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      04-25-2011, 03:22 PM   #155
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      04-25-2011, 03:24 PM   #156
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      04-25-2011, 03:42 PM   #157
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There is a 30 day gauranteed satisfaction. Where are you at with Michelin on this?
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      04-25-2011, 03:46 PM   #158
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There is a 30 day gauranteed satisfaction. Where are you at with Michelin on this?
Haha I don't think they'll take it back. This was from a single track day. I bought it at tirerack.com
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      04-25-2011, 04:57 PM   #159
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What track were you at? Was it Road Atlanta? RA is not that tough on tires.
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      04-25-2011, 05:54 PM   #160
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Pretty much any true street tire without a track alignment will look like this after some tracking.
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      04-25-2011, 06:10 PM   #161
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Have you called Michelin's customer service number yet?
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      04-25-2011, 09:59 PM   #162
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In spite 4sevens PSS epic fail I'm going to stage these in. I ordered a set of 275/35/19s for the stock 220M rears.
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      04-26-2011, 06:58 AM   #163
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Have you called Michelin's customer service number yet?
I don't see how you could expect Michelin to give any comeback on that tyre....the way its worn it looks like its been driven down the road sideways.
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      04-26-2011, 07:16 AM   #164
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I don't see how you could expect Michelin to give any comeback on that tyre....the way its worn it looks like its been driven down the road sideways.
It is a good cautionary tale of what can happen when a street tire goes to the track. Not that this always happens, but you can definitely kill a street tire in one track day.

4sevens, just looking at the wear pattern it seems a little more negative camber would be a good idea. Outside edge is cords, everything to the center is about bald, but continuing across, by the time you get to the inside shoulder it's 4-5/32".
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      04-26-2011, 08:38 AM   #165
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It is a good cautionary tale of what can happen when a street tire goes to the track. Not that this always happens, but you can definitely kill a street tire in one track day.

4sevens, just looking at the wear pattern it seems a little more negative camber would be a good idea. Outside edge is cords, everything to the center is about bald, but continuing across, by the time you get to the inside shoulder it's 4-5/32".
I think this is an extreme case, especially for a tire like this and how its marketed to the public.
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      04-26-2011, 10:21 AM   #166
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I think this is an extreme case, especially for a tire like this and how its marketed to the public.
I agree with this... there is NO WAY that Michelin would release the successor to the PS2 that would perform like what is depicted above. Besides, all of the track videos, etc that you see for this tire show no signs of this issue. Either a bad set of tires, something out of whack with the car, something wrong with the tire pressure, or he just really pushes the car past its limit and is an amazing driver.

The PSS should hold up better than a PS2 and I have never seen a PS2 do this in one day.
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I agree with this... there is NO WAY that Michelin would release the successor to the PS2 that would perform like what is depicted above. Besides, all of the track videos, etc that you see for this tire show no signs of this issue. Either a bad set of tires, something out of whack with the car, something wrong with the tire pressure, or he just really pushes the car past its limit and is an amazing driver.

The PSS should hold up better than a PS2 and I have never seen a PS2 do this in one day.
I was at the track on Saturday and ran my street tires, which are PS2s because we had a lot of rain in the morning. I run around -2 camber and wear was pretty even. I understand that these are NOT track tires so I was not expecting them to be spectacular after some abuse, but they held up at least.
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      04-26-2011, 10:30 AM   #168
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I agree with this... there is NO WAY that Michelin would release the successor to the PS2 that would perform like what is depicted above. Besides, all of the track videos, etc that you see for this tire show no signs of this issue. Either a bad set of tires, something out of whack with the car, something wrong with the tire pressure, or he just really pushes the car past its limit and is an amazing driver.
The PSS should hold up better than a PS2 and I have never seen a PS2 do this in one day.
Right...

More like overdriving the car and/or driving it with a bad alignment
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I think this is an extreme case, especially for a tire like this and how its marketed to the public.
I agree it is an extreme case. I didn't want to imply that if you take a street tire to the track, this WILL happen, but I did want to make people aware that it CAN happen.

If the car is understeering for example, ease up a little bit on your corner entry speeds, otherwise your tires are going to die.
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      04-28-2011, 02:30 PM   #170
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Can 255f / 275r fit properly on the stock 220 19'' rim?
no issues on my RAC wheels. Had them mounted today.
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      04-28-2011, 02:55 PM   #171
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Had Supersport in 245/265 19 !!!! Fantastic choice, a very good tire!!!
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      05-05-2011, 06:25 AM   #172
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      05-05-2011, 07:28 AM   #173
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hmm interesting subject, ive just won a michelin competition " Become a michelin tyre tester for the day", i will be attending the launch of the PSS tyre and testing the tyre to destruction all day with lambo, r8, m3, rs audi's, im really looking forward to the event which is this saturday, i will report back with my impression of these tyres..... arhh also i won a complete set of pss in the size of my choice!!!

i will be beating on these pss ALL DAY, so im really looking forward to posting some first hand experience :-)

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On the first day of the 2011 Tire Rack One Lap of America, the first challenge was the wet (with sprinklers) 200' skidpad g-load competition.

Before the start, Brock Yates Jr. in a 550 BMHP BMW X5 M took to the skid pad to demonstrate how to do the run... First two green flag timed laps counter clockwise and then two laps clockwise. Lowest elapsed time (and therefore highest grip) wins. He set a baseline just over .80 g.

This very competition set off with the top-seeded cars going first. This included Modified Subarus, EVOs and GTRs...

Our car was #18 and it came our turn. I was the first in the entire field to beat Brock's score with a g reading of .826. We took first place in this competition, briefly leading the entire event.

PILOT SUPER SPORTS are REMARKABLE in the wet... They seem to be holding up very well in the overall competition this week as well.

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Michelin are releasing the 265/35/19 June 1st. Holding out for them. Probably take a few weeks to hit stores.
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Michelin are releasing the 265/35/19 June 1st. Holding out for them. Probably take a few weeks to hit stores.
Awesome info! I'll hold off until buying next month. Where did you hear about this news?
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