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      03-22-2007, 07:44 AM   #23
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its 414 bhp in US but in Europe its 420hp
And using 93 octane, its 404 and with 91 octane its 398


Kidding!

(But not happy about 414 to be honest.)
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      03-22-2007, 08:13 AM   #24
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(But not happy about 414 to be honest.)
hopefully the engine is a little bit more powerful than BMW claim, hence 335i and M5 E60
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      03-22-2007, 08:14 AM   #25
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The TQ number is awefully low isnt it? Lower than a 335 from the conversions you guys are giving me.
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OK guys, I was hesitant to post this because I could not verify it myself. Seems a bit fishy. However, I have seen the same data posted here, GCZ and elsewhere. However no sign of it at the Road and Track website. It is also hard to believe that this was pulled from an off the shelf magazine and someone does not already have it scanned and posted. Anyway the post here claims that R&T claims the info is straight from BMW. OP makes some very nice analysis vs. RS4, 335i, E46 M3 and E60 M5 power plants as well.

420 bhp @ 8300 rpm
295 ft*lb (400 Nm) @ 3900 rpm
compression ratio: 12:1
redline: 8400 rpm
low torque number...

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The TQ number is awefully low isnt it? Lower than a 335 from the conversions you guys are giving me.
There was a similar discussion when the S85 V10 engine specs were released but we have seen the M5 / M6 performance.

Power is power... It is about delivering torque to the wheels and the M3 V8 engine has a flatter torque curve than the M5 V10....

The key to the M3 will be weight and a 7 speed close ratio gearbox.... A 7 speed gearbox would be best matched with this V8 M3 engine given its "low" torque and high revs....

See this thread....trying to kick off similar technical discussions

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52544
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280nm@1800 rpm
340nm@2000 rpm
400nm@4000 rpm
400nm@6000 rpm
390nm@7000 rpm
370nm@8000 rpm
350nm@8400 rpm
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English pressrelese


In PDF
http://shrani.si/files/thenewv8enwcux.pdf
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Thanks Just_me

You can also view it online (no need to download) here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16206/The-...ngine-M3-GB-FV

Here is the PDF version of the English PressRelease.
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      03-22-2007, 10:02 AM   #31
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its 414 bhp in US but in Europe its 420hp

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...3_2008_bmw_m3/


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The engine, however, is rated at 309 kW, which is the same as the Audi RS4. Audi managed to certify that engine to both 420 PS (German) and 420 hp (US). We suspect BMW will do the same, because the M3's engine is nothing more than the latest bomb dropped in the German horsepower war, landing right on top of the RS4's pretty red V-8.
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Good article. Had some good comparisons. From that article it doesn't appear the BMW "dropped" the ball.
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