Quick Question About 4G Networks...

[hl0m4n]

when verizon & att go 4g sometime in a year, will people have to get new phones to use 4g network to potential?

is 4g on a different frequency than 3g (2100mhz)?

this will also aid in my decision if i should get an iphone 4 now or wait a year and see what happens when the iphone 4 is on verizon and if there is a new version out by then 4g or 4s whatever .

[CollinsE90]

when verizon releases LTE it will start in certain areas, it will be awhile before they phase out the 3G phones...

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

when verizon releases LTE it will start in certain areas, it will be awhile before they phase out the 3G phones...

It will be a 3 year process.

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

It will be a 3 year process.

verizons 4g starts in Charlotte and Nashville, i didnt tell you that

[Dan in PA]

I really doubt next year's iPhone will be 4G capable.

[e92ttaz]

Verizon will have 100 million custs on 4g by 4th quarter of 2010. They are the only company who purchased the 700mhz spectrum from the FCC. This is important because it's more powerful signal which will be able to penetrate walls and it's used widespread throughout the U.S. It also allows open development for companies to build there own devices and use with Vz services. The person who said 4g will be 3 yrs away must be with ATT, cuz it will take them about that timeframe. Vz is a great company and I'm glad to see they are leading the communications industry. It's also possible Vz may be releasing 4g phones by Thanksgiving. Just some inside tip from a reputable Vz employee.

[Dan in PA]

Originally Posted by e92ttaz

Verizon will have 100 million custs on 4g by 4th quarter of 2010. They are the only company who purchased the 700mhz spectrum from the FCC. This is important because it's more powerful signal which will be able to penetrate walls and it's used widespread throughout the U.S. It also allows open development for companies to build there own devices and use with Vz services. The person who said 4g will be 3 yrs away must be with ATT, cuz it will take them about that timeframe. Vz is a great company and I'm glad to see they are leading the communications industry. It's also possible Vz may be releasing 4g phones by Thanksgiving. Just some inside tip from a reputable Vz employee.

[e92ttaz]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

when verizon & att go 4g sometime in a year, will people have to get new phones to use 4g network to potential?

is 4g on a different frequency than 3g (2100mhz)?

this will also aid in my decision if i should get an iphone 4 now or wait a year and see what happens when the iphone 4 is on verizon and if there is a new version out by then 4g or 4s whatever .

I'm with you on a 4g data iphone. Just bought my first Apple product (Ipad) and it's really amazing. If Vz gets an iPad I'm gonna purchase for all of my employees to use and replace their netbooks. Vz has 4g turned on in lots of cities right now that a lot of people don't know of. Just waiting for devices to be released

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by e92ttaz

Verizon will have 100 million custs on 4g by 4th quarter of 2010. They are the only company who purchased the 700mhz spectrum from the FCC. This is important because it's more powerful signal which will be able to penetrate walls and it's used widespread throughout the U.S. It also allows open development for companies to build there own devices and use with Vz services. The person who said 4g will be 3 yrs away must be with ATT, cuz it will take them about that timeframe. Vz is a great company and I'm glad to see they are leading the communications industry. It's also possible Vz may be releasing 4g phones by Thanksgiving. Just some inside tip from a reputable Vz employee.

Considering that VZ only has ~89 million wireless customers and they are still building out their 4G network which is LTE and they publicly said it will be a 3 to 5 year process I think you miss heard the internal communication at your VZ job.

To correct your information they will be able to support 100 million connection by the end of the year, I am not sure what they mean by connections and I do not believe that translates into 100M customers, since at any one time the phone could be connected to 2 or 3 towers and each is consider a connection until a hand off is made. It is called over provisioning and it required so you can move form one location to another.

Also they said they it will be only in 30 cities by the end of 2010, so the question is with a 4g phone work in a 3g network, may be or maybe not, since LTE is completely different then CDMA that means the phone would have to have two radios to be able to roam outside a 4g zone, kind of sounds like a power hog to me.

[danniexi]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

when verizon & att go 4g sometime in a year, will people have to get new phones to use 4g network to potential?

yes. LTE is completely different from CDMA.

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

this will also aid in my decision if i should get an iphone 4 now or wait a year and see what happens when the iphone 4 is on verizon and if there is a new version out by then 4g or 4s whatever .

i'd say get the phone now. yes, there will be a new version of the iphone 4 next year, as apple releases an updated version annually (probably like a iphone 4S for 2011). don't hold your breath for a LTE version (iphone 4G?) since that probably won't be released until 2012.

[e92ttaz]

Originally Posted by Maestro

Considering that VZ only has ~89 million wireless customers and they are still building out their 4G network which is LTE and they publicly said it will be a 3 to 5 year process I think you miss heard the internal communication at your VZ job.

To correct your information they will be able to support 100 million connection by the end of the year, I am not sure what they mean by connections and I do not believe that translates into 100M customers, since at any one time the phone could be connected to 2 or 3 towers and each is consider a connection until a hand off is made. It is called over provisioning and it required so you can move form one location to another.

Also they said they it will be only in 30 cities by the end of 2010, so the question is with a 4g phone work in a 3g network, may be or maybe not, since LTE is completely different then CDMA that means the phone would have to have two radios to be able to roam outside a 4g zone, kind of sounds like a power hog to me.

A 4g phone will be built with 3g backwards compatibility so yes it will work in a 3g coverage are but only at 3g speeds (obviously). What makes you think I work there? I knew what LTE is before you did a research and started posting like you know things. From what Im told Vz has over 91 million customers so the info you researched on is incorrect and not up to date. And who cares if I said 100M or 200M, just saying Vz is the sh** and they are/will lead the communications industry.

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