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      10-20-2010, 02:42 AM   #23
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My first couple of drives in the M3 left me feeling the same, you really need a long test drive to settle into the car, they do lack initial shove as per the 335d and the 335i, but the cars more than just speed.

As mentioned already, try and get a decent test drive in one.




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test drove an e92 M3 today with a view of px my e92 325i in for one. Although the car is fast, I wasn't as blown away as i thought I would be. only when i put the gear change on full speed and used the M3 did it feel really fast. Was I expecting to much, have wanted an for about 15 years M3 since I was 10 and now i can finally afford one feel a bit under whelmed.
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      12-20-2010, 05:28 PM   #24
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My first couple of drives in the M3 left me feeling the same, you really need a long test drive to settle into the car, they do lack initial shove as per the 335d and the 335i, but the cars more than just speed.

As mentioned already, try and get a decent test drive in one.
I would agree with this. On my test drive I was also very dissapointed.....but I think the problem is getting a decent test drive. I am starting to think that the whole initial disappointment is that your given about 20 Minuit's to decide weather or not your going to spend 60k and its not really long enough to 'bond' with the car.

The sales people should get there act together and properly sell the car my sales person had all there facts and figures (about the car not money wise of course)all wrong!
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      12-20-2010, 07:51 PM   #25
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I do see where he is coming from, I really do. I had a DCT 335i, and that gave me that a sence of speed, even at low revs. If i ever floored it, i felt it push me back into my seat. So then when i ordered the M3, i didnt actually test drive it before i got it. No actually i did, but drove it sensible for 15mins, so didnt expect much. When mine arrived, i did feel disappointed in the sence that the 335i actually felt quicker. Was a real let down.

However...I figured, something must be wrong with me...Its an M3 - it cant not impress lol. The power is not there when your driving normally, even if you put your foot down a little. But then once the revs are up, the M3 comes to life..its one serious beast

You cant let a test drive judge the car...not with an M3. You really need to figure it out, bond with the car, then you will know its what you initially thought the M3 would be.
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      12-21-2010, 03:40 AM   #27
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I would agree with this. On my test drive I was also very dissapointed.....but I think the problem is getting a decent test drive. I am starting to think that the whole initial disappointment is that your given about 20 Minuit's to decide weather or not your going to spend 60k and its not really long enough to 'bond' with the car.

The sales people should get there act together and properly sell the car my sales person had all there facts and figures (about the car not money wise of course)all wrong!
Agree, I had real trouble getting a decent long test drive, I eventually managed to take one out on my own for a while, which was nice
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      12-21-2010, 04:01 PM   #28
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how many miles did the one you test drive have?
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      12-22-2010, 07:38 AM   #29
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no need to be muggy all Im saying is I thought it would be quicker, I had a friend in the car and she said the same. I had 140 out of it and it got there quick, but didnt ram me back in the eat like I thought it would
As rob612 said below, M3 is a high revving car. Too feel the push, you need to be between 6,000 and 8,300 RPM. But, in a dealer test car (a new car), they won't let you rev that high.


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the m3 is a high revving car and although it feels "slow" its actually quite fast. i think its bmw's perfection in engineering. smooth yet fast..(numbers dont lie)
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      12-22-2010, 11:29 AM   #30
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As rob612 said below, M3 is a high revving car. Too feel the push, you need to be between 6,000 and 8,300 RPM.
I would say that 5k is where the fun really begins.

Different cars need different driving styles. An F1 car would be very slow at low rpms and comparing it to a 335d between 1k - 3krpm, one may find that the F1 is slower but that's hardly the point. The F1 is a lot faster when driver as it was designed to be used, i.e. at high rpms
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      02-07-2011, 10:06 AM   #32
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I am not going to flame the OP because a long time ago I made exactly the same statement on a forum having bought an E36 M3 after selling an E36 325i.

The power from M cars is far more progressive and as said you need to learn how to extract the most out of them. In a 325i you just mash the throttle and it will go. Its all about building up the power in an M car so when you get to the magic 4-5K rpm all hell is ready to be let loose.

Its one of the reasons I am thinking of chaging my 135 for an E92 M3. My 135 makes more torgue than an M3 and it makes peak torque from 1300rpm onwards so the power is instant. I love the ability to have max power all the time whenever you want it but also miss the progressive build up you get with an M car.
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      02-07-2011, 11:08 AM   #33
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The M3 has 2000+ more rpm to play (I'm on the assumption the 325i redlines at 6000ish?) with so the power delivery is going to be different. Depending on what you want to use the car for maybe it isn't a perfect match?
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      02-07-2011, 11:21 AM   #34
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Sounds like you need a car with some torque so you can really feel like you got your moneys worth! haha You should buy a diesel truck, it will feel way faster than your 325
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      02-13-2011, 04:04 PM   #35
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I'm sorry but if your in an e92 M3 and you put the pedal to the metal then your gone, simple as that.

You sure you didn't have it in reverse?
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      02-13-2011, 04:19 PM   #36
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Look, dont be scared of it, if its a DCT, floor it and hold on!
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      02-13-2011, 04:32 PM   #37
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when i test drove the new Z4 (the one with the twin turbo) my sales rep told me to "floor" the pedal , you can always supercharged the "M" to 600+ bhp

off topic : Steveo....not forgotten about you m8, my tuner returned on Fri...went to see him on sat morning but he just pop out ,so i left a message so will give him a ring on monday

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      02-13-2011, 04:38 PM   #38
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M3 is not Very fast car,but it is fast car in its class,driving on street is very hard to show M3 poteintial,(personally i think m3 will show its poteinitial on race track),maybe u need to consider C63 or RS5 or even 335i,i think they are good for street driving.....
M3 is not for everyone...
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      02-13-2011, 04:40 PM   #39
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If you are looking for straight line quicks and put you back in your seat fast then this is not the car for you. If you are looking for the complete driving experience, railing turns, and the awesome sound of high revs then climb on in.
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test drove an e92 M3 today with a view of px my e92 325i in for one. Although the car is fast, I wasn't as blown away as i thought I would be. only when i put the gear change on full speed and used the M3 did it feel really fast. Was I expecting to much, have wanted an for about 15 years M3 since I was 10 and now i can finally afford one feel a bit under whelmed.
I have to admit the M3 I first drove was pretty slow, and I was really put off, but later found out that it had only 70 miles on the clock, so maybe you drove a new car that had not been run in properly. I spent quite a while driving everything from the Nissan GTR, Aston Martin V8, C63 and RS5 but the M3 has so much more to offer.

See if you can find one with a few extra miles on... then see how you feel

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Hehe.. you beat me to it!!

But on a serious note, it is alot quicker than it feels. It does lack alot of low end torque compared to the 335i but it seriously makes up for it through the higher rev range.
As said before though, if you want it to feel alot quicker then maybe its not the car for you. Maybe the GTR or the AMG is a better car for you... GTR has everything... power, handling and I like the look but the back seats are points less unless you have your legs amputated. The AMG has so much raw power but you cant put it down and you will probably go through loads of tyres.

You need to seriously think about what you want from a car. The M3 isnt for everyone. Maybe the new one when it eventually comes out will feel quicker.
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