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      12-06-2010, 12:43 PM   #23
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This is my car, lights are NOT OSS, they are custom LED rings.
where did you get your custom LED rings? I really want to install a set of angel eyes like these, but lux and AIB dont have that same effect. I live in Vancouver and I dont know where I can get them there nor do I know where I can bring them to, to get them installed.
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wow wow wow, where can I purchase them? and i dont think i even have the basic skill to install anything. I think i'll bring them to a body stop to get them put on. I am very interested, did you order them online?
ls3 can be purchased from bavarianx.com

orion v2's can be purchased from umnitza.com
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wow wow wow, where can I purchase them? and i dont think i even have the basic skill to install anything. I think i'll bring them to a body stop to get them put on. I am very interested, did you order them online?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E...item3f03135406
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We should get a group buy/install for these kits.

Anyone in SoCal want to install them????
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We should get a group buy/install for these kits.

Anyone in SoCal want to install them????
there's a so cal member on 5series.net that does orion installs for e60's...wonder what he would charge for e9x installs..


I honestly like the LS3 set-up more than orion's....also not a fan of various CS reviews for umnitza...

and bavarianx already offers an install service for the LS3 kit (there are located in brea IIRC), I know the orion v2 kit is cheaper than th LS3 kit, I'm sure they could do an orion install as well...
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I believe the member in this FS thread has the angel eyes you are looking for: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=459054
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there's a so cal member on 5series.net that does orion installs for e60's...wonder what he would charge for e9x installs..


I honestly like the LS3 set-up more than orion's....also not a fan of various CS reviews for umnitza...

and bavarianx already offers an install service for the LS3 kit (there are located in brea IIRC), I know the orion v2 kit is cheaper than th LS3 kit, I'm sure they could do an orion install as well...
Why do you like the LS3 more than orion (OSS)? they seem basically identical from the pics.
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wait so by installing OSS angel eyes or LS3s, the warranty components are gone?
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wait so by installing OSS angel eyes or LS3s, the warranty components are gone?
Clearly. Spoken in brutish, laymans terms, you're taking a completely sealed headlight, ripping it open, tearing out the existing rings, and then clobbering everything all back together. As an extreme example, if you tore your engine's head apart and modified it, then later on your motor blew, you wouldn't expect BMW to honor warranty on that, would you?
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Am I the only one who prefers the OEM "yellow" angel eyes to the blue???
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Clearly. Spoken in brutish, laymans terms, you're taking a completely sealed headlight, ripping it open, tearing out the existing rings, and then clobbering everything all back together. As an extreme example, if you tore your engine's head apart and modified it, then later on your motor blew, you wouldn't expect BMW to honor warranty on that, would you?
So just installing any angel eyes, i would lose warranty?
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Why do you like the LS3 more than orion (OSS)? they seem basically identical from the pics.
they are almost identical, but the LS3 v2's outter ring actually goes all the way around IIRC, and the LED count between orion and ls3 is different, but in the end it comes down to personal preference...
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Clearly. Spoken in brutish, laymans terms, you're taking a completely sealed headlight, ripping it open, tearing out the existing rings, and then clobbering everything all back together. As an extreme example, if you tore your engine's head apart and modified it, then later on your motor blew, you wouldn't expect BMW to honor warranty on that, would you?


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So just installing any angel eyes, i would lose warranty?
If you want to get into technicality, then yes, it does void your warranty for headlights. The point is whether the dealership knowsor cares if you modified something or not. Most (not all) dealers (here in SoCal as an example) won't make a big deal about it until there is a component failure, and you come back wanting free repairs done due to failures caused by a non-BMW approved part.

If you have a failure caused by AiB or Alpine, you have a much higher chance of getting away with it using warranty than if you have component failure caused by OSS. If your OSS fails, and it's damage outside of what OSS covers, you're pretty screwed. And if something happens and you had GP Thunders....well....I doubt that would ever happen, since they are a simple bulb replacement.

Benefit of GP Thunder, AiB or Alpine kit would be reversibility (and with it, improved though still likely imperfect ability to hide the fact that anything was ever modified).
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If you want to get into technicality, then yes, it does void your warranty for headlights. The point is whether the dealership knowsor cares if you modified something or not. Most (not all) dealers (here in SoCal as an example) won't make a big deal about it until there is a component failure, and you come back wanting free repairs done due to failures caused by a non-BMW approved part.

If you have a failure caused by AiB or Alpine, you have a much higher chance of getting away with it using warranty than if you have component failure caused by OSS. If your OSS fails, and it's damage outside of what OSS covers, you're pretty screwed. And if something happens and you had GP Thunders....well....I doubt that would ever happen, since they are a simple bulb replacement.

Benefit of GP Thunder, AiB or Alpine kit would be reversibility (and with it, improved though still likely imperfect ability to hide the fact that anything was ever modified).
I am interested in a set of AiB, if I install them, do I lose warranty? and what do you mean by reversibility if I install a set of AiB?
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If you want to get into technicality, then yes, it does void your warranty for headlights. The point is whether the dealership knowsor cares if you modified something or not. Most (not all) dealers (here in SoCal as an example) won't make a big deal about it until there is a component failure, and you come back wanting free repairs done due to failures caused by a non-BMW approved part.

If you have a failure caused by AiB or Alpine, you have a much higher chance of getting away with it using warranty than if you have component failure caused by OSS. If your OSS fails, and it's damage outside of what OSS covers, you're pretty screwed. And if something happens and you had GP Thunders....well....I doubt that would ever happen, since they are a simple bulb replacement.

Benefit of GP Thunder, AiB or Alpine kit would be reversibility (and with it, improved though still likely imperfect ability to hide the fact that anything was ever modified).
Well said

I have to admit the LS3s and Orions look GREAT.

I haven't seen AiB's in person, they would be my first choice. I'm currently running GP Thunders and they're ok - nothing special.

I hear a lot of people have been complaining to EAS because of back-orders and orders placed that haven't shipped - if they're selling out - that must be a good thing.

The Angel Eyes saga continues...
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there's a so cal member on 5series.net that does orion installs for e60's...wonder what he would charge for e9x installs..


I honestly like the LS3 set-up more than orion's....also not a fan of various CS reviews for umnitza...

and bavarianx already offers an install service for the LS3 kit (there are located in brea IIRC), I know the orion v2 kit is cheaper than th LS3 kit, I'm sure they could do an orion install as well...
Why do you like the LS3 set-up better than the Orions?

What are you running at the moment?

I'll get some more info on Bavarianx, they claim "fully-reversible" on the site, if something were to happen I guess I'd take them out to avoid voiding the warranty.

I like the Orions - they look great. Not sure the difference between those and LS3, why they are better, etc.
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Also, do we know if ORIONS or LS3 dim when you unlock/lock the car???

Do AiB's dim???
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I am interested in a set of AiB, if I install them, do I lose warranty? and what do you mean by reversibility if I install a set of AiB?
By reversibility I mean ease of uninstallation. AiB's are very easy to install and uninstall, so if that is your current #1 choice, that shouldn't be an issue. However, I cannot tell you how dealers in Ontario will react to non-OEM angel eye bulbs.

As an example, people on good terms with their SA and/or tech at a dealership can come in with full exhaust, angel eyes, suspension, wheels, air filter, and a slew of cosmetic modifications, and they couldn't give a care in the world. On the other hand, my former friend Steve once took his 335i in for an oil change, and his car was completely stock with the sole exception of VMR CSL-style wheels. His SA tried to void his suspension warranty.

So, again, warranty really depends on your dealership and your SA. My best recommendation to you, if you are truly worried, would be to call in and ask if they would make a big deal about it if you just had the part. If for some reason you run into component failure later on, you just remove your aftermarket part, put in your stock components, then go from there.

Of course, as a disclaimer, I would never condone breaking your car and then having your dealership pay for it, but as far as general observation goes.
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Also, do we know if ORIONS or LS3 dim when you unlock/lock the car???

Do AiB's dim???
when you say dim, i assume you mean fade in and out instant of full off or full on. the lux and oss both fade in and out.
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when you say dim, i assume you mean fade in and out instant of full off or full on. the lux and oss both fade in and out.
AiBs offer the fade in/out feature as well.
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