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      05-25-2011, 11:32 AM   #177
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A 3rd build? What are you smoking? Either you like the make things up (pretty obvious at this point) or you have some messed up friends that tell you bs. I wont even get into the details of my car, I definitely wouldnt even compare it to yours. So don't flatter yourself.

Cant get it tuned? My standalone power curves are MUCH smoother then yours. LOL, keep chasing power? I already make over a 1000hp unlike your < 600whp. Actually I made more power then you with my bolt on supercharger kit 6 years ago when ESS couldnt even make a kit... I ran a 123mph trap (with my manual transmission AA supercharged S54 no DCT excuse here) at LACR 6 years ago! Now some ESS cars can hardly break 117mph traps?

Its the same story with ESS and some of their loyal payroll customers, they make up things. Its just a car, dont let your insecurities manipulate you to make things up or constantly bash others.

I think everyone knows this but if a Mustang can make me look like im going in reverse, that same Mustang will make your car look 10x times worse.

How much TQ does your V8 have again lmao?

Just pathetic man, someone told me your cool in person but I dont believe that with your constant pathetic posts trying to make people look bad with nonfactual comments.
Trust me,im not the one smoking something here,wake up and realize that you are blowing smoke,you have a beautiful powerful E46 .............this is an E9x M3 forum.
O wait i forgot,seems like you are on the payroll not me !
No doubt my car is slower than yours but at the end of the day it wont last 1/4 the life time,go figure 3 built motors and stop denying it ! your motor isn't a bullet proof so stop acting like it is plz cause i yet to see an NA that went FI route and pushing these numbers without being stripped down to the crank and built every 10K. your HP and TQ looks great for a standalone ECU ,lets see if you can replicate that with a stock ECU no you want and i know it and you know it very well so stop playin games plz. ONCE AGAIN ,GO GET AN E9X M3 AND COME BACK AND POST SOMETHING USEFUL!!!

Im sure you are a cool guy and hope we will meet someday so you can realize that life is more than cars and HP ! Have a wonderful day !!!
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thanks Roman for you response but how do you explain all these bolt on M's with different transmissions putting up similar times or even the same? Does a sc change things that much that dct gains 5-10 mph in trap speed.
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      05-25-2011, 11:34 AM   #179
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I feel like people are pretty smart and able to see through some of these posts. I also realize that it is human nature to want to defend people you feel are friends. The AA fans are feeling like they are being attacked because people are saying their kits don't make the power, etc. The ESS fans are feeling like they are being attacked because people are saying their intercooler design isn't as good or their trap times aren't fast enough, etc.

If you take a step back and examine just the facts, it becomes pretty clear.

At the end of the day, when you are alone in your home deciding which kit to put on your $60K+ E90/E92 that you spent your hard earned money on (and you also don't want any problems with hardware, tune, motor, etc), ESS clearly has the win. People decide with their money. They put their money where their mouth is. Most people have decided that the ESS kit is the most reliable and best designed kit out there for the E90/E92. That is a fact not an opinion.

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      05-25-2011, 11:41 AM   #180
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I feel like people are pretty smart and able to see through some of these posts. I also realize that it is human nature to want to defend people you feel are friends. The AA fans are feeling like they are being attacked because people are saying their kits don't make the power, etc. The ESS fans are feeling like they are being attacked because people are saying their intercooler design isn't as good or their trap times aren't fast enough, etc.

If you take a step back and examine just the facts, it becomes pretty clear.

At the end of the day, when you are alone in your home deciding which kit to put on your $60K+ E90/E92 that you spent your hard earned money on (and you also don't want any problems with hardware, tune, motor, etc), ESS clearly has the win. People decide with their money. They put their money where their mouth is. Most people have decided that the ESS kit is the most reliable and best designed kit out there for the E90/E92. That is a fact not an opinion.

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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436070

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485447

so your saying that just because this forum has a list of some the guys that have these kit that by pure numbers the kit is better.( Opinion not fact.)A fact would be that they have more kits that AA on this Forum. Their are so many people that own both kits that aren't on the forums did you account for that? So if both company had a certain amount of kit out just for example Aa had 100 kits and Ess had 95 you would say Active is better because their 5 more people with the kit right?
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      05-25-2011, 11:44 AM   #181
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thanks Roman for you response but how do you explain all these bolt on M's with different transmissions putting up similar times or even the same? Does a sc change things that much that dct gains 5-10 mph in trap speed.


With all due respect Akash, why bother trying to compare apples to oranges?

It's a discussion of Supercharged M3's...
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thanks Roman for you response but how do you explain all these bolt on M's with different transmissions putting up similar times or even the same? Does a sc change things that much that dct gains 5-10 mph in trap speed.
Do you have a vaste clue what it takes to gain 5mph ?? Or even 10mph in 1/4 ??? 100 whp = 10 mph give or take a few ponnies , do the math on stock cars and do the math on full bolt on's and SC'd E9x M3's and tell me what you come up with ...
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      05-25-2011, 11:46 AM   #183
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With all due respect Akash, why bother trying to compare apples to oranges?

It's a discussion of Supercharged M3's...
With all due respect Chris, If a Dct and 6-mt trap similar time with similar bolt ons and tune how does it affect the car that much with a sc?
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      05-25-2011, 11:47 AM   #184
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so your saying that just because this forum has a list of some the guys that have these kit that by pure numbers the kit is better.( Opinion not fact.)A fact would be that they have more kits that AA on this Forum. Their are so many people that own both kits that aren't on the forums did you account for that? So if both company had a certain amount of kit out just for example Aa had 100 kits and Ess had 95 you would say Active is better because their 5 more people with the kit right?
Please re-read my thread and then take a look at the links. Not just the owners link but also the poll where 7 out of 10 people would choose ESS and only 1 out of 10 would pick AA.

"Most people have decided that the ESS kit is the most reliable and best designed kit out there for the E90/E92. That is a fact not an opinion."
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With all due respect Chris, If a Dct and 6-mt trap similar time with similar bolt ons and tune how does it affect the car that much with a sc?


And again...you're discussing cars with 100's of HP over stock...I would imagine all sorts of things can change at that point.

I guess I just don't get where it's even remotely relevant to the discussion. Anyways, carry on...
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      05-25-2011, 11:52 AM   #186
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Do you have a vaste clue what it takes to gain 5mph ?? Or even 10mph in 1/4 ??? 100 whp = 10 mph give or take a few ponnies , do the math on stock cars and do the math on full bolt on's and SC'd E9x M3's and tell me what you come up with ...
so you saying that drew numbers are shitty because he only got 130. So a Dct with Drew's setup should be making 135 compared to my numbers here at atco. I would love to see that.
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With all due respect Chris, If a Dct and 6-mt trap similar time with similar bolt ons and tune how does it affect the car that much with a sc?
Hey Akash,take a look at this thread plz ;

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And again...you're discussing cars with 100's of HP over stock...I would imagine all sorts of things can change at that point.

I guess I just don't get where it's even remotely relevant to the discussion. Anyways, carry on...
How is not remotely relevant. if a Dct and 6 mt trap the same with bolt on why shouldn't they when their sc ?
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Ess is know to be better because not only do they have more kits sold all over the globe but there reliable, not one ess kit has caused a motor to blow, not saying that Aa has but the proven method used by ess on these cars works, it's cheaper, and reliable, m33 has over 40k on his kit alone, and I have 10k 4 of which were used to travel cross country in 95 degree weather, remember this is a non intercooler kit and.my car remained cooler then it did when it was stock, so for the amount of kits sold and time they've been out and reliability they've proven, that is why we can all gladly say it is the best kit for the money and reliability, I'm not saying Aa isn't a good, i' saying ess has proven time and time again with the e9x that' it's flawless, the facts are out there, this kit is amazing and it's also used on many track cars without any cooling issues
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so you saying that drew numbers are shitty because he only got 130. So a Dct with Drew's setup should be making 135 compared to my numbers here at atco. I would love to see that.
Drew trapped 132+ on a vbox , and drew goes down the strip spinning in first and second with DR's , in your video your not even breaking tires loose .... Just saying ....

I can't wait to see how we stack up , you should do some 60-130 to see what you clock , my best was a 7.9 and izzy was a 7.8 .
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i know their alot of "group thinkers" here i am just asking question i never knocked on either kit. If you look back to my post before today i have only said good things about both even thought i own a AA kit. I respect all you guys that have Ess kit or gonna get them but why is their so much hate? I met M33 and Img this weekend am i a dick in person? Have i been a dick today( probably) but i am just asking questions and trying to learn and find out why you guys have such high hp and such low traps except drew and Mike. Why does a 6mt and dct with bolt on put down similar times but when you add sc why it isn't the same?
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Drew trapped 132+ on a vbox , and drew goes down the strip spinning in first and second with DR's , in your video your not even breaking tires loose .... Just saying ....

I can't wait to see how we stack up , you should do some 60-130 to see what you clock , my best was a 7.9 and izzy was a 7.8 .
Heres the thing,with all that much power diiference hes still got a DCT which will make up for some of the HP so i think it will be a great run.just to see how a DCT cars do against more powerful cars.

Akash,i hope you understand that these are friendly runs and we arent tryin to creat problems,met you and i think you are a cool guy and id hate to see cars getting between gentlemen.if you think that these runs will make a friendship go sour,theres no need for that.life is short !!!!
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Heres the thing,with all that much power diiference hes still got a DCT which will make up for some of the HP so i think it will be a great run.just to see how a DCT cars do against more powerful cars.

Akash,i hope you understand that these are friendly runs and we arent tryin to creat problems,met you and i think you are a cool guy and id hate to see cars getting between gentlemen.if you think that these runs will make a friendship go sour,theres no need for that.life is short !!!!
i agree Img i am not trying to be a ass or anything i respect both you guys alot and i hope you understand that. My car can only do what it can do and that how i live my life. I dont care if people are faster than me their is always someone faster. But i am just trying to understand some things you know. I think doing these run will make us better friends because we aren't on the forum.
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i know their alot of "group thinkers" here i am just asking question i never knocked on either kit. If you look back to my post before today i have only said good things about both even thought i own a AA kit. I respect all you guys that have Ess kit or gonna get them but why is their so much hate? I met M33 and Img this weekend am i a dick in person? Have i been a dick today( probably) but i am just asking questions and trying to learn and find out why you guys have such high hp and such low traps except drew and Mike. Why does a 6mt and dct with bolt on put down similar times but when you add sc why it isn't the same?
Hey Akash ,i think you are being straight forward and theres nothing wrong about that.
M33 and I never ran on a strip and as i mentioned before,most likely i wont just knowing the negative effects on the car.but i did run a 60-130 which is a great way to measure performance without beating on your 1st and 2nd gear.
I dont know where did you see a bolt on dct traping the same as a SC'd DCT M3 on the strip,also adding more power,you get a great deal of wheel spin,M33 spins the tires in 4th gear with 295s in the back .so we should see what happens and how our toys compare up top !!
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FWIW MT are known to lock up I 3rd when shifting fast
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i agree Img i am not trying to be a ass or anything i respect both you guys alot and i hope you understand that. My car can only do what it can do and that how i live my life. I dont care if people are faster than me their is always someone faster. But i am just trying to understand some things you know. I think doing these run will make us better friends because we aren't on the forum.
Then im glad that you understand that its just toys Akash and theres always someone chasing high HP !!!!
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Hey Akash ,i think you are being straight forward and theres nothing wrong about that.
M33 and I never ran on a strip and as i mentioned before,most likely i wont just knowing the negative effects on the car.but i did run a 60-130 which is a great way to measure performance without beating on your 1st and 2nd gear.
I dont know where did you see a bolt on dct traping the same as a SC'd DCT M3 on the strip,also adding more power,you get a great deal of wheel spin,M33 spins the tires in 4th gear with 295s in the back .so we should see what happens and how our toys compare up top !!
I mean a dct bolt on vs 6 mt bolt on trapping similar speeds, and time.
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FWIW MT are known to lock up I 3rd when shifting fast
thats cool man thanks can't wait to see the numbers.

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it should be a great time !!
yea i can't wait, hope we can do it soon.
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