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05-03-2011, 03:48 PM | #23 | |
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The adult stuff in this thread is making decisions that can get US soldiers killed. Thanks for showing us you don't have anything adult to add about making decisions that put US soldiers in harm's way. The rest of the thread is a joke, just like your posts. See the "Tags" at the bottom of the thread that says "it's a joke". Last edited by 11Series; 05-03-2011 at 04:09 PM. |
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05-03-2011, 04:20 PM | #24 | |
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There's no need for video...the word of non-aligned individuals would have been sufficient.
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05-03-2011, 04:33 PM | #25 | |
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Why? If Tony Blair or similar were invited, they would be dismissed as our poodles by anyone with a conspiracy mindset. If we invited Ahmadinijad or similar, we give our enemies a free and open platform to bad talk us at our own invite. Do you trust Ahmajinidad or similar? You seem to have this odd belief that conspiracy crazies are swayed by facts, yet you seem completely unswayed by facts yourself. It is an interesting contradiction. |
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05-03-2011, 04:42 PM | #27 |
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It is clearly not beyond the capacity of a US President, to say nothing of his subordinates, to misrepresent the truth. The scope and nature of the things about which Presidents will lie is unlimited. Osama's death, given the significance of such an occurrence, is certainly something the government would lie about if they instead captured, but did not kill him. Or, alternately, just to posit another scenario, found his long dead remains somewhere. Today, I read on ABC or CNN (don't recall which) that in addition to Osama's remains and assorted documentation, our forces left the compound with an individual who was in the compound when our guys arrived. Who was that individual? A spy we had placed inside Osama's cabal? Another Al Qaeda leader/official? Finally, I read too that the decisions surrounding the potential release of a photo are being left to the CIA. Now where is the sense in that? It's a damn photo of a dead man. What special talents have the CIA to play a role in determining how, when, whether to release a photo of him? They couldn't have any skill in this area any more than, say a professor Islamic culture or one or more of our diplomats in the Arab world. They do have skill, however, at clouding issues, fabricating supposed realities, keeping secrets, and obfuscating the truth; it's what they do.
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05-03-2011, 05:22 PM | #29 | |
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05-03-2011, 05:31 PM | #30 | |
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Puh-lease.
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05-03-2011, 06:37 PM | #31 | |
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What problem do you have with an entire crew of a US battleship, and 45 Special Forces that you think they would collaborate with Obama in an elaborate hoax? Do you seriously think there is a special Obama loyalist faction of the US military that is made up of just hardcore Democrats that has their own ships and their own special ops force? You are getting deeper and deeper into Crazyland. |
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05-03-2011, 07:25 PM | #32 | |
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Were you there? Do you know what they have seen or havent seen? No? Okay then...
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05-03-2011, 07:27 PM | #33 |
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It would appear that your standard for determining facts depends on you personally witnessing an event. That is a mighty high standard and not one used by normal humans. Your philosophy must be very limiting for you.
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05-03-2011, 07:37 PM | #34 | |
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And your standard for determining facts depends on being spoon fed by mass media, same media that is spoon fed by the White House?? What standards for determining facts do you depend on?
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05-03-2011, 08:31 PM | #35 | |
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You must be right, because Osama Bin Laden is alive and right outside your house right now! Quick, grab all your junk and flee right now to Canada like you promised! What ever you do, Do NOT believe that Obama got Osama, because then you won't check behind every bush, rock, and tree between MD and Canada. Then BAM, Osama will take you out just when you least expect it. Don't go back to Rockville, Osama will be there waiting for you. Crazyland. |
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I don't trust people that pull random shit out of thin air, only later defend them self's with same weak joke they repeat over and over because they have no brain to come up with new material. ![]() But nice try though. Next time try to answer a question with ... at least semi interesting and relevant information. ![]()
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05-03-2011, 08:45 PM | #37 | |
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05-03-2011, 08:46 PM | #38 | |
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Naaah, I get secret transmissions from Command Central, they tell me what I need to know. But thanks, I can see from your personal example that a tin foil hat is the best way to go.
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05-03-2011, 09:06 PM | #40 | |
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The government -- the CIA, the military and the White House -- is staffed, at the highest levels, by incredibly intelligent folks. Of that there can be little question. Minimally, there's a ton of legally trained people in such positions. That they didn't anticipate there would be questions raised about the veracity of their claim of Osama's death would be very disappointing to me. Accordingly, there must have been a reason for their not taking any action to mitigate the doubt regarding their claim. In this particular situation, if the claim is true, there was nothing especially challenging about presenting a body to demonstrate its accuracy. Finally, though you want to make me out to be a "crazy" person, the fact is you've not presented one line of argument to show that the man is dead. At best, all you've offered are a set of ad hominen inferences, which even they you failed to support with a cogent set of facts, to say nothing of the fact that those inferences don't actually address the point at hand. You, however, are not alone. Others posting in this thread have sought to deny that Osama may not be dead via arguments based upon red herrings, question begging, and personal attacks. It's your right to believe what you're told by your government, and I respect your freedom to acquiesce accordingly. It's my right to question what they say when there's little evidence to support what they say.
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I must be getting old and senile, because i dont see his answer. Be a good lad and show where oldarmy provided me with an answer.
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05-04-2011, 04:49 AM | #44 | |
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Well that's what I think. I think there is a possibility that Obama's account about what happened may be true. However, there is a possibility that Bin Laden was already dead or that he is still alive and they are holding him right now. The fact is that every newspaper and news channel have shown pictures of Obama making official announcements and showed pictures of the compound. That makes the whole thing seem real, but it doesn't actually mean it's true. People are starting with an assumption that the official story is true and then working all the other details out later e.g. was Bin Laden armed or not? We don't even know if he was there! There are already conflicting stories coming out that Pakistan gave intel in 2009 about that compound yet America are saying they couldn't trust Pakistan. I guarantee people will take the U.S story over Pakistan because to most people it is a backward country full of terrorists and America is the world policeman always truthful.
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