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      05-11-2011, 02:41 AM   #1
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Wheel / Tire question for track and fun

I recently supercharged my car and i need more grip.
Due to the d... german TÜV , i am not allowed to drive Volk and Advan.

This could be a possible setup:

VMR710
Front: 9,5x19 ET 22 (Don't want the 10, because i will get a Bilsein PSS10 which needs more space than stock.)
Rear: 11,0x19 ET 25

Tires:
Front: 265/30 R19
Rear: 295/30 R19
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup+ OR Toyo Proxes R888

What do you think about this setup? Has anybody experience with the R888?

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looks like a tad aggressive fitment in the rear (slight chance of rubbing).
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      05-11-2011, 09:53 AM   #3
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You will not rub.
Those are perfect tire sizes/offsets for a track setup.

You could go more aggressive in the front with a spacer if you always needed.
The front will look more aggressive than stock but still slightly less than flush.

I am running the following:

19x10 +29 (245/35/19)
19x11 +22 (305/30/19)

You can actually run a 305 with a 19x11 +25, but you'll need a more rounded sidewall if you're lowered (ie. Michelin PS2, RE-11, Nitto Invo - which I'm running).
You won't rub with the Super Sports, but I have no exp. with the R888's.


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You will not rub.
Those are perfect offsets for an aggressive track setup.

I am running the following:

19x10 +29 (245/35/19)
19x11 +22 (305/30/19)

You can actually run a 305 with a 19x11 +25, but you'll need a more rounded sidewall if you're lowered (ie. Michelin PS2, RE-11, Nitto Invo).

Hope this helps.
Thanks! What tires do you run?
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Thanks! What tires do you run?
I added a bit more to the post after your response My bad.

I'm running Nitto Invos and love them.
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Update!

These TÜV guys drive me crazy. There is no "Gutachten" vor the VMR710 for BMW. Only for Audi and VW.

I decided to switch to HRE.
Here is the new setup:
HRE P40S 19"
Front: 9.5x9 ET 22
Rear: 10.5x9 ET 25

Tires: I called Yokohama today. The ADVAN08 are allowed in Germany! Now the bad thing: They don't sell them here. They must be imported from Switzerland.
Maybe the ADV08 are the better choice. R888's must be very bad on wet streets.

Size remains:
Front: 265/30 R19
Rear: 295/30 R19

Anyone driving this setup?
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Tire size is, of course just one part of the total suspension setup, and I know nothing of yours. But, for track use, you might be better served by decreasing the f/r size differential rather than increasing it. Other things equal, the increased stagger will alter the handling balance towards more understeer, which most folks do not desire. Running the same size on all corners has proven beneficial in most BMW applications. But it's an individual preference.
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Tire size is, of course just one part of the total suspension setup, and I know nothing of yours. But, for track use, you might be better served by decreasing the f/r size differential rather than increasing it. Other things equal, the increased stagger will alter the handling balance towards more understeer, which most folks do not desire. Running the same size on all corners has proven beneficial in most BMW applications. But it's an individual preference.
That's pretty interesting
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Update!

These TÜV guys drive me crazy. There is no "Gutachten" vor the VMR710 for BMW. Only for Audi and VW.

I decided to switch to HRE.
Here is the new setup:
HRE P40S 19"
Front: 9.5x9 ET 22
Rear: 10.5x9 ET 25

Tires: I called Yokohama today. The ADVAN08 are allowed in Germany! Now the bad thing: They don't sell them here. They must be imported from Switzerland.
Maybe the ADV08 are the better choice. R888's must be very bad on wet streets.

Size remains:
Front: 265/30 R19
Rear: 295/30 R19

Anyone driving this setup?
I recently ran:
275/30/19 front
295/30/19 rear

no rubbing. Yoko Advan Sport.

I was also running a 20mm offset front and rear, never had any problems.
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Update!

These TÜV guys drive me crazy. There is no "Gutachten" vor the VMR710 for BMW. Only for Audi and VW.

I decided to switch to HRE.
Here is the new setup:
HRE P40S 19"
Front: 9.5x9 ET 22
Rear: 10.5x9 ET 25

Tires: I called Yokohama today. The ADVAN08 are allowed in Germany! Now the bad thing: They don't sell them here. They must be imported from Switzerland.
Maybe the ADV08 are the better choice. R888's must be very bad on wet streets.

Size remains:
Front: 265/30 R19
Rear: 295/30 R19

Anyone driving this setup?

awesome wheel choice. P40S wheels were the best thing I've done to this car. I have a nearly identical setup, only my rear offset is 19x10.5 ET 22. I had to have my fender pulled out to fit a 295 PS2. I don't have any good pictures of it, but here's one that somebody took:



some tires are easier to fit than others. the AD08 should fit. One of the members here, Fastrack, is running the same exact rear offset on 295 AD08's and he doesn't rub.
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I recently ran:
275/30/19 front
295/30/19 rear

no rubbing. Yoko Advan Sport.

I was also running a 20mm offset front and rear, never had any problems.
Thanks man.
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awesome wheel choice. P40S wheels were the best thing I've done to this car. I have a nearly identical setup, only my rear offset is 19x10.5 ET 22. I had to have my fender pulled out to fit a 295 PS2. I don't have any good pictures of it, but here's one that somebody took:



some tires are easier to fit than others. the AD08 should fit. One of the members here, Fastrack, is running the same exact rear offset on 295 AD08's and he doesn't rub.
Awesome. Thanks for the pic. That really helps!
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Update!

These TÜV guys drive me crazy. There is no "Gutachten" vor the VMR710 for BMW. Only for Audi and VW.

I decided to switch to HRE.
Here is the new setup:
HRE P40S 19"
Front: 9.5x9 ET 22
Rear: 10.5x9 ET 25

Tires: I called Yokohama today. The ADVAN08 are allowed in Germany! Now the bad thing: They don't sell them here. They must be imported from Switzerland.
Maybe the ADV08 are the better choice. R888's must be very bad on wet streets.

Size remains:
Front: 265/30 R19
Rear: 295/30 R19

Anyone driving this setup?
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Update!

These TÜV guys drive me crazy. There is no "Gutachten" vor the VMR710 for BMW. Only for Audi and VW.

I decided to switch to HRE.
Here is the new setup:
HRE P40S 19"
Front: 9.5x9 ET 22
Rear: 10.5x9 ET 25

Tires: I called Yokohama today. The ADVAN08 are allowed in Germany! Now the bad thing: They don't sell them here. They must be imported from Switzerland.
Maybe the ADV08 are the better choice. R888's must be very bad on wet streets.

Size remains:
Front: 265/30 R19
Rear: 295/30 R19

Anyone driving this setup?
I'm almost identical but regular p40 and believe +22 offset all around. running the advan ad08's. love those as dual performers, think they're well suited for that application.
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I'm almost identical but regular p40 and believe +22 offset all around. running the advan ad08's. love those as dual performers, think they're well suited for that application.
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Did you sell your FI?
No i didn't. These are and will be my daily drive wheels.
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