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      10-02-2009, 07:09 AM   #67
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I think I may go ahead and try to assemble a wheel/tire combination based on all the hard work of you guys. I appreciate the help! I visit my parents occasionally and have to drive a long distance through rural east Texas to get there. It would be just like the guy who got the flat in Montana--"What's that tire for? A John Deere?"

Regarding a jack.... I suppose I could always just call for roadside assistance to change the tire, but would prefer to change it myself. Obviously the new 3 series come with RFT and thus no jack or lug wrench. What would you guys recommend for something both cheap and compact that works with the M3?

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You can find them on ebay. I ended buying the OEM kit - a bit pricey but with a discount came with all of the pieces (jack, wrench, etc) in one package.
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I think I may go ahead and try to assemble a wheel/tire combination based on all the hard work of you guys. I appreciate the help! I visit my parents occasionally and have to drive a long distance through rural east Texas to get there. It would be just like the guy who got the flat in Montana--"What's that tire for? A John Deere?"

Regarding a jack.... I suppose I could always just call for roadside assistance to change the tire, but would prefer to change it myself. Obviously the new 3 series come with RFT and thus no jack or lug wrench. What would you guys recommend for something both cheap and compact that works with the M3?

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I have a jack that I bought for carrying around in my E46 M3; it's the OEM BMW unit that came with the E46s. The E90s have the same jackpads as the E46s on the underside of the car, so it fits fine. Having said that, I've read a number of anecdotes about the BMW jack collapsing, so if I ever need to use it I am going to be careful. I also bought a t-handle lug wrench at AutoZone or similar, since those are a lot easier to use than the OEM L-shaped wrench.
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I think I may go ahead and try to assemble a wheel/tire combination based on all the hard work of you guys. I appreciate the help! I visit my parents occasionally and have to drive a long distance through rural east Texas to get there. It would be just like the guy who got the flat in Montana--"What's that tire for? A John Deere?"

Regarding a jack.... I suppose I could always just call for roadside assistance to change the tire, but would prefer to change it myself. Obviously the new 3 series come with RFT and thus no jack or lug wrench. What would you guys recommend for something both cheap and compact that works with the M3?
See my post #4 here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...highlight=jack.
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      10-18-2009, 11:51 PM   #71
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      11-24-2009, 04:44 PM   #72
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For what it's worth, I just got a chance to try out my spare and jack. Last week I discovered a good sized screw in my tire, and that the tire was flat when I came back to the car after a work function at 10:30 PM.

I jacked the car up, slapped on the spare, and was on my way in literally 5 minutes. Without the spare and the jack, I was looking at either a) flatbedding the car to the BMW dealer and hoofing it home, in the rain, at midnight, or b) using the tire slime and ruining the tire and the TPMS sensor--figure a $400 bill, minimum.

As far as I am concerned, the $250 spare just paid for itself a couple of times over.

The E46 jack that I carry worked fine on the flat and level concrete in the parking garage. I'd hate to try and use it on a hill, though.

Attached is a crappy camera phone pic (and please ignore the bumper scrapes).

The car actually drove reasonably well on the spare. You could feel it pulling a bit, and I was extra delicate with the throttle and stayed close to the 50 mph limit, but all in all there was little drama.

EDIT: Since I took the pics upthread of the spare in the trunk, I bought the BMW branded Tire Tote. This is a good addition to the setup, since it keeps the wheel from getting scratched but more importantly gives you something to put your dirty road wheel in after you change the tire.
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For what it's worth, I just got a chance to try out my spare and jack. Last week I discovered a good sized screw in my tire, and that the tire was flat when I came back to the car after a work function at 10:30 PM.

I jacked the car up, slapped on the spare, and was on my way in literally 5 minutes. Without the spare and the jack, I was looking at either a) flatbedding the car to the BMW dealer and hoofing it home, in the rain, at midnight, or b) using the tire slime and ruining the tire and the TPMS sensor--figure a $400 bill, minimum.

As far as I am concerned, the $250 spare just paid for itself a couple of times over.

The E46 jack that I carry worked fine on the flat and level concrete in the parking garage. I'd hate to try and use it on a hill, though.

Attached is a crappy camera phone pic (and please ignore the bumper scrapes).

The car actually drove reasonably well on the spare. You could feel it pulling a bit, and I was extra delicate with the throttle and stayed close to the 50 mph limit, but all in all there was little drama.

EDIT: Since I took the pics upthread of the spare in the trunk, I bought the BMW branded Tire Tote. This is a good addition to the setup, since it keeps the wheel from getting scratched but more importantly gives you something to put your dirty road wheel in after you change the tire.
I have a question for you guys, what jack can I get that will fit under my car since its dropped. I had a flat the other day and couldn't get anything under the car. This spare set up sounds perfect because I'm worried getting stuck with a flat. Getting the car on a flatbed was hard enough.
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I have a question for you guys, what jack can I get that will fit under my car since its dropped. I had a flat the other day and couldn't get anything under the car. This spare set up sounds perfect because I'm worried getting stuck with a flat. Getting the car on a flatbed was hard enough.
Look at my post three before yours.
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It appears that there is a small threaded gold hole in under the trunk mat. My wife's old G35 used to have a screw attached to a plastic cap which would hold the spare in place using a similar threaded hole in the trunk floor. I understand that you would have to entirely take out the trunk cover (actually just pulls out) but has anyone tried securing the spare down? I have to think the inertia of the spare combined with an accident could cause problems that the cords may not hold.
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It appears that there is a small threaded gold hole in under the trunk mat. My wife's old G35 used to have a screw attached to a plastic cap which would hold the spare in place using a similar threaded hole in the trunk floor. I understand that you would have to entirely take out the trunk cover (actually just pulls out) but has anyone tried securing the spare down? I have to think the inertia of the spare combined with an accident could cause problems that the cords may not hold.
Hmmm, my '08 has no such threaded hole. Can you provide a photo? Anyhow, unless you have the rear seats down, there really isn't anywhere for the spare to go in an accident, so I wouldn't be too concerned about it. And in normal driving, it pretty much stays put with the grip of the rubber against the mat.
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Hmmm, my '08 has no such threaded hole. Can you provide a photo? Anyhow, unless you have the rear seats down, there really isn't anywhere for the spare to go in an accident, so I wouldn't be too concerned about it. And in normal driving, it pretty much stays put with the grip of the rubber against the mat.
It's gold, and halfway between the repair kit and the trunk opening. I'll snap a picture when I get a chance.
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It's gold, and halfway between the repair kit and the trunk opening. I'll snap a picture when I get a chance.
Oh, that 6mm brass insert in plastic is not up to the task of holding a wheel. You'd be better off strapping it to the cargo tiedowns in the trunk.
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      07-18-2010, 08:04 PM   #79
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Has Anyone Found a Good Mail Order Source for the Tire?

I recall that it can be a bit tricky to source (from previous looks at this and related threads).
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There was another thread running on this, but I thought I'd summarize here to make the info easy to find. Thanks to Tom Tarzian for a lot of the work on this. The goal was to come up with a compactg spare solution that would clear the stock brakes w/o a spacer and come as close as possible to the stock tire OD.

To clear the front brake requires an 18" wheel, or perhaps a heck of a spacer on a 17. The X6 has a 5" wide wheel that seemed to fit the bill. Only thing is its hub is slightly larger (74.1 vs. 72.6 mm), so a centering ring is the right way to go.

Finding a suitable tire was a challenge, because manufacturers don't seen to list info on compact spares, and most tire dealers are unclued. I eventually found a 135/70-18 as used on the Cadillac CTS, and was able to track down the manufacturer (Maxxis) and a local dealer (Les Schwab). I took about two weeks to order in.

I test fit the setup today, and it clears the front brake caliper by about 1/4", and seems just fine. The OD of the tire is just about 0.3" smaller than the stock fronts (a little more in the rear, of course), but seems well within tolerance, IMO. Tom had used a 125/70, but I thought that a little small.

Weight complete is 37 lbs. (47 bs. for OEM 19F). The stock lug bolts work fine.

So, here's what you need:

- BMW 36-11-6-768-861 black steel wheel; $155 list Edit 9/29/09: Kyoshi71 says this wheel is OEM, at about half the price: http://www.worldimpex.com/parts/bmw-...c_1533872.html.
- BMW 36-12-1-116-326 rubber valve stem, $5.35 list
- Centering ring, 74.1-72.6 mm; 1010 tire (mis-labeled 74.1-72.56 http://www.1010tires.com/hubrings.as...FU0wpAodcQqcmw); $30 shipped for set of 4 (you can sell extras)
- Maxxis T135/70R18 104M M9500N (#TP10655100), $85 + $10 shipping + $12.50 mount & balance

All-in-all, not inexpensive, but a nice bit of security to have in the trunk for trips, and about half the size of a full-size spare.






I am new at this and looking for a spare tire kit since I also hate the RFTs. Will the Bavarian kit work on the 2008 335xi sport package 18" staggered wheels (style 162)?
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I am new at this and looking for a spare tire kit since I also hate the RFTs. Will the Bavarian kit work on the 2008 335xi sport package 18" staggered wheels (style 162)?
Wheel and tire clearances are different on the M3 and the regular 3 series. You are more likely to get an answer to your question on E90Post.
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Man, I thought an enterprising member would have these spare tire kits for sale by now . Guess until I get stranded without a spare will find the time to put all this crap together . Well, at least I carry the BMW jack kit and 2 different flat repair kits, so I have the next best thing . Good day gang.
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Man, I thought an enterprising member would have these spare tire kits for sale by now . Guess until I get stranded without a spare will find the time to put all this crap together . Well, at least I carry the BMW jack kit and 2 different flat repair kits, so I have the next best thing . Good day gang.
I thought about it briefly, but the spare tire is a bit of a pain to source, and while I think this setup is well worth the trouble and expense, I'm not sure how many people would really be willing to pay $400+ for it (which is probably what it would have to cost to make any money on it, given shipping costs and whatnot).

Other that the tire (which at least in theory can be ordered from a Cadillac dealer--that's where I got mine), the rest of the stuff is pretty easy to get your hands on. Don't wait until you get stranded...
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I thought about it briefly, but the spare tire is a bit of a pain to source, and while I think this setup is well worth the trouble and expense, I'm not sure how many people would really be willing to pay $400+ for it (which is probably what it would have to cost to make any money on it, given shipping costs and whatnot).

Other that the tire (which at least in theory can be ordered from a Cadillac dealer--that's where I got mine), the rest of the stuff is pretty easy to get your hands on. Don't wait until you get stranded...
The Cadillac dealer here was not able to help me, but a dealer search at http://www.maxxis.com turned up local dealers.
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The Cadillac dealer here was not able to help me, but a dealer search at http://www.maxxis.com turned up local dealers.
+1. I ordered mine directly from Maxxis
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+1. I ordered mine directly from Maxxis
4/30/2011 UPDATE - The Maxxis web site now lists this tire under compact spares and the price is $139 per ff1600.

The Maxxis site has an online store. The tire isn't listed; so, I sent them an email today asking if I could buy it direct and got a response from Brad Barrett that I can order direct and to contact him to do so. I emailed him my shipping info and called a few minutes later with the credit card info. Tire should arrive early next week. Cost is $70. plus S&H & sales tax which I have to pay as the tire will be coming from their Texas warehouse. I'll post when I know the total cost.

The wheel is currently $73.06 at Tischer.

Mucho thanks to GregW / Oregon and the others that figured this out and published the info.

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Maxxis Tire Arrived + Lower Cost Hub Centering Info

The Maxxis T135/70R18 tire arrived today ($86.83 delivered). It came from a warehouse that's about 30 miles from my house.

The Tire Rack (I PM'd ben@tirerack - thanks Ben) has the 74.1-72.6 mm hub centering rings. They are $3.00 each plus about $5.00 shipping. I ordered 2 bringing my total to about $11.00 delivered. They aren't listed online; so, you need to call Ben (877 533 8473 ext 660) to order them. This is quite a bit less cost than the current price on the site that was originally listed in the thread.
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The Maxxis T135/70R18 tire arrived today ($86.83 delivered). It came from a warehouse that's about 30 miles from my house.

The Tire Rack (I PM'd ben@tirerack - thanks Ben) has the 74.1-72.6 mm hub centering rings. They are $3.00 each plus about $5.00 shipping. I ordered 2 bringing my total to about $11.00 delivered. They aren't listed online; so, you need to call Ben (877 533 8473 ext 660) to order them. This is quite a bit less cost than the current price on the site that was originally listed in the thread.
Good info on the rings - thanks.
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