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      06-17-2010, 02:50 PM   #1
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aftermarket ECU Flash & effect on BMW Software Upgrades

Having an aftermarket ECU flash is all well and good, but what happens when you then need to service your car and require updates?

I have a VT2 575, and just installed LCI tail lights.
I went to BMW to code the retro fit tail lights, ad the computer wants to do a software update on DCT, ECU and wil not let us only isolate the retro fit option.

If I go ahead, ECU gets wiped, and I have to ship ECU back to ESS.

Can another M3s ECU be substituted at the dealer, just to allow the updates t be installed?

My dealer says the computer will pick up the different VIN number etc on the ECU, and won't allow you to
proceed.
Anyone with actual experience please let me know
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The ECU is VIN encoded -- just as the dealer told you. Once they begin the software update, you get everything whether you want it or not.
So can I install another ECU and then do updates to avoid over writing my ECU ESS files?
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Unfortunately you can't- you need the car's own DME to update the software.
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i was told by a bmw tech that they can manualy type in the output for the tail lights or specified locations
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Perfect example of why the ECU tunes are not worth the money.... Ton of money, for less than 20hp you risk your warranty, you can't update your car at dealership.... what's the point? you really think you're that much faster with a tune? Only time you need it is if you've done something totally custom such as a stroker motor or supercharger, but then I guess you don't care about BMW updates or warranties.
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i was told by a bmw tech that they can manualy type in the output for the tail lights or specified locations
They can, but BMW head office must do remotely and I run the risk they get suspicious as to why I want to exclude the other updates?

Also one of the updates is DCT software, isn't that always improving??
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I've got the same concern but at least I'm a lot closer to ESS that you are in the event I ever had to have BMW update the software on my car.

Is there any device available for the consumer that can be used to store DME files and flash the ECU without shipping the whole ECU to a tuner (i.e. somehow store my ESS DME file on a device, plug it into the car and write it to the ECU after BMW does a reflash)?
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They can, but BMW head office must do remotely and I run the risk they get suspicious as to why I want to exclude the other updates?

Also one of the updates is DCT software, isn't that always improving??
Damn talk about sticky paws ......
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If you take the car in for a voluntary software update now you will most likely get flashed with the new updated locked version. If this happend it would require anyone running aftermarket software to send the ECU back in to the tuner to get re-programmed. The DCT software is independent of the ECU and can be updated at anytime without changing your ECU file as long as you make it clear to your dealer not to update the ECU in the process.
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So that means that if I go ahead and bring my car in for the latest DCT update, I lose my DME tune?

Ewww.

That sucks.
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that is one of the many reasons that i have only used Dinan Software in my past M cars bc if the dealer flashes it back to stock for some reason Dinan puts it back in for free for me. so in most cases the idiot dealer does, so i just drive over to Dinan and pull in and in 5 min it is back to normal

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Having an aftermarket ECU flash is all well and good, but what happens when you then need to service your car and require updates?

I have a VT2 575, and just installed LCI tail lights.
I went to BMW to code the retro fit tail lights, ad the computer wants to do a software update on DCT, ECU and wil not let us only isolate the retro fit option.

If I go ahead, ECU gets wiped, and I have to ship ECU back to ESS.

Can another M3s ECU be substituted at the dealer, just to allow the updates t be installed?

My dealer says the computer will pick up the different VIN number etc on the ECU, and won't allow you to
proceed.
Anyone with actual experience please let me know
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Bob,
My car is ESS VT575 as well, all you need is just use the Autologic to do the coding. If you use GT2 at the dealer, I think it will wipe all out.
In autologic there is a seperate function that will not interfere with DME.
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