M3 ///M Performance Exhaust Videos + Pics **UPDATED** - Page 3

aajami · 02-08-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alpina527

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Originally Posted by richpuer

No, stock tips are 75mm measured from outside edges. I've measured it precisely.

I stand corrected. I have just checked and oem is 75mm

Then I have to assume that the 74mm reference for the M Performance exhaust is inaccurate. I know tip diameters are mostly meaningless, but I wouldn't understand how BMW would commission smaller tips when bigger is generally perceived to be better when it comes to aftermarket exhausts.

GOLFFRR · 02-08-2011, 10:44 PM

^^ agree

bape_sta206 · 02-08-2011, 11:12 PM

looks good but not worth the price.

Mark's M · 02-08-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CalgaryX3

Looks great. I just got an email from my parts department; MSRP in Canada for the exhaust is $5800!! I think i'll skip that option on my new E90 thank-you very much!

Asif

Sad. Very sad.

FrenchBoy · 02-08-2011, 11:39 PM

Doesn't sound bad. From the poor quality welds, I am assuming it's a pre-production unit. Still the craftsmanship seems extremely poor compared to the Akrapovic and many aftermarket exhausts. That's quite disappointing coming from M.

BMRLVR · 02-09-2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark's M

Sad. Very sad.

$5800CDN Holy Shit

I paid less than that for my full Akrapovic Evo system!

Well Mark that settles it, I guess it is Dinan for you after all

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spoonf20c · 02-09-2011, 01:24 AM

Pricing Information
Sugg Retail: 4,374.32 USD
Dealer Price: 3,324.48 USD

straight from dcs.

aajami · 02-09-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by spoonf20c

Pricing Information
Sugg Retail: 4,374.32 USD
Dealer Price: 3,324.48 USD

straight from dcs.

Same as the original dealer price, but it looks like the MSRP might have gone up (unless my memory is off). That means it'll go for $3,500 from vendors.

emthreeboy · 02-09-2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Omerta

What I don't get is that this should be the stock Exhaust on the M. When you get into a new Ferrari the last thing you are thinking is... "man I need to do something about this exhaust note", because it sounds bad ass right from the factory.

+1000000000000000000000

Shoulda been on ALL E9X M3s from the beginning instead of the current OEM exhaust. Its so so quiet that its bullshit!

KEYON · 02-09-2011, 03:06 AM

i kind of hope the final production is better.. i don't think that is the final product. if it is..that is a little sad.

Would they add some new connecting pipes with that price? possibly?

jonasaurus · 02-09-2011, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spoonf20c

Pricing Information
Sugg Retail: 4,374.32 USD
Dealer Price: 3,324.48 USD

straight from dcs.

Not much better here, was quoted £2700 inc VAT

Kyoshi71 · 02-09-2011, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rshane

Looks like a stock exhaust with some aftermarket tips...

This was a joke right? You cant be serious.

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Originally Posted by PIMP "E"

bmw see all the crazy prices thats out there for aftermarket exhaust systems. so its only fair that they join the race. so far eisenmann and akrapovic are in the lead, but eisenmann do have the best price for their exhaust. also it look and fit best on the M3.

I think I partly agree with this. BMW probably has taken note to all the "idiots" here that are willing to spend $6,000 on an exhaust system. I dont know if I would say it was "fair" that they joined in?

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Originally Posted by Omerta

What I don't get is that this should be the stock Exhaust on the M. When you get into a new Ferrari the last thing you are thinking is... "man I need to do something about this exhaust note", because it sounds bad ass right from the factory.

The M3 is less focused and more of a production car that has to appeal to a wider audience. It only makes sense that BMW doesnt make it too loud.

09E92M34ME · 02-09-2011, 08:21 AM

Price=Fail. My money will be with Akrapovic.

Kyoshi71 · 02-09-2011, 10:57 AM

Whats the Over/Under on how many Akrapovic plugs will wind up on this thread before it ends?

aajami · 02-09-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BlacknRedi

i kind of hope the final production is better.. i don't think that is the final product. if it is..that is a little sad.

Would they add some new connecting pipes with that price? possibly?

The exhaust comes with connecting pipes and clamps.

Omerta · 02-09-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

The M3 is less focused and more of a production car that has to appeal to a wider audience. It only makes sense that BMW doesnt make it too loud.

The M is supposed to be special in my eyes. If you want a production car, BMW has plenty of offerings. The M is a production car sent through the Motorsport division for a high performance bitch slap and a kick ass exhaust should be part of that..... BMW is just throwing the M on any car now for a marketing tool and it kills the exclusivity. I love my car but I think BMW is focusing on marketing instead of the days they were into building the Ultimate driving machine and letting that fact sell the car instead of the fact it has a "M" on the back of it.

Kyoshi71 · 02-09-2011, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Omerta

The M is supposed to be special in my eyes. If you want a production car, BMW has plenty of offerings. The M is a production car sent through the Motorsport division for a high performance bitch slap and a kick ass exhaust should be part of that..... BMW is just throwing the M on any car now for a marketing tool and it kills the exclusivity. I love my car but I think the way BMW is focusing on marketing instead of the days they were into building the Ultimate driving machine and letting that fact sell the car instead of the fact it has a "M" on the back of it.

I completely understand your point. However, the M3 has always been classified (at least by BMW) as a daily driver. Most folks dont classify a Ferarri or Lamborghini a DD. Not to mention, Germany is pretty strict regarding exhaust decibels. Should they make a special muffler for imports?

Omerta · 02-09-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

I completely understand your point. However, the M3 has always been classified (at least by BMW) as a daily driver. Most folks dont classify a Ferarri or Lamborghini a DD. Not to mention, Germany is pretty strict regarding exhaust decibels. Should they make a special muffler for imports?

I see what you are saying about restrictions and had not put that thought into my comment. The performance exhaust should then be a option at no additional cost. It should cost the same to make unless it is made out of a different material.

aajami · 02-09-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Omerta

I see what you are saying about restrictions and had not put that thought into my comment. The performance exhaust should then be a option at no additional cost. It should cost the same to make unless it is made out of a different material.

It is made of a different material. Stock exhaust is primarily stainless steel. M Performance exhaust is Inconel and titanium.

Kyoshi71 · 02-09-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Omerta

I see what you are saying about restrictions and had not put that thought into my comment. The performance exhaust should then be a option at no additional cost. It should cost the same to make unless it is made out of a different material.

It is.....Inconel. (very expensive)

kitw · 02-09-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

It is made of a different material. Stock exhaust is primarily stainless steel. M Performance exhaust is Inconel and titanium.

Just curious, have we confirmed that? As mentioned before, there are lots of high carbon steels that fit the description of the material. Judging by the heat marks left by the welds, it looks like MiG welds, which are not appropriate for Ti or Iconel. (you need to TiG Titanium)

Richbot · 02-09-2011, 08:23 PM

Could still be inconel, the heat discoloration around the welds certainly look like the welds on inconel I've worked with, and a TIG weld isn't necessarily always machine-weld pretty, especially if the substrate is even a little bit dirty. The welds on that exhaust look very much like a hand-done TIG on thin-gauge material. It's easy to lay a bead down by hand like a stack of dimes on their side if everything is clean and 1/8+ thick, not so easy if the can is thin material (which it probably is, that's the whole point of using inconel on an exhaust, use a thinner material without sacrificing strength).

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Richbot Major Drives: Jerez Black E90 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: STL Posts: 1,487 iTrader: (1)	Could still be inconel, the heat discoloration around the welds certainly look like the welds on inconel I've worked with, and a TIG weld isn't necessarily always machine-weld pretty, especially if the substrate is even a little bit dirty. The welds on that exhaust look very much like a hand-done TIG on thin-gauge material. It's easy to lay a bead down by hand like a stack of dimes on their side if everything is clean and 1/8+ thick, not so easy if the can is thin material (which it probably is, that's the whole point of using inconel on an exhaust, use a thinner material without sacrificing strength). __________________

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