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View Poll Results: ***OFFICIAL BIMMERPOST PHOTO CONTEST #32 - "Product Photography" VOTING THREAD***
UdubBadger - "///M Sport" 5 9.43%
juddholland - "New Car Smell" 10 18.87%
rodi - "buttons." 6 11.32%
dcstep - "M-stitch" 1 1.89%
Spoolin335 - "Lights" 4 7.55%
Chewy734 - "Silver Ghost" 3 5.66%
Litos - "Keychain" 1 1.89%
remmib - "Steering wheel buttons" 10 18.87%
Sniz - "Kids get the hell out" 1 1.89%
TL - "Warp Speed" 8 15.09%
signes - "Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz" 2 3.77%
immiketoo - "Safety First" 2 3.77%
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      03-30-2011, 05:29 PM   #23
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Doh, voted but didn't know it was only one vote. Clicked all the ones I liked not realizing that it wasn't saving the vote. Oh well, TL, congrats on being the last one I clicked on!!
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figures... what the hell do they teach you down there????

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Doh, voted but didn't know it was only one vote. Clicked all the ones I liked not realizing that it wasn't saving the vote. Oh well, TL, congrats on being the last one I clicked on!!
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I stand by my vote, but i think there's another picture that deserves my respect too. so i wish there were multiple.

but can't have everything i guess.

and sorry i didn't make it in on this contest either.... poor performance by me.... damn life!!!
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      03-31-2011, 10:21 AM   #29
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when you see something like this (potential for a 6-way tie), then either we are equally as good, or equally suck, and there is no clear winner.
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So you guys are saying in your eyes you need multiple votes because you cannot choose a clear winner.. but you complain about the single vote setup because it doesn't define a clear winner all the time.

you guys don't make sense.
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I stand by my vote, but i think there's another picture that deserves my respect too. so i wish there were multiple.

but can't have everything i guess.

and sorry i didn't make it in on this contest either.... poor performance by me.... damn life!!!
well thank you sir, just noticed. i agree too, several great shots this contest.
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I prefer multiple votes.

I'd love it if there were a ranking poll, where we could either rank them all or rank our top three or top five. I've seen that elsewhere, but this forum software doesn't provide for it. I think that'd provide the most meaningful result. Also, I think that you should only see the poll results if you've already voted.

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I prefer multiple votes.

I'd love it if there were a ranking poll, where we could either rank them all or rank our top three or top five. I've seen that elsewhere, but this forum software doesn't provide for it. I think that'd provide the most meaningful result. Also, I think that you should only see the poll results if you've already voted.

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This.

It would be nice if you could just look at one picture at a time, rate it 1-10, and do it for all pics. That way everyone gets critiqued/voted, and then we can take the average or sum of all ratings you got to determine the winner.
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the current leader is leading because he voted for himself. Can we ban this please?
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Let's just not count that vote in the final tally.
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technically its not against the rules, a good flaming is all I think you can legitimately do in this situation.

I'm more inclined to find out how so many non regulars in this section found their way to the contest and chose his photo among the others.
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the current leader is leading because he voted for himself. Can we ban this please?
Why?

I see nothing wrong with someone voting for themselves, so long as the rules allow. This contest had many good images, but in some of the past contests I've had trouble finding anything that I wanted to vote for, at least compared to my entry in those contests.

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Remmib is also still down by a vote (9)... Long_Wang's vote is disqualified and will not count.
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we figure out who long_wang was?
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yeah its all taken care of.

I just want to address something that several of us have talked about, some in public, some in private. It's hard to tell what votes are from legit members who put stake in the contest or just from "friends to help people out; what votes are purely based on your arts strength and what votes are based on other factors such as predetermined biases or even "campaigning" to casual friends for votes behind closed doors to push photos towards the front of the pack.

These contests are supposed to be fun. I realize winning is fun but its not fun when people are biased for or against photos because of their owner, who they are, and who they know (and possibly ask to vote for them). I'm not going to sit here and accuse anyone or biased voting, campaigning or cheating but there has been rumor and some suspicion of it going on. I just ask (and I think I speak for most) that it ends and we take the emphasis off of winning and just bettering our photo skills.

If you are the kind of person who has to enter and can't take any kind of critique/criticism in the form of words or lack of votes, please just don't enter.

Part of bettering your photo skills is learning to take these comments as a positive step of what you can do better next time as opposed to why you suck this time (to put it bluntly).

As a moderator on another website who has organized these on a different basis, my suggestion now is that as long as everyone is willing to take on the task, we submit our entries via PM to the "host" of the contest and the entries remain titled but nameless. Then when the winner is chosen, the host will tell us who the photographer was. Sure some of us will be able to pick others work out of a lineup and that's fine, but it will take away the bias that I think clouds a lot of good work shining through for what it is rather than who took the photo.

What do you guys all think?

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that last option will limit a lot of dialog, but will help the host a lot. It will definitely tidy it up, but i think it would loose friendly banter on the thread.
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that last option will limit a lot of dialog, but will help the host a lot. It will definitely tidy it up, but i think it would loose friendly banter on the thread.
I totally agree, its very pro/con heavy. Just an idea is all, I think the majority of us would need to be on board with any idea of changing the rules here. Who knows, maybe just simply multiple votes all the time could help correct it. Or just not listing the photographer in the poll so outsiders who didn't see the contest thread don't make a biased pick based on who submitted a photo.
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why did you close it according to EST? shoulda done PST...i was going to vote for Remmib which would've broken the tie, lol.

edit: just noticed that long_wang" is udub...lol
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I totally agree, its very pro/con heavy. Just an idea is all, I think the majority of us would need to be on board with any idea of changing the rules here. Who knows, maybe just simply multiple votes all the time could help correct it. Or just not listing the photographer in the poll so outsiders who didn't see the contest thread don't make a biased pick based on who submitted a photo.
Folks with watermarks in their workflow would have to be careful, but otherwise that would work. It would mean more work for the person running the contest, though.
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