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      04-07-2011, 05:48 PM   #23
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i think the kid deserved it and the mother should be ashamed (instead she went on GMA)
8 year old kid deserved to be peper sprayed? Are you fucking kidding me?

NO 8 year old deserves to be pepper sprayed. There are other ways to deal with little shits, but its definitely NOT pepper spray
He understood that there were to be consequences for his actions. Why should he be held to any lower standards?

Just because the kid could easily be over powered doesn't mean that officers must put themselves in any sort of danger unnecessarily.

What would have been excessive force would have been them tackling him to the floor. They neutralized him without physical contact.
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Please, I am sure you would be that same person that said the cop shouldn’t have attacked the poor child. The mother would have said that nobody should have laid a hand on my child, and there would have been a lawsuit. Jesus Christ the country is getting raped but p*ssies and attorneys.
I would be the first one to put my kid in check, trust me. I never said anything about suing anyone. Kids need to be put in check, but not with pepper spray.

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You're are trip bro. No one ever said a taser would be ok. I heard 1 out of 3 people need to go get checked out for problems arising from getting tasered....of course that is not a smart option. Subdue him? You mean tackle his ass....and you don't think he would get injured from that alone??? Your talking out of your ass...This was a great solution. Period.
Tackling? What the fuck is this, football?



How many posters in this thread have kids?
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yes, i read the article and watched the video. it does not matter what he said or did, pepper spray is NOT a way to deal with the situation like that. by your logic, it would also be OK to use a taser, if he said that he deserved it?

my god, a kid with a stick!!! how fucking dangerous!!! HE WILL KILL ALL OF US!!!
are you serious? he is 8. 1 adult can subdue him. no need for pepper spray.

you can always handcuff a little fucker like that to a light pole for everyone to see.

How many of you have ever been pepper sprayed by cops (not some over the counter pepper spray)? Do you KNOW what it feels like?

Also most of you here are talking out our your ass. Until you get your own kid and know anything about raising them, STFU.
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an 8 year old kid is not hard to subdue... you might get a bruise or two.. perhaps a cut.. but there really wouldn't be any real danger. Wtf do you expect as a cop???
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He understood that there were to be consequences for his actions. Why should he be held to any lower standards?

Just because the kid could easily be over powered doesn't mean that officers must put themselves in any sort of danger unnecessarily.

What would have been excessive force would have been them tackling him to the floor. They neutralized him without physical contact.
Bro, danger? the kid had a friggin stick...

Tell me, if you were babysitting a little kid... he picks up a stick, "IMA KILL YOU!!!"

**Hold on let me get my pepper spray to subdue the guy...

Yeah, right...
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I would be the first one to put my kid in check, trust me. I never said anything about suing anyone. Kids need to be put in check, but not with pepper spray.



Tackling? What the fuck is this, football?

How do you think they are going to subdue him, walk up and say hey turn around for me please so I can cuff you....OK

Silly....
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an 8 year old kid is not hard to subdue... you might get a bruise or two.. perhaps a cut.. but there really wouldn't be any real danger. Wtf do you expect as a cop???
Ok, sure a bruise, maybe a couple cuts, maybe he'd trip and break an ankle... Instead now only his eyes burned for 30 minutes...
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Ok, sure a bruise, maybe a couple cuts, maybe he'd trip and break an ankle... Instead now only his eyes burned for 30 minutes...
referring to the cop w/ the bruises. (Worst case)
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How do you think they are going to subdue him, walk up and say hey turn around for me please so I can cuff you....OK

Silly....
You ever see a kid throwing a mad tantrum in a middle of the street/store/whatever? Did you see what fed-up parents usually do?
Grab kids arm and drag him away kicking and screaming. Are there any injuries? NO!

8 year old kid is probably 50-60lbs. Are you really telling me that no adult or cops in BULLETPROOF VESTS, for that matter, could not come up to him and grab his arm?

And I am yet to hear an answer to my question: How many of you have kids?
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Kid deserved it - he's lucky he wasn't tased. Society is bring overrun with pussies these days.
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Bro, danger? the kid had a friggin stick...

Tell me, if you were babysitting a little kid... he picks up a stick, "IMA KILL YOU!!!"

**Hold on let me get my pepper spray to subdue the guy...

Yeah, right...
I thought the article said he had a knife at the end of the stick.
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I thought the article said he had a knife at the end of the stick.
no. there was no knife.
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solefald,

i've been pepper sprayed before, actually maced during training - its wears off. Better than being tased, or being tackled which could lead to potential injuries.

don't care if he was 8 years old, he deserved it and i agree w/ others that the officer acted accordingly.
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an 8 year old kid is not hard to subdue... you might get a bruise or two.. perhaps a cut.. but there really wouldn't be any real danger. Wtf do you expect as a cop???
Can you explain why the officer should have to get hurt? What precisely did he do wrong that he needs to get beat with the stick and possibly cut because a little brat won't listen and is trying to hurt people.

That attitude is precisely what's wrong with the world today. Good luck - hope everyone who thinks the officer overreacted gets a kid like that of their own...or perhaps, better yet, gets a kid like that after them and then "subdues" them and hopefully then gets sued by the parents for not having special training to deal with their little brat.

Seriously - this bugs me. I wish the officer did a little more, really teach the kid a lesson. What is lacking in society is corporal punishment nowadays - and we're all reaping the benefits of that by having little (and now grown up) idiots running around, knowing nobody can do anything to them, even if they are misbehaving.
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pepper spray = developed as a NON LETHAL means to subdue people to comply.

kid acting up, threatened others, had a make-shift weapon = cop used a non lethal method to subdue him.

in the end...no one got hurt and the kid was left with a irritated face for a while.


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Kid got exactly what he deserved. Cop physically restraining the kid and risk getting stabbed in the eye? - forget about it.

Mom's reaction to file a complaint against the police action? Well that says A LOT regading how this kid turned out the way he did. Mama's untouchable precious snow flake ya know
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I am done arguing this shit with a bunch of people who just turned 16 and driving dadddy's cars or don't have kids.

get back to me when you get your own kids. kthnxbye.
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And who knows...maybe the kid likes spicy foods...
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I am done arguing this shit with a bunch of people who just turned 16 and driving dadddy's cars or don't have kids.

get back to me when you get your own kids. kthnxbye.
You sound just like the mother in this case, my poor baby was pepper sprayed for being a jackass and potentially harming other people but he is my snow flake...nothing should happen to him and he doesn't deserve it


And on another note, it doesn't matter if I have 1 kid, 10 kids or no kids, this is a case of using common sense - we got an outcome with no injury's. Perfectly handled, imo of course...and many others.

but anyways, really, who cares, we are all entitled to our opinion.

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+1. Yes. Common sense was used to make the decision. Not emotion.
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I am done arguing this shit with a bunch of people who just turned 16 and driving dadddy's cars or don't have kids.

get back to me when you get your own kids. kthnxbye.
LOL, you mad bro?

and you think i'm 16? and driving daddy's car?

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were the cops also 4'2" 75lbs? I guess I could see that, then. I mean, he is 8 years old after all lol... but i guess it would simply look bad to just run up to the kid and slap the fat off his face (probably the best course of action).

this is from a study for the nypd:

The Patrol Guide advises officers to avoid using pepper spray against persons who appear to be in frail health, young children, women believed to be pregnant, or persons with known respiratory conditions.

and one can read further the studies which corroborate the above conclusion that pepper spray's effects are more deleterious to children than adults, and thus more likely to cause more long term damage.


The bigger question: why is the mom defending such crappy juvenile behavior from her crappy son?
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