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      04-26-2011, 06:00 PM   #67
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BMW did not give specific reasons for my engine failure, but they told me today that they are replacing the "short block", using the original heads, under warranty, of course.

I understand this will take some time, I do have a "back up car" that's not as fun as the M3 but beats the loaner car. I passed on the loaner & hope to have my car back...by Father's Day!
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      04-26-2011, 06:09 PM   #68
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BMW did not give specific reasons for my engine failure, but they told me today that they are replacing the "short block", using the original heads, under warranty, of course.

I understand this will take some time, I do have a "back up car" that's not as fun as the M3 but beats the loaner car. I passed on the loaner & hope to have my car back...by Father's Day!
Wow they told you it would be that long before you got the M back?
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      04-26-2011, 08:18 PM   #69
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Wow they told you it would be that long before you got the M back?
They didn't give me a specific time frame, I am probably just accepting a worst case scenario. I read somewhere else, where someone having a complete engine replaced was out his car for 2 months or so.

It took them 1 1/2 weeks just to get an answer, so it wouldn't surprise me if it takes at least another 3-4 before returning my car. Hoping sooner, though.
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This is mad scary. My E92 has 45k miles, NO warranty and been involved in 2 light front end accidents (Hit a deer and spun on black ice hitting a guard rail) This makes me feel like my car has a death sentence at about 55k miles. And I was thinking about SC'ing the SOB too with a ESS VR1..... that aint happening now.
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      04-28-2011, 04:39 AM   #71
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This is mad scary. My E92 has 45k miles, NO warranty and been involved in 2 light front end accidents (Hit a deer and spun on black ice hitting a guard rail) This makes me feel like my car has a death sentence at about 55k miles. And I was thinking about SC'ing the SOB too with a ESS VR1..... that aint happening now.
I don't think we are about to see a raft of engines blowing up anytime soon. This is reminicent of the internet wide IMS issues of the Porsche 996/997.1 which probably has 'more' weight behind it but is still blown out of proportion.
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true, if this is the third case we are aware about in America and Europe, then that is a low percentage...lets say there have been 100 blown motors. That is still less than 1%...have either of the guys on here been performing mid service oil changes versus the dealership 18,000 mile drain intervals? I feel for $200 or so every 8-9K miles is a piece of mind for a motor has advanced as ours. I feel every owner on here should do an out of pocket oil change every 9K regardless of free maintenance...
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      04-28-2011, 09:52 AM   #73
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true, if this is the third case we are aware about in America and Europe, then that is a low percentage...lets say there have been 100 blown motors. That is still less than 1%...have either of the guys on here been performing mid service oil changes versus the dealership 18,000 mile drain intervals? I feel for $200 or so every 8-9K miles is a piece of mind for a motor has advnanced as ours. I feel every owner on here should do an out of pocket oil change every 9K regardless of free maintenance...
I completely agree that we should change our oil AT LEAST every 7500K. This is not a high price to pay for a better piece of mind. That is what Dinan suggests and their oil change is reasonably priced. Our BMW oil is not cheap!
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^not cheap and takes almost 10 bloody quarts..just like the s85..
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      04-28-2011, 12:54 PM   #75
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true, if this is the third case we are aware about in America and Europe, then that is a low percentage...lets say there have been 100 blown motors. That is still less than 1%...have either of the guys on here been performing mid service oil changes versus the dealership 18,000 mile drain intervals? I feel for $200 or so every 8-9K miles is a piece of mind for a motor has advnanced as ours. I feel every owner on here should do an out of pocket oil change every 9K regardless of free maintenance...
Based on?

Also, the longest the computer has let me go is 14k IIRC between changes.
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Based on?

Also, the longest the computer has let me go is 14k IIRC between changes.
I would say based on the following:

* Financial well being (i.e. can you afford to buy another engine w/o breaking a sweat)
* Risk taking threshold
* How long you are planning on keeping your car
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I would say based on the following:

* Financial well being (i.e. can you afford to buy another engine w/o breaking a sweat)
* Risk taking threshold
* How long you are planning on keeping your car
What I meant was, what do you base the 9k oil change on? What makes you associate oil change interval with a blown engine? What evidence do you have that BMW's oil change interval is inadequate?
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i had on oil change done when it called for it, when I got it back after they reset it. It said 18k miles until next service, i am pretty sure??
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im not saying they are related, just that it is good preventative maintenance in general..
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Wow... that looks horrible..

Sorry that happened and best wishes getting it fixed.

I change my oil every 7K just to be safe. 15K is too long IMO. But next change I am going to send the oil out to Blackstone labs and have them analyize it to see whats inside.

Being that I have a 12/07 build, all of these bearing issues scare me... Luckily in 31,000 miles I've never thrown a check engine light or had any engine issues..
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So after some time new engine and new clutch is on the way. In two weeks should be back in M again.
BMW dealer made 50% discount on new engine. So i guess is not the win in this situacion,but not the worst becouse the car was out of warranty. And this discount is solidarity between dealer and me. BMW in germany did nothing to this. They just said it's out of warranty and did'nt even properly explained what caused that engine failure.
Engine from ebay with no garanties stands about the same price as new one with 50% off from dealer.
The new clutch is like free of charge for me. I insisted coz don't want that chain effect

Anyways can't wait to get back to M, and maybe '11 engine will be running smoother
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50% is better than nothing but I wonder how much that will cost. I bet it is still a hefty price tag.
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In one of your vids, I saw the gas light on. Are you doing this on purpose to save weight? Fuel starvation can def. lead to catastrophic failure when the engine is pushing as hard as you did on the vids, especially if you do it all the time. Do yourself a favor and take down those vids before someone who works for BMW decides to submit it....
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50% is better than nothing but I wonder how much that will cost. I bet it is still a hefty price tag.
10,000 euro at minimum.
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Mid-market rates: 2011-04-29 15:49 UTC

10,000.00 EUR = 14,822.03 USD
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So after some time new engine and new clutch is on the way. In two weeks should be back in M again.
BMW dealer made 50% discount on new engine. So i guess is not the win in this situacion,but not the worst becouse the car was out of warranty. And this discount is solidarity between dealer and me. BMW in germany did nothing to this. They just said it's out of warranty and did'nt even properly explained what caused that engine failure.
Engine from ebay with no garanties stands about the same price as new one with 50% off from dealer.
The new clutch is like free of charge for me. I insisted coz don't want that chain effect

Anyways can't wait to get back to M, and maybe '11 engine will be running smoother
WHAT DID BMW SAY WAS THE CAUSE OF THE PISTON THROUGH THE BLOCK??
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So after some time new engine and new clutch is on the way. In two weeks should be back in M again.
BMW dealer made 50% discount on new engine. So i guess is not the win in this situacion,but not the worst becouse the car was out of warranty. And this discount is solidarity between dealer and me. BMW in germany did nothing to this. They just said it's out of warranty and did'nt even properly explained what caused that engine failure.
Engine from ebay with no garanties stands about the same price as new one with 50% off from dealer.
The new clutch is like free of charge for me. I insisted coz don't want that chain effect

Anyways can't wait to get back to M, and maybe '11 engine will be running smoother
All in all, sounds like this was taken care of pretty quickly!

Good luck & sounds like you'll be back in business soon!
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Good on ya mate. Glad you go to some resolution. Enjoy the new engine and do whatever you can to NOT be a repeat customer.
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