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      02-01-2011, 12:41 PM   #23
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Craig petterson...... Are you joking ? He is in the pocket of Escort, everybody knows that he'll right any good review for the right money... LOL

As for the radartest.net.... LOL ( I rank these radars the best and oh by the way click here to buy ) nothing but marketing to sell product. Any so called radar test site that claims to do independent test on radars and then sells those very radars they rank the best are biased and have one purpose which is the same as every other website on the internet... TO SELL PRODUCT. Dont worry though a lot of other people not just you have fallen for that as well. Think about it dont you find it funny that every so called review or test website out there only ranks K40 to be the worst and not others that are known to be like Cobra, Whistler, rocky mountian etc and ALWAYS rank the same three to be the top, however K40 continues to own the market share for installed remote radars for the last 30 years????????????? They obviously have one intent which is to discredit K40 and K40 only. Your a funny...... Come back to me with your so called professional experience when you have run with the K40 RL360 cause I am not the only one who thinks this radar is by far better the any other remote available today.

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Well, as I said, Craig Peterson is not the most "unbiased" reviewer there is. It's a foregone conclusion that he ranks Escort as tops as he is the mouthpiece for this brand. But he's not selling V1, Whistler or RMR (or any others), yet K40 products are always ranked low against these others. Plus, I didn't reference radartest.com, I referenced radardetector.net -- a forum for detector enthusiasts.

But I tell you what? You're in Pittsburg, I'm in Maryland. There are periodic meets done by enthusiasts along the east coast. This spring (because I hate spending time doing this in the cold) let's get together at one of the meets. You bring your K40, I'll be there with my V1 (old v1.7 at that too), the guys that own the radar and laser guns will be there and we'll see what results we get. I'll video tape and post the video up. If I get a Laser Intercepter and have it installed by then we can test the laser jammer portion too.

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K40 is garbage. I had that first and couldn't wait to rip it out. V1 is far superior, and so is just about any windshield mounted detector
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I found this online

K40 RADAR DETECTORS vs. ESCORT RADAR DETECTORS vs. V1

I have reviewed tons of information and watched a ton of videos on encounters using both the K40 RL360, RL100 radar detectors, Escort 9500ci, Redline and 9500ix and the V1. I understand that ALL radar encounters are different and depending on the envoirment and surroundings range could be different. Seeing that most of us rate our radars based upon our REAL WORLD driving experiences, I have decided to compare a few different encounters that were as close as possible driving terrain. Very interesting to see who displayed better range and more warning on same band encounters, take a look !

Escort 9500ci / Redline vs. Ka band Leo encounter:
This video was .66 secs long and was on a basic straight away interstate with the Leo on left side of road. Redline detected at .28 sec into video and the 9500ci alerted at .36 secs into video they passed the Leo 60 secs into the video giving at most .32 secs of warning time to the driver take a look.






K40 RL360 vs. Ka Band Leo Encounter:
This video was .123 secs long also on a straight away highway however it was down a hill with the Leo on left side on the road.
The K40 RL360 detected .19 secs into video and they passed the Leo .78 secs into video giving the driver .59 secs of warning time. Take a look.





Escort Redline vs. Ka Band Leo Encounter
This video was .52 secs long and was on a basic straight away highway with the Leo on left side of road. The Redline alerted .14 secs into video they passed the Leo .46 secs into the video giving at most .32 secs of warning time to the driver take a look





K40 RL100 vs. Ka Band Leo Encounter:
This video was .62 secs long also on a straight away highway with the Leo on left side on the road. The K40 RL100 detected .62 secs into video and they passed the Leo .80 secs into video giving the driver .62 secs of warning time. Take a look.





Escort 9500ix vs. Ka Band Leo Encounter
This video was .104 secs long and was on a basic straight away highway with the Leo on left side of road. The 9500ix alerted .32 secs into video they passed the Leo .116 secs into the video giving at most .44 secs of warning time to the driver take a look.





K40 RL100 vs. Ka Band Leo Encounter:
This video was .71 secs long also on a straight away highway down a hill with the Leo on left side on the road. The K40 RL100 detected immediately into video and they passed the Leo .66 secs into video giving the driver .66 secs of warning time. Take a look.





This video was .63 secs long also on a straight away highway with the Leo off to the left side of the highway. Both the Redline and 9500ci detected Ka band .11 secs into this video and they passed the LEO .47 secs into the video giving the driver .36 sces of warning time. Take a look





This video was .142 secs long also on a straight highway however traveling down a hill with the LEO on the righ sid eof the highway. The K40 RL360 detected Ka Band .21 secs into this videos and they passed the LEO .80 secs into the video giving the driver .59 secs of warning time, take a look !





V1 vs K40 RL100 vs. Redline

check out these videos the V1 on gave 21 second warning on a police Ka Band alert from the time it detected to whe they passed and the K40 RL100 gave 67 seconds on it's Ka Band encounter from the time it detected to when they passed the police. The Escort Redline detected Ka Band .20 secs into video and they passed LEO .47 secs into video giving .27 secs of warning.

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K40 RL100 Video:





Escort Redline:





Again it has been acknowledged that all terrain is different but the basis is that if a radar is good then it should result in the same performance regardless and in these close comparisons the K40 has shown to give the most advanced warning to police radar.
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I was really interested in getting the Escort. I have always had good experiences with them. However, the built in 9500 does not have a rear radar receiver. This is a deal breaker. In the many years I have had my K40, I would estimate half my warnings are from the rear. I have two LEDS in the dash. The right its rear. Simple. I know.

With the 9500, no such warning.

Or am I incorrect??

I would actually update my install and consider the Escort if you had the dedicated rear detection capability.

Please explain to me why you guys do not offer a rear reciever... Please. Very interested.

My opinion is not based on maximum range. It is based on totally stealth install and front/rear radar detection. NJ is not known for using laser at this time.

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Opinions are one thing but a claim that the K40 RL360 is "the best radar on the market" has to be backed up. This forum is not just a place for opinions. People come here for information. Not misinformation.

In isolation, every owner believes his or her detector is the best. But how many of them have truly tested them against the radar and laser guns that LEOs use? And how many of them, further still, compare them head to head against the other detectors? Well, I have with the help of others. It's not my life, just a hobby. But after a few times meeting with people who do this it becomes pretty clear what works and what doesn't. Besides, there's plenty of good information on the Internet. Check out the Veil guy's blog or radardetectors.net forum.

The only type of comparison I can find on the Internet of any K40 detector is from Craig Peterson. He's hardly what I would call "unbiased". He truly is an Escort "blogger". (And if I were blogging, it wouldn't be for Escort because I'm a Valentine-1 Zombie!) But even next to the non-Escort products he reviews with it, the K40 gets low marks.

I'm happy that you're satisfied with your K40. But if you claim it's the best on the market you have to qualify and prove that.


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I was really interested in getting the Escort. I have always had good experiences with them. However, the built in 9500 does not have a rear radar receiver. This is a deal breaker. In the many years I have had my K40, I would estimate half my warnings are from the rear. I have two LEDS in the dash. The right its rear. Simple. I know.

With the 9500, no such warning.

Or am I incorrect??

I would actually update my install and consider the Escort if you had the dedicated rear detection capability.

Please explain to me why you guys do not offer a rear reciever... Please. Very interested.

My opinion is not based on maximum range. It is based on totally stealth install and front/rear radar detection. NJ is not known for using laser at this time.
Why do you say "... if you had ..." and "... you guys ..."? I'm not Escort, do not represent them and do not push them. I only know that they make decent detectors. For me, though, the best is the V1. Better than any "stealth" install detector too. The V1 wrote the book (actually the patent) on dual facing antennae. The V1 shows you where the "bogey" is: front, behind and even to the side. I know the K40 won't do this (to the sides) because Mike Valentine would have sued since he owns the patent.

It's true that rear detection is important. But most of the Escort models are sensitive enough to pick up the reflection of rear radar as it bounces off of objects ahead. It does alert. It doesn't tell you where the alert came from. The same goes for any other detector, bar the V1.

Stealth, in the form of not being able to see that the detector is there is important. It's also slick. But a good installer, or clever DIYer can make a detector install nearly invisible in this sense too, depending in the detector. However, my take is that I want to see and know all the information to which means that a display is needed. Two lights just won't do it for me. YMMV.

There is a different kind of stealth; being invisible to the Spectre RDD. Perhaps where you drive this is not important. If you travel in Virginia then you need to be invisible to the Spectre. Only the Escort Redline and 9500ci, and the Beltronics STI series are invisible. Period.

I can see that a stealthy install is important to you. In this respect the K40 is damn good, maybe the best. I just take issue when someone says that it is the best out there, period, without providing supporting details. While it may be the slickest install, I can show you that it is not the best performing and for my money, performance is what I want. Otherwise, I'd have bought an Audi instead of an M3.


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Oh, I forgot to mention about why Escort doesn't have a rear facing antenna. It's probably because Mike Valentine owns a patent on it. However, that all changes on the 25th of this month. I don't know if Escort has plans on adding one though. Check in with their forums online. But you probably won't get a definitive answer from Escort.

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Again it has been acknowledged that all terrain is different
Absolutely. Why do these videos all show diifferent terrain? With different cops? And mostly different drivers? You're comparing apples and oranges.

But some of these videos do have something in common: they were put up there by the same poster(s). One of these, accounting for at least three of these videos, happens to be K40Electronics themselves. This is not a good way to make your point.

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...but the basis is that if a radar is good then it should result in the same performance regardless and in these close comparisons the K40 has shown to give the most advanced warning to police radar.
Sorry, I don't agree. "most advanced warning"? I'm not sure what this means. Does it mean that it always alerts first to a threat? What about not alerting to to non-threats? What about giving you the right proportional alert so that you have an indication of threat level? Is it reliable at picking up IO and QT threats? Can it be upgraded easily or do you have to pay another 2 grand to get the latest detection when the threat changes? There is more, but without consideration of these things you cannot claim "the best". I can argue any of these points in favor of any number of other detectors.

So, marysm3, take my challenge. Meet me this spring somewhere convenient to both of us. Let's pit the V1 and K40 against each other, as well as whoever else shows up with their detectors. I'll try to gather as large a cross-section of radar and laser guns together as I can. Then we'll posts the video and results. Ok?


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Why do you say "... if you had ..." and "... you guys ..."? I'm not Escort, do not represent them and do not push them. I only know that they make decent detectors. For me, though, the best is the V1. Better than any "stealth" install detector too. The V1 wrote the book (actually the patent) on dual facing antennae. The V1 shows you where the "bogey" is: front, behind and even to the side. I know the K40 won't do this (to the sides) because Mike Valentine would have sued since he owns the patent.


How you are so sadly mislead....... Alll of the remote K40 radar will tell you with tone, leds and voice as to where the threat is coming from ie, front of back and the band and the strength it is. And K40 hold the patient on front and rear radar recievers that why Escort of anybody can not supply that to us, Mr. Valentine holds the patient on his dual horn under single case design which does have it's advantages, but let me ask you this........ What good are the side arrows by that time if you are speeding you might as well pull over.....LOL


It's true that rear detection is important. But most of the Escort models are sensitive enough to pick up the reflection of rear radar as it bounces off of objects ahead. It does alert. It doesn't tell you where the alert came from. The same goes for any other detector, bar the V1.

And the K40 and the Escort will get VERY LIMITED detection tords the rear as will the V1 because of the placement of the radar, where as the K40 has a reciever in both the front and rear giving the same amount of detection to each direction.

Stealth, in the form of not being able to see that the detector is there is important. It's also slick. But a good installer, or clever DIYer can make a detector install nearly invisible in this sense too, depending in the detector. However, my take is that I want to see and know all the information to which means that a display is needed. Two lights just won't do it for me. YMMV.

That why the K40 is 100% voice, tone and leds

There is a different kind of stealth; being invisible to the Spectre RDD. Perhaps where you drive this is not important. If you travel in Virginia then you need to be invisible to the Spectre. Only the Escort Redline and 9500ci, and the Beltronics STI series are invisible. Period.

I can see that a stealthy install is important to you. In this respect the K40 is damn good, maybe the best. I just take issue when someone says that it is the best out there, period, without providing supporting details. While it may be the slickest install, I can show you that it is not the best performing and for my money, performance is what I want. Otherwise, I'd have bought an Audi instead of an M3.



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Oops... Sorry ersin,

Someone mentioned you worked for Escort...... me bad.

I thought I mentioned that "for me" the K40 was by far the best since it is totally built in and on all the time. Plus has dedicated front and rear detection.

Works for me. No tickets in 5 years of owning it! Had it in my Infiniti M45 prior.....
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But some of these videos do have something in common: they were put up there by the same poster(s). One of these, accounting for at least three of these videos, happens to be K40Electronics themselves. This is not a good way to make your point.

Yeah not test these are all real world driving encounters ....
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But some of these videos do have something in common: they were put up there by the same poster(s). One of these, accounting for at least three of these videos, happens to be K40Electronics themselves. This is not a good way to make your point.

Yeah not test these are all real world driving encounters ....
Nope, not when put up there by the manufacturer. You can cherry pick videos all you want. Point to independent tests please.


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Valentine Research, Inc. holds several patents related to radar detection. The one in question here about two antennae is US Patent 5083129, which expires this month. The abstract:

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A police radar detector detects both the presence of radar signals incident upon a motor vehicle using the detector and also determines the direction of origin of the source of detected radar signals and signals the operator of the motor vehicle of the presence and source direction of the radar signals. Preferably, the radar detector includes two antennas with shared circuitry in a single housing. One of the antennas is directed generally toward the front of the motor vehicle and the other antenna is directed generally to the rear of the motor vehicle. As the police speed radar frequency bands are scanned or swept, each potential radar signal which is detected is processed to determine the direction of origin of the signals. To determine the direction of origin of incident radar signals, the signals are detected in both antennas with the signal strengths in the two antennas being compared to determine the direction of origin of the signals. It is preferred to identify the direction of the radar source as being to the front of the vehicle, to the rear of the vehicle or to the side of the vehicle. Empirically determined tables assist in the determination of thresholds for use in the detector to determine direction of the source of detected radar signals.
It says, "Preferably, ... in a single housing." I'm no patent lawyer but I have a few patents to my name so I know a little about this. I can tell you that this does not exclude external antenna for Mr. Valentine so K40 does not have exclusive use of this. I've searched but cannot find the K40Electronics patent for multiple antennae. Could you please point me in the right direction to it. I'm kind of surprised they have this kind of patent.


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P.S. Perhaps K40 Electonics goes by another name for their detector patents. Would you happen to know what this name is? A "Communication system for vehicles" patent is the only patent listed for K40 Electronics. It has nothing to do with multiple radar antennae but with wireless communication of sensors to annunciation devices.
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now your just being babbling..... I am sorry you are so misled.

But I am not arguing with you anymore, you are incorrect in your statements.

Just because videos are posted by a MFG doesnt mean they were taken by the MFG. Obviously they are all different terrains, vehicles etc. Cherry pick videos....Hmmm seems all of K40 display great range. Yes V1 hold patient on front and rear in single housing, K40 holds patient on front and rear separate receivers ie why nobody else BUT k40 sell it except the V1 but that is a different design of which he holds the patient to hense why no other portable radar offers dual horns under a single housing. Show me a independent test from a established company that DOESNT SELL RADAR.

Like I said I am sorry you are misled.
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now your just being babbling..... I am sorry you are so misled.
No, I'm arguing.

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Just because videos are posted by a MFG doesnt mean they were taken by the MFG. Obviously they are all different terrains, vehicles etc. Cherry pick videos....Hmmm seems all of K40 display great range.
Whatever. I'll let the readers make up their own minds.

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Then please tell me the patent number so I can see this for myself. I cannot find it.

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Show me a independent test from a established company that DOESNT SELL RADAR.
Companies don't publish test results unless they have something to gain from it. So how about from a group of enthusiasts like http://www.guysoflidar.com/? They have nothing to sell, nor do they recommend anything. They only present results. Or how about http://veilguy.blogspot.com/? He sells VEIL which is a coating to attenuate laser but he sells no detectors or jammers. How about the link I gave you to the post on m3post by J08M3? He has no detector to sell either, unless it's his K40 that he wants to get rid of. I'm sure if you looked you could find more.

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Like I said I am sorry you are misled.
No, really, I'm not. I've been a student of the whole radar/laser countermeasures for many years now. I not only surf the Internet but actually take part in seeing with my own eyes how these things work, or not. I'm not pushing a single product or vendor. I say which ones work well consistently. I state when my opinions are my personal opinions and fact when it's fact. I can back up my claims.

However, methinks thou are trying to mislead the fair folk here.


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Valentine has no patent on rear facing antenna in a seperate housing. His patent is for shared circuitry. You can't patent seperate discrete modules. I am sure K40 just sells 2 discrete antennas and they don't do the fancy comparisons which may be patented.

In any event, I love my radar even though I dream of a stealth V1 or 9500 (with discrete front and rear sensing). Saved my ass many times with the rear warning....



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Oh, I forgot to mention about why Escort doesn't have a rear facing antenna. It's probably because Mike Valentine owns a patent on it. However, that all changes on the 25th of this month. I don't know if Escort has plans on adding one though. Check in with their forums online. But you probably won't get a definitive answer from Escort.

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Valentine has no patent on rear facing antenna in a seperate housing. His patent is for shared circuitry. You can't patent seperate discrete modules. I am sure K40 just sells 2 discrete antennas and they don't do the fancy comparisons which may be patented.
Yeah man. I'm really curious now to find out exactly what they're doing and if they even have a patent.

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In any event, I love my radar even though I dream of a stealth V1 or 9500 (with discrete front and rear sensing). Saved my ass many times with the rear warning....
A stealthier V1, Redline or STI (wait, that would be the STI-R) would be nice. But not required. I have ideas for how I would do it, like mount several separate radar and (miniature) laser "antenna" all around outside the vehicle. I don't design these things though. I only dream of the perfect detector, which doesn't, and probably never will, exist.


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There is a module behind my rear bumper with the rear antenna. So, it is confirmed there are two seperate modules. They have had this for many years so I am certain they are not violating any of Mike's patents. Really, you are just paying extra for a second radar detector! That is why I don't believe it is patentable. I wonder if K40 has some sort of discrete unit patent. Would be possible since Escort doesn't offer it, yet offers rear lasar.....

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Yeah man. I'm really curious now to find out exactly what they're doing and if they even have a patent.



A stealthier V1, Redline or STI (wait, that would be the STI-R) would be nice. But not required. I have ideas for how I would do it, like mount several separate radar and (miniature) laser "antenna" all around outside the vehicle. I don't design these things though. I only dream of the perfect detector, which doesn't, and probably never will, exist.


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What I gather is that the K40 is two radar units -- one front, one back. The difference with the V1 is that two antenna inputs are directed into to one processing unit where the two signals are compared and processed before being presented to the user.

But Marysm3 outright claims that K40 has a patent on their two receiver system. If it is patented it's got to be more than just two units reporting separately. But I can't find it. I would love to read it, if it exists.


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bottom line is this, radar detectors reviews should be based upon drivers experiencies in real world driving and should not be determined by a so called group of enthusiast, they obviously get there money by sponsors and I find it funny how those same group of people grade the same radars time after time after time, they would not just be doing it for sh%$s and giggles.

The point is this. all radars will give you enough time to slow down and not get a ticket the difference is programing and features.

K40: Will always offer the most protection due to there front and rear radar system which nobody else offers. they also has the stealth install, no display or control head to hide or flush mount, speeding ticket guarantee and directional awareness it will tell you both visually and verbally where the LEO is coming from, the band and signal strength. Hands down great systems especially now they have the new RL360 with GPS. They have been in business for over 30 years and have been Scrutinized for the same amount of time buy the same group of people putting out there so called reviews and test results....LOL .... funny how they dont write that Cobra, Whistler or Rocky Mountain are never mentioned JUST K40...Hmmmmm

Escort: also offers a remote system, theirs comes with front only radar but both front and rear laser shifters strictly for laser jamming. They two have GPS. good system has display and control head that needs to be mounted somewhere inside the car which to me I do not want because it will effect the original look of the car. But over all a good system, no speeding ticket guarantee like K40.

V1: Great for what it is, a portable radar that can be hardwired in like all portables. They have the technology of front and rear receiver which is good but because it has to be mounted in the front of the car the rear detection is limited. Has not been updated since it has come ot buut offers a firmware update?????? Seeing that radar bands havent changed in over a decade I dont really see the point in updating it.

There are some who like the K40, there are some who like the Escort and then there are some who like the V1, it doesnt mean one sucks and the others are awesome. NO COMPANY would be in business like K40 has if there product was not good.
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... by a so called group of enthusiast, they obviously get there money by sponsors and I find it funny how those same group of people grade the same radars time after time after time, they would not just be doing it for sh%$s and giggles.
Wrong! I resent that because I am an enthusiast, I know others who are, and we really wish someone would pay us for it. But they don't. We have no agenda other than testing, reporting results and learning. Yes, we do indeed get our shits and giggles from it.

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K40: Will always offer the most protection due to there front and rear radar system which nobody else offers.
You contradict yourself below by admitting that V1 has this too.

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... They have been in business for over 30 years and have been Scrutinized for the same amount of time buy the same group of people putting out there so called reviews and test results....LOL .... funny how they dont write that Cobra, Whistler or Rocky Mountain are never mentioned JUST K40...Hmmmmm
Actually, K40 is hardly mentioned but Cobra, Whistler, RMR, et al are. In fact, mention of K40 on the radardetector.net will you get you banned. I shit thee not. It's right there in their FAQ. I don't know why. They won't discuss it. But I have it on pretty good authority that K40 has threatened to sue if they are mentioned.

Nobody's picking on K40. If anything, RMR is the joke of the industry. And oh, I almost forgot how Cobra owners mount their detectors pointing up at the sky. That's another joke.

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V1: Great for what it is, a portable radar that can be hardwired in like all portables. They have the technology of front and rear receiver which is good but because it has to be mounted in the front of the car the rear detection is limited.
Wrong again. V1 rear detection has no compromise and beats all others in this respect. Take me up on my challenge to see for yourself.

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Has not been updated since it has come ot buut offers a firmware update?????? Seeing that radar bands havent changed in over a decade I dont really see the point in updating it.
Another falsehood. V1 has updated their internals and programming. Anything can be made better and Valentine Research has done this, tweaking things along the way. The FCC hasn't allotted new frequencies, but both detectors and police radar/laser units get better. Technology marches on. IO, POP, QT, etc. It's a leap frog game.

Plus you can trade in your old V1 for a new one for less than the full cost. Will K40 Electronics do this? It is only the V1 case that has not been updated. Well, technically it has, twice -- once to add laser detection at the bottom, then again to bring the laser detector back up into the main unit going back to their original case design.

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There are some who like the K40, there are some who like the Escort and then there are some who like the V1, it doesnt mean one sucks and the others are awesome. NO COMPANY would be in business like K40 has if there product was not good.
Thank you. Up above you were saying how awesome the K40 is and calling all the others suckers. I'm glad you've come to realize that there are many other aspects to a detector than stealth install. You still don't admit that the K40 is not the best performing detector but maybe you'll change your mind if you see for yourself how it really compares to other detectors. Come on out this spring. I'll buy you lunch. It's always good to meet other enthusiasts -- whether they're speed measurement countermeasure enthusiasts, M3 enthusiasts, BMW enthusiasts or just plain car enthusiasts.

Just FYI, Escort has been in business since at least 1978. Mike Valentine helped start them up, then moved on and created his own company -- Valentine Research. Most other detector companies nowadays have been at it for a while too. Not just K40.


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Don't do it! A V1 and Laser Intercepter quad is a much better system for radar/laser countermeasures. Or if you drive in VA, substitute an Escort Redline or Bel STI driver for the V1. You could also get an Escort 9500ci (if they install it for you) for both radar and laser but the laser countermeasures won't perform as well as the Laser Interceptor.


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Man get a life dude, all you do is talk bad about K40 when everyone else has great things to say about the K40 RL360 including me.
For those who have doubt check this out ( and no I didnt mean that to rime )

http://www.laserjammertests.com/k40laserdefuserex2.htm

http://www.teamspeed.com/forums/car-...-detector.html



RL360 in action

http://www.youtube.com/user/K40Electronics

those speak for them selves.


Ersin, does Escort know your are working overtime?
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