's no Bluetooth, the iPod adapter is the worst I've ever used, the seats are not bolstered enough for me and make my back hurt, and the suspension, whether in Touring or Sport, is just crap. But the worst thing of all for me is the steering wheel. It's SO awful. It's the worst thing I've ever wrapped my dick beaters around. It's great when flying through a corner, but driving down the highway there's so much tire noise that I just get shitty headaches.

I say, set the car on fire and start from scratch. It's ridiculously fast in a straight line, and not too shabby in the corners. As fun as it may be when that LSA motor is at full bore, I found myself getting tired of the car.

The things it does right: Brakes, power, steering input/sensitivity, suspension through corners. All else, not that great.
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So you're saying you're on the fence about it? I don't really care about nav and the other stuff, maybe different rubber can solve the road noise (I can see how that would be annoying), Recaro seats sound like a necessity and I would only get the 6-speed. That would hopefully leave all of the other stuff it does right.

Sounds like I just should go drive one and see for myself, but was hoping to find a 6 around somewhere.
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yeah the manual is the only way to go on the CTS V in my op, if your a car junky like us.

the dealer i did a swap with down in LI the other day already sold all there black diamond coupes. i was actually suprised they went that fast but they are a really big dealer and have been around for years. there pullin over 100 cars a month with a good chunk being CTS V's

sig i put a call in with my Caddy rep who handles alot of CTS V stuff so i should know something by tue. it would of been sooner but i forgot it is a holiday weekend. Sarrant the place i picked up the ESV from has sold 6mt wagons he said but all were ordered so i couldn't get a def answer
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One of my good friends has a '10 CTS-V sedan. His is an auto (which I wouldn't get, personally) but I personally think this is a great car. Last September we took a road trip (~14hrs both ways) to Warsaw, IN to go to www.wait4meperformance.com and he had some cool stuff done to the car. For the amount that some of us spend on an exhaust and CF diffuser, he had porting, heads, and other things to yield him 640 rwhp. The car is an absolute beast. He jokes that he'd beat me until the first corner if we were racing, but the thing handles great, too. It's an american car for sure, but I have some respect for it. Remember that the guy that did our E60 M5 developed the CTS-V and he wanted to build a car that would beat our beloved bimmers. Does the CTS-V not still hold the nurburgring record for a sedan?

We are going to do a photoshoot together this summer so I'll be sure to link some pics to this thread if you guys are interested.
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Rear quarter panel kills the look the the coupe. They could have done much better.
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      05-28-2011, 12:52 PM   #31
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Does the CTS-V not still hold the nurburgring record for a sedan?
Panamera Turbo beat it by about 3 seconds.
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Panamera Turbo beat it by about 3 seconds.
Ah, thanks for the info. I personally can't get past the looks of the Panamera so it is forever off my radar.
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So you're saying you're on the fence about it? I don't really care about nav and the other stuff, maybe different rubber can solve the road noise (I can see how that would be annoying), Recaro seats sound like a necessity and I would only get the 6-speed. That would hopefully leave all of the other stuff it does right.

Sounds like I just should go drive one and see for myself, but was hoping to find a 6 around somewhere.
Haha, yeah, I'm totally torn. I looked at used Vs, C63 AMGs and RS4s when looking for my M3. I enjoy all of those cars, especially the AMG, but the M3 just does it for me. I think, personally, if you want a car that does your daily duties almost perfectly, the M3 is the car. Granted, the trunk is a bit shorter than the CTS, but most of the stuff in the M3 feels more comfortable and bigger. There are more places to put things in the front, too.

But ultimately, it's your buy with your money. As a former car salesman, I always tell people, if you're happy with it and you think it was money well spent, then it was a great deal.
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You have to see the coupe in person to truly appreciate it. The rear quarter panel on the E92 leaves a lot to be desired its very boring looking. The E46 kills it
I saw it in person on a couple different occasions. However, the cts seems to have way too much boring space between the back window and rear of the car. I agree that the e92 could use a little work in the same area, but it's not near as bad as bad and something I could def. live with...just my opinion.

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yeah the manual is the only way to go on the CTS V in my op, if your a car junky like us.

the dealer i did a swap with down in LI the other day already sold all there black diamond coupes. i was actually suprised they went that fast but they are a really big dealer and have been around for years. there pullin over 100 cars a month with a good chunk being CTS V's

sig i put a call in with my Caddy rep who handles alot of CTS V stuff so i should know something by tue. it would of been sooner but i forgot it is a holiday weekend. Sarrant the place i picked up the ESV from has sold 6mt wagons he said but all were ordered so i couldn't get a def answer
Cool, thanks for the update. I need to find one around here just to try for size, overall impression... even if its an auto.

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Haha, yeah, I'm totally torn. I looked at used Vs, C63 AMGs and RS4s when looking for my M3. I enjoy all of those cars, especially the AMG, but the M3 just does it for me. I think, personally, if you want a car that does your daily duties almost perfectly, the M3 is the car. Granted, the trunk is a bit shorter than the CTS, but most of the stuff in the M3 feels more comfortable and bigger. There are more places to put things in the front, too.

But ultimately, it's your buy with your money. As a former car salesman, I always tell people, if you're happy with it and you think it was money well spent, then it was a great deal.
Hope my post didn't come across the wrong way, was just thinking out loud about how your thoughts would relate to my needs.

At the end of the day, I'm just a car lover not a brand whore. Would love to try another great car in this class if its worth it to me. Just need to figure that out!
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Cool, thanks for the update. I need to find one around here just to try for size, overall impression... even if its an auto.



Hope my post didn't come across the wrong way, was just thinking out loud about how your thoughts would relate to my needs.

At the end of the day, I'm just a car lover not a brand whore. Would love to try another great car in this class if its worth it to me. Just need to figure that out!
Believe me, your words were not misconstrued. I found them funny because once I re-read my original post I realized I sounded like a prick, haha. So your joke made me laugh. I read what you said and then went over to drive my dad's CTS-V for the day just to remind myself of the feeling, and I still feel the same way. It takes too long for me to acclimate to that car each time I drive it. It's just something about it.

I used to have to drive my father's CTS and then his V a lot before I got my M3. I'd driven the M3 on numerous occasions, but never as often as I drove a CTS or CTS-V. That's just a little background so I don't sound too biased.

Like I said, if you find the right car that suits you, then it's the right deal, ya know? Sorry, I wasn't trying to sound like a dick, and hopefully I didn't. I'm just VERY much an asshole, hahaha.
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interesting thread

I've been looking for a replacement for my e46 since my family outgrew my M3...I posted threads on the forums I typically post on asking for opinions on an e90 ZCP vs. a V wagon:

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=349156

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...754&highlight=

I was pleasantly surprised w/ re: the positive feedback on the V wagon! Anyhow, I've been looking to order the Caddy but the factory has shut down production on '11s & '12s won't be available until mid-to-late August I've been spending more time here over the last several days & am getting more tempted by an e90 ZCP in Silverstone or LMB!
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Anybody driven a 6MT CTS-V wagon? Just for the rarity and practicality I was considering one. Not a Carry fan but hard to ignore the car for my needs (DD with family.) I hear they will only build one with an order and that dealers are not stocking the 6MT - can anybody verify that (H Bomb)?
I've test driven a V coupe in manual & a wagon in auto...you're correct, the 6MT wagon is special order only...
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I already decided to replace my wifes 3 series with the V Coupe. Huge bang for the buck. Then I am going to make her drive my X5M as her DD and beat the crap out of the V going to work every day. Wish I could drive the F-car to work, but it is too over the top for most folks there. CTS-V FTW.......Steve
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Rear quarter panel kills the look the the coupe. They could have done much better.
same here. Similar to the c63 coupe.
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to sound like a dick, and hopefully I didn't. I'm just VERY much an asshole, hahaha.
No way! Appreciate the opinion, I may wind up feeling the same way once I actually, uh, drive one...

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I've been looking for a replacement for my e46 since my family outgrew my M3...I posted threads on the forums I typically post on asking for opinions on an e90 ZCP vs. a V wagon:

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=349156

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...754&highlight=

I was pleasantly surprised w/ re: the positive feedback on the V wagon! Anyhow, I've been looking to order the Caddy but the factory has shut down production on '11s & '12s won't be available until mid-to-late August I've been spending more time here over the last several days & am getting more tempted by an e90 ZCP in Silverstone or LMB!
Thanks for the links.

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I've test driven a V coupe in manual & a wagon in auto...you're correct, the 6MT wagon is special order only...
Good to know. I might try a dealer locate, always people who flake or change their mind.
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same here. Similar to the c63 coupe.
Yep makes the c63 look like an Accord.
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The V wagon seems good on paper, and the auto rags praise it, but you better drive one first. Earlier in this thread I wrote a review.

I don't think its good at all. I'd rather have a stock X5 than the V wagon.
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you are not that far from our dealership, i can take care of you if you want a CTS-V. we can pick you up at the airport and you can drive it back or we can deliver it to you as well. or rent a car and drive up and drop it off by us and drive back your V. we have alot of clients that are out of state that we do delivery's for or pick them up and they take a road trip home

if you want one just pm me with your contact and i will take care of you. or if you decide to go with a different dealership let me look at the numbers first before you pull the trigger so i can make sure you get a good deal

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I've been looking for a replacement for my e46 since my family outgrew my M3...I posted threads on the forums I typically post on asking for opinions on an e90 ZCP vs. a V wagon:

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=349156

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...754&highlight=

I was pleasantly surprised w/ re: the positive feedback on the V wagon! Anyhow, I've been looking to order the Caddy but the factory has shut down production on '11s & '12s won't be available until mid-to-late August I've been spending more time here over the last several days & am getting more tempted by an e90 ZCP in Silverstone or LMB!
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