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      04-21-2011, 01:44 PM   #133
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seriously, you got some alignment problems man and youre overdriving the crap out of the car
I just checked the alignment and they are within spec. I just increased the front negative camber to the max -1.5 compensate. I'm not overdriving any more than what I've done in the past. I've been to this particular track about a dozen times without problems on other tires.
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      04-21-2011, 02:07 PM   #134
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^Did you ever track the PS2s, if so, how long did those last you on the track?
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      04-21-2011, 02:10 PM   #135
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^Did you ever track the PS2s, if so, how long did those last you on the track?
No I have not. They are a street tire - PSS's claim to have 50% more track use compared to the PS2's with race rubber compound on the outside shoulders.

I've always used rs3's or ad08's
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      04-21-2011, 07:59 PM   #136
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Can anyone with aggressive street use chime in with pics and amount of mileage?
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      04-21-2011, 08:13 PM   #137
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At the end of the day this is still a street tire.
I def think you need some more camber. Were you at Road Atlanta?
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      04-22-2011, 01:44 AM   #138
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I got the pilot super sports
This tire is the real deal
Went from OEM PS2's to PSS
Better ride, quieter on the freeway, absorbs bumps with less drama and chassis shake
Not sure about handling yet, will report back when I have more miles and they're broken in
They're just so smoooooooth
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      04-22-2011, 04:10 AM   #139
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As I said several days back, my friend and I brought our M3 to "fun spot" for comparison and did some aggressive driving. Since our cars are quite similar, I say it's fair to compare.

Friend's: PS2 800mile + 2months old
2009 M3 coupe with Eibach Springs and ZCP wheels
255/35/19 and 285/30/19

Mine: PSS 250mile + 7days old
2011 M3 coupe with ZCP everything stock,
255/35/19 and 275/35/19

PSS definitely has stiffer sidewalls and stickier compound than PS2, and I guess these make PSS easier to drive in extreme condition. Difference between them was very clear when getting out of the corners; PSS has more kick from the rear where PS2 rear tires went sideways. Turning in also feels nicer than PS2. I was being able to go with confidence maybe because of stiffer sidewalls, or its compound, I don't know. PS2's softer sidewalls make street driving quite comfortable, but in the track, I didn't like it so much. Only downside of PSS for me was difficulty of finding its limit. Somewhat I was not very sure where the limit of PSS was although PS2's was easy to find. PSS sometimes gripped much more than I expect, sometimes as much as PS2, so I perhaps have to get used to how to use it.

Their tire wear seemed the same. It's clean and not greasy at all. Since we just drove our cars slightly over an hour or so, I couldn't find a big difference. Of course both tires looked healthy and still had enough rubber. Maybe we didn't push tires too hard, or we are too gentle to push tires to its limit, who knows. However, if we drive them on the track at the same speed, then PSS may lasts longer, IMO.


If you want non-R compound track tires, I strongly recommend Pirelli PZero Trofeo. I have driven it only once, but I was seriously impressed. Even old Pirelli PZero Corsa System will do much better job than PSS on the track. PSS is indeed better than PS2 in almost every aspects and might be the best street tires now, but this doesn't mean PSS is the best tire on the track.
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      04-22-2011, 04:27 AM   #140
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Hi all,

I'm currently on PS2s (245s front/ 265s rear) and they are wearing out fast. I'm going to replace it with PSS but I was told there is no 265 for the rear.

The question is would the car feel heavy if I change to 255s front, 275s rear? I once swapped to Advan AD08 (255s f/ 275s r) and the whole car felt heavy to steer.

Please advise. Thanks.
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      04-22-2011, 05:16 AM   #141
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Hi all,

I'm currently on PS2s (245s front/ 265s rear) and they are wearing out fast. I'm going to replace it with PSS but I was told there is no 265 for the rear.

The question is would the car feel heavy if I change to 255s front, 275s rear? I once swapped to Advan AD08 (255s f/ 275s r) and the whole car felt heavy to steer.

Please advise. Thanks.
At very low speed, like in the parking lot, steering PSS is heavier than PS2, but when you speed over 25mph, I bet you won't notice the difference. Good luck.
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      04-22-2011, 02:11 PM   #142
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As I said several days back, my friend and I brought our M3 to "fun spot" for comparison and did some aggressive driving. Since our cars are quite similar, I say it's fair to compare.

Friend's: PS2 800mile + 2months old
2009 M3 coupe with Eibach Springs and ZCP wheels
255/35/19 and 285/30/19

Mine: PSS 250mile + 7days old
2011 M3 coupe with ZCP everything stock,
255/35/19 and 275/35/19

PSS definitely has stiffer sidewalls and stickier compound than PS2, and I guess these make PSS easier to drive in extreme condition. Difference between them was very clear when getting out of the corners; PSS has more kick from the rear where PS2 rear tires went sideways. Turning in also feels nicer than PS2. I was being able to go with confidence maybe because of stiffer sidewalls, or its compound, I don't know. PS2's softer sidewalls make street driving quite comfortable, but in the track, I didn't like it so much. Only downside of PSS for me was difficulty of finding its limit. Somewhat I was not very sure where the limit of PSS was although PS2's was easy to find. PSS sometimes gripped much more than I expect, sometimes as much as PS2, so I perhaps have to get used to how to use it.

Their tire wear seemed the same. It's clean and not greasy at all. Since we just drove our cars slightly over an hour or so, I couldn't find a big difference. Of course both tires looked healthy and still had enough rubber. Maybe we didn't push tires too hard, or we are too gentle to push tires to its limit, who knows. However, if we drive them on the track at the same speed, then PSS may lasts longer, IMO.


If you want non-R compound track tires, I strongly recommend Pirelli PZero Trofeo. I have driven it only once, but I was seriously impressed. Even old Pirelli PZero Corsa System will do much better job than PSS on the track. PSS is indeed better than PS2 in almost every aspects and might be the best street tires now, but this doesn't mean PSS is the best tire on the track.
PSS is ridiculously good man, I definitely notice way more acceleration out of corners than before. PS2 goes sideways PSS goes forward, lol
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      04-22-2011, 02:43 PM   #143
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good to hear that opinion
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      04-23-2011, 01:03 AM   #144
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I'm currently on PS2s (245s front/ 265s rear) and they are wearing out fast. I'm going to replace it with PSS but I was told there is no 265 for the rear.
what profile are you looking for? I am running PSS 265/30-19 in the rear on my 335
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what profile are you looking for? I am running PSS 265/30-19 in the rear on my 335
As OEM as possible. I would rather stick with the original 245f/265r but according to tire supplier there isn't 265 at this present moment.
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      04-23-2011, 09:32 AM   #146
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This is my plan:
18” TE37 SL with Super Sports/TPMS
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As OEM as possible. I would rather stick with the original 245f/265r but according to tire supplier there isn't 265 at this present moment.
I had 245/35f and 275/35r on my OEM wheels and that size worked well (different brand of tire). That is an option instead of 265/35 rears.
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Are there any PSS sizes that will work with the OEM 19" wheels and that are currently available?
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      04-23-2011, 05:47 PM   #149
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Please any pics of 295/30/19???

If not got to go with Yoko.
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265/35/19 are available in the UK, I'm running them on mine. So if they're not available with you yet, they won't be that far away.
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I had 245/35f and 275/35r on my OEM wheels and that size worked well (different brand of tire). That is an option instead of 265/35 rears.
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Are there any PSS sizes that will work with the OEM 19" wheels and that are currently available?
See my post above...
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So a few members have reported back with the 255/275 combo on ZCP wheels. Is anyone running those widths on the 220M wheels?
+1

Can 255f / 275r fit properly on the stock 220 19'' rim?
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      04-25-2011, 08:45 AM   #153
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Can 255f / 275r fit properly on the stock 220 19'' rim?
absolutely. many have done it.
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      04-25-2011, 01:30 PM   #154
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I placed my order for 255/35/19 and 275/35/19 to replace my PS2s in the same sizes for my RAC RG63s.
I'll post up a review when they go on next week.
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