M3 not as fast as i thought - Page 2

creepy coupe · 10-20-2010, 02:42 AM

My first couple of drives in the M3 left me feeling the same, you really need a long test drive to settle into the car, they do lack initial shove as per the 335d and the 335i, but the cars more than just speed.

As mentioned already, try and get a decent test drive in one.

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Originally Posted by murphy

Hi All,

test drove an e92 M3 today with a view of px my e92 325i in for one. Although the car is fast, I wasn't as blown away as i thought I would be. only when i put the gear change on full speed and used the M3 did it feel really fast. Was I expecting to much, have wanted an for about 15 years M3 since I was 10 and now i can finally afford one feel a bit under whelmed.

335ier · 12-20-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

My first couple of drives in the M3 left me feeling the same, you really need a long test drive to settle into the car, they do lack initial shove as per the 335d and the 335i, but the cars more than just speed.

As mentioned already, try and get a decent test drive in one.

I would agree with this. On my test drive I was also very dissapointed.....but I think the problem is getting a decent test drive. I am starting to think that the whole initial disappointment is that your given about 20 Minuit's to decide weather or not your going to spend 60k and its not really long enough to 'bond' with the car.

The sales people should get there act together and properly sell the car my sales person had all there facts and figures (about the car not money wise of course)all wrong!

wafik · 12-20-2010, 07:51 PM

I do see where he is coming from, I really do. I had a DCT 335i, and that gave me that a sence of speed, even at low revs. If i ever floored it, i felt it push me back into my seat. So then when i ordered the M3, i didnt actually test drive it before i got it. No actually i did, but drove it sensible for 15mins, so didnt expect much. When mine arrived, i did feel disappointed in the sence that the 335i actually felt quicker. Was a real let down.

However...I figured, something must be wrong with me...Its an M3 - it cant not impress lol. The power is not there when your driving normally, even if you put your foot down a little. But then once the revs are up, the M3 comes to life..its one serious beast

You cant let a test drive judge the car...not with an M3. You really need to figure it out, bond with the car, then you will know its what you initially thought the M3 would be.

Bob86GN · 12-20-2010, 08:53 PM

Add a supercharger...

creepy coupe · 12-21-2010, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 335ier

I would agree with this. On my test drive I was also very dissapointed.....but I think the problem is getting a decent test drive. I am starting to think that the whole initial disappointment is that your given about 20 Minuit's to decide weather or not your going to spend 60k and its not really long enough to 'bond' with the car.

The sales people should get there act together and properly sell the car my sales person had all there facts and figures (about the car not money wise of course)all wrong!

Agree, I had real trouble getting a decent long test drive, I eventually managed to take one out on my own for a while, which was nice

FastM3 · 12-21-2010, 04:01 PM

how many miles did the one you test drive have?

OC3 · 12-22-2010, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by murphy

no need to be muggy all Im saying is I thought it would be quicker, I had a friend in the car and she said the same. I had 140 out of it and it got there quick, but didnt ram me back in the eat like I thought it would

As rob612 said below, M3 is a high revving car. Too feel the push, you need to be between 6,000 and 8,300 RPM. But, in a dealer test car (a new car), they won't let you rev that high.

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Originally Posted by rob612

the m3 is a high revving car and although it feels "slow" its actually quite fast. i think its bmw's perfection in engineering. smooth yet fast..(numbers dont lie)

Ant Man · 12-22-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by OC3

As rob612 said below, M3 is a high revving car. Too feel the push, you need to be between 6,000 and 8,300 RPM.

I would say that 5k is where the fun really begins.

Different cars need different driving styles. An F1 car would be very slow at low rpms and comparing it to a 335d between 1k - 3krpm, one may find that the F1 is slower but that's hardly the point. The F1 is a lot faster when driver as it was designed to be used, i.e. at high rpms

zltm089 · 01-04-2011, 08:43 PM

G Power supercharger! ;-)

///Mike135i · 02-07-2011, 10:06 AM

I am not going to flame the OP because a long time ago I made exactly the same statement on a forum having bought an E36 M3 after selling an E36 325i.

The power from M cars is far more progressive and as said you need to learn how to extract the most out of them. In a 325i you just mash the throttle and it will go. Its all about building up the power in an M car so when you get to the magic 4-5K rpm all hell is ready to be let loose.

Its one of the reasons I am thinking of chaging my 135 for an E92 M3. My 135 makes more torgue than an M3 and it makes peak torque from 1300rpm onwards so the power is instant. I love the ability to have max power all the time whenever you want it but also miss the progressive build up you get with an M car.

jonasaurus · 02-07-2011, 11:08 AM

The M3 has 2000+ more rpm to play (I'm on the assumption the 325i redlines at 6000ish?) with so the power delivery is going to be different. Depending on what you want to use the car for maybe it isn't a perfect match?

Raptor251 · 02-07-2011, 11:21 AM

Sounds like you need a car with some torque so you can really feel like you got your moneys worth! haha You should buy a diesel truck, it will feel way faster than your 325

M666 SLL · 02-13-2011, 04:04 PM

I'm sorry but if your in an e92 M3 and you put the pedal to the metal then your gone, simple as that.

You sure you didn't have it in reverse?

Steveo · 02-13-2011, 04:19 PM

Look, dont be scared of it, if its a DCT, floor it and hold on!

hugehead · 02-13-2011, 04:32 PM

when i test drove the new Z4 (the one with the twin turbo) my sales rep told me to "floor" the pedal

, you can always supercharged the "M" to 600+ bhp

off topic : Steveo....not forgotten about you m8, my tuner returned on Fri...went to see him on sat morning but he just pop out ,so i left a message so will give him a ring on monday

JOM3JO · 02-13-2011, 04:38 PM

M3 is not Very fast car,but it is fast car in its class,driving on street is very hard to show M3 poteintial,(personally i think m3 will show its poteinitial on race track),maybe u need to consider C63 or RS5 or even 335i,i think they are good for street driving.....
M3 is not for everyone...

335viaSTi · 02-13-2011, 04:40 PM

If you are looking for straight line quicks and put you back in your seat fast then this is not the car for you. If you are looking for the complete driving experience, railing turns, and the awesome sound of high revs then climb on in.

Mineral M3 · 02-16-2011, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murphy

Hi All,

test drove an e92 M3 today with a view of px my e92 325i in for one. Although the car is fast, I wasn't as blown away as i thought I would be. only when i put the gear change on full speed and used the M3 did it feel really fast. Was I expecting to much, have wanted an for about 15 years M3 since I was 10 and now i can finally afford one feel a bit under whelmed.

I have to admit the M3 I first drove was pretty slow, and I was really put off, but later found out that it had only 70 miles on the clock, so maybe you drove a new car that had not been run in properly. I spent quite a while driving everything from the Nissan GTR, Aston Martin V8, C63 and RS5 but the M3 has so much more to offer.

See if you can find one with a few extra miles on... then see how you feel

Good luck

Donbona · 02-18-2011, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zltm089

G Power supercharger! ;-)

Hehe.. you beat me to it!!

But on a serious note, it is alot quicker than it feels. It does lack alot of low end torque compared to the 335i but it seriously makes up for it through the higher rev range.
As said before though, if you want it to feel alot quicker then maybe its not the car for you. Maybe the GTR or the AMG is a better car for you... GTR has everything... power, handling and I like the look but the back seats are points less unless you have your legs amputated. The AMG has so much raw power but you cant put it down and you will probably go through loads of tyres.

You need to seriously think about what you want from a car. The M3 isnt for everyone. Maybe the new one when it eventually comes out will feel quicker.

12-20-2010, 07:51 PM	#25
wafik Captain Drives: M3 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ilford, Essex, London Posts: 729 iTrader: (2)	I do see where he is coming from, I really do. I had a DCT 335i, and that gave me that a sence of speed, even at low revs. If i ever floored it, i felt it push me back into my seat. So then when i ordered the M3, i didnt actually test drive it before i got it. No actually i did, but drove it sensible for 15mins, so didnt expect much. When mine arrived, i did feel disappointed in the sence that the 335i actually felt quicker. Was a real let down. However...I figured, something must be wrong with me...Its an M3 - it cant not impress lol. The power is not there when your driving normally, even if you put your foot down a little. But then once the revs are up, the M3 comes to life..its one serious beast You cant let a test drive judge the car...not with an M3. You really need to figure it out, bond with the car, then you will know its what you initially thought the M3 would be. __________________ BMW E93 M3 \| Individual Brilliant White Metallic \| Extended Leather Novillo Palladium Silver EVOLVE Stage II \| EVOLVE X-Pipe \| Design Tek Valve-Tronic Exhaust \| H&R \| VMR V710 \| Vorsteiner Aero Rear Diffuser II \| 1M Front Bumper Conversion

12-20-2010, 08:53 PM	#26
Bob86GN Private First Class Drives: 2009 M3 Sedan - ESS VT2-600 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Worcester, PA Posts: 143 iTrader: (0)	Add a supercharger... __________________ 2009 ///M3 Sedan - Jet Black / Fox Red - IND/ESS VT2-600 - Eisenmann Race - Brembo 2007 Corvette Z06 - Atomic Orange / Ebony 2011 F-150 SuperCrew (Winter Transportation) 1986 Buick Grand National (10.8 @ 122mph) 1987 Buick Grand National (stock...for now)

01-04-2011, 08:43 PM	#31
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02-07-2011, 11:08 AM	#33
jonasaurus Colonel Drives: 11.5 E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: London Posts: 2,778 iTrader: (0)	The M3 has 2000+ more rpm to play (I'm on the assumption the 325i redlines at 6000ish?) with so the power delivery is going to be different. Depending on what you want to use the car for maybe it isn't a perfect match? __________________ ///M3 \| E90 \| Space Grey \| Fox Red with CF Structure \| 6MT \| 260M \| My build

02-13-2011, 04:32 PM	#37
hugehead Lieutenant Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: manchester Posts: 423 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2009 E90 M3 [0.00] 1987 Porsche 944S 16v [0.00] 2006 BMW E60 M5 [3.50] 2001 Subaru Impreza P1 [4.50]	when i test drove the new Z4 (the one with the twin turbo) my sales rep told me to "floor" the pedal , you can always supercharged the "M" to 600+ bhp off topic : Steveo....not forgotten about you m8, my tuner returned on Fri...went to see him on sat morning but he just pop out ,so i left a message so will give him a ring on monday Last edited by hugehead; 02-13-2011 at 04:43 PM.

12-21-2010, 04:01 PM	#28
FastM3 Private First Class Drives: BMW M3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: New York Posts: 127 iTrader: (0)	how many miles did the one you test drive have?

02-07-2011, 10:06 AM	#32
///Mike135i Private First Class Drives: E82 M 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Berkshire, England Posts: 116 iTrader: (0)	I am not going to flame the OP because a long time ago I made exactly the same statement on a forum having bought an E36 M3 after selling an E36 325i. The power from M cars is far more progressive and as said you need to learn how to extract the most out of them. In a 325i you just mash the throttle and it will go. Its all about building up the power in an M car so when you get to the magic 4-5K rpm all hell is ready to be let loose. Its one of the reasons I am thinking of chaging my 135 for an E92 M3. My 135 makes more torgue than an M3 and it makes peak torque from 1300rpm onwards so the power is instant. I love the ability to have max power all the time whenever you want it but also miss the progressive build up you get with an M car.

02-07-2011, 11:21 AM	#34
Raptor251 ESS Dreaming Drives: 2011.5 e92 m3/Ford Raptor 6.2 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 871 iTrader: (1)	Sounds like you need a car with some torque so you can really feel like you got your moneys worth! haha You should buy a diesel truck, it will feel way faster than your 325

02-13-2011, 04:04 PM	#35
M666 SLL Enlisted Member Drives: BMW e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Essex Posts: 40 iTrader: (0)	I'm sorry but if your in an e92 M3 and you put the pedal to the metal then your gone, simple as that. You sure you didn't have it in reverse?

02-13-2011, 04:19 PM	#36
Steveo First Lieutenant Drives: E60 M5 Interlagos Blue Join Date: May 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 369 iTrader: (0)	Look, dont be scared of it, if its a DCT, floor it and hold on!

02-13-2011, 04:38 PM	#38
JOM3JO Private First Class Drives: e92 m3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: sydney Posts: 161 iTrader: (0)	M3 is not Very fast car,but it is fast car in its class,driving on street is very hard to show M3 poteintial,(personally i think m3 will show its poteinitial on race track),maybe u need to consider C63 or RS5 or even 335i,i think they are good for street driving..... M3 is not for everyone...

02-13-2011, 04:40 PM	#39
335viaSTi Colonel Drives: LeMans Blue E90 ///M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: WPAFB, OH Posts: 2,351 iTrader: (3)	If you are looking for straight line quicks and put you back in your seat fast then this is not the car for you. If you are looking for the complete driving experience, railing turns, and the awesome sound of high revs then climb on in. __________________ E90 ///M3 [LeMans / Silver Novillo Extended / Carbon Leather Trim / DCT / Everything] I picked DCT because I want to be more involved in my un-involvement.

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