BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board > Video + PC Gaming / Computing
 
GT Haus
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-02-2010, 08:22 AM   #1
Comet
Troll Harder
 
Comet's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 GT3, 997 4 GTS, X6M
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal, Beirut

Posts: 596
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
my new rig setup, help me decide

So I've been out of the loop for a while it seems
I thought my GTX295 was impressive shit

and I was in the market for a new alienware laptop and noticed that the specs on it would blow my PC out of the water..
I expect it from their top of the line but not from the 16" screen one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130555

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131614

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115225

what do you guys think of this new setup?
(keeping my old 1000W PSU and HDD + optical drives)

I got 8GB of RAM right now, and I could probably go to 12 now.

any suggestions that are better than mine?
I want to keep my order under 1,000$ if possible
__________________
Comet is offline   Lebanon
0
Reply With Quote
      06-02-2010, 08:33 AM   #2
ragingclue
One cam is enough
 
ragingclue's Avatar
 
Drives: VF
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: mulletville

Posts: 6,774
iTrader: (1)

Unless you need DX11, your 295>465.

Also, I've been out of the loop for a couple months as well, but for the 1366, or any other Intel socket, I'd go with a GB board (link). But that's just my opinion. GB has better support and, for the most part, more reliable boards. Just not a fan of ASUS for the more expensive hardware. If you're looking to OC, you'd have to consult the oc forums, but IIRC, people are getting good numbers with the UD5 board.
ragingclue is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-02-2010, 09:07 AM   #3
Comet
Troll Harder
 
Comet's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 GT3, 997 4 GTS, X6M
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal, Beirut

Posts: 596
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
not going to overclock
I tried it a looong time ago and messed it up pretty bad...

I personally like nvidia mobos...

as for DX11, I mean, I play WoW mostly and a few games here and there.. like civ5 when it comes out and SC2.
__________________
Comet is offline   Lebanon
0
Reply With Quote
      06-02-2010, 02:57 PM   #4
swcc50
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2013 Audi S4
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: TX

Posts: 576
iTrader: (0)

stick with GTX295, and stay away from asus mobos. they are a pain in the ass when you try to change things around.

have fun. and overclocking is your friend remember that. just read up on it first. and dont clock too high heh
swcc50 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-03-2010, 11:18 PM   #5
Comet
Troll Harder
 
Comet's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 GT3, 997 4 GTS, X6M
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal, Beirut

Posts: 596
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
should I go with the new mobo/CPU though?
__________________
Comet is offline   Lebanon
0
Reply With Quote
      06-04-2010, 01:29 AM   #6
mrgoochio
135i Coupe Owner!
 
Drives: 2008 BMW 135i Coupe
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 983
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via AIM to mrgoochio Send a message via MSN to mrgoochio Send a message via Skype™ to mrgoochio
No PC game out could even come close to utilizing more than 8GB of ram.
__________________
2008 BMW 135i Coupe
  • Jet Black
  • Sport Pkg.
  • P1 Lemon Boston Leather
  • High Gloss Black Trim
  • Comfort Access System
mrgoochio is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-07-2010, 09:56 AM   #7
ragingclue
One cam is enough
 
ragingclue's Avatar
 
Drives: VF
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: mulletville

Posts: 6,774
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Comet View Post
should I go with the new mobo/CPU though?
What would it be replacing?
ragingclue is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-07-2010, 10:20 AM   #8
3lusive
Captain
 
3lusive's Avatar
 
Drives: Nothing
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Milwaukee, WI

Posts: 948
iTrader: (7)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by ragingclue View Post

Also, I've been out of the loop for a couple months as well, but for the 1366, or any other Intel socket, I'd go with a GB board (link). But that's just my opinion. GB has better support and, for the most part, more reliable boards. Just not a fan of ASUS for the more expensive hardware. If you're looking to OC, you'd have to consult the oc forums, but IIRC, people are getting good numbers with the UD5 board.
I wholeheartedly agree. I built my own comp with a Gigabyte board about 3 years ago and it's still running strong (N650SLI-DS4). overclocking has been a breeze through the BIOS controls, i'm running 3.15ghz C2D E6600, stock 2.4ghz on air cooling.
3lusive is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-07-2010, 10:36 AM   #9
Comet
Troll Harder
 
Comet's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 GT3, 997 4 GTS, X6M
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal, Beirut

Posts: 596
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by ragingclue View Post
What would it be replacing?

XFX MBN780ISH9 nForce 780i Ultra SLI Ready DDR2 1333Mhz FSB Socket LGA 775 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel BX80570E8400 3.0 GHz 6M L2 Cache 1333MHz FSB LGA775 Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual-Core Processor

as per my Amazon order...
__________________
Comet is offline   Lebanon
0
Reply With Quote
      06-07-2010, 11:17 AM   #10
Makushr1
Lieutenant
 
Makushr1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 335i Sedan Auto
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Texas

Posts: 480
iTrader: (2)

If you want to drop a little more, go with the i7 960. That's what I just purchased, along with a radeon 5850, 6gig ram, asus p6t.
__________________
2008 Montego Blue E90 ll Custom K&N Dual Cone Intake ll Aluminum OEM Pedals ll 25% Tint ll M3 Spoiler

To Do (Cosmetic): Black Line lights, Lux 4.0 Angel Eyes, 19" CSL HyperBlack
To Do (Performance): Exhaust (still undecided which brand), SSTT, FMIC (unsure what type)
Makushr1 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-07-2010, 11:37 AM   #11
ragingclue
One cam is enough
 
ragingclue's Avatar
 
Drives: VF
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: mulletville

Posts: 6,774
iTrader: (1)

So you've got a 780i, a GTX295, and an E8400?

That should run just about anything out there on the highest settings ATM... Only thing I'd upgrade there is the proc, which most will say isn't even necessary, but you can get a 9550 or 9650 if anything you do needs more than 2 cores.

One thing a lot of gamers get screwed by is keeping their old HDD's when upgrading rigs. Running faster hard drives (especially using RAID) can sometimes increase perceived performance more than these bump-ups in the top of the hardware chain. I have 2 rigs, one of which only has an E8400 (3.6GHz), 4GB of DDR3 RAM (1.6GHz), and a single 4870 1GB on an X48 mobo.... And, at the highest settings, blazes through the only 2 games I play (BF:BC2 and AoC).

I haven't played much besides those two games (played WoW up until a few months ago and it ate that up on max settings too), but we're at a point right now where hardware development is rapidly outpacing the needs of the games being developed. Like I said, the only thing I'd recommend is that you upgrade your proc, and that's only if you need the extra cores, and if you're playing at 1920x1200 or below, the vid card is more than adequate....
ragingclue is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-09-2010, 05:46 AM   #12
Comet
Troll Harder
 
Comet's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 GT3, 997 4 GTS, X6M
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal, Beirut

Posts: 596
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I upgraded my HDD around the same time I picked all this stuff up
I have 8 gigs of ram amd I do play at 1920x1200

as a former WoW player, I'll assume you are familiar with Dalaran Lag.
I get around 35-40 FPS in Dal. Marrowgar brings down my frame rate so low that it skips
everywhere else, I have 60fps though
__________________
Comet is offline   Lebanon
0
Reply With Quote
      06-09-2010, 08:17 AM   #13
UltimateBMW
Brigadier General
 
UltimateBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: MP4
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South

Posts: 3,287
iTrader: (0)

Your computer is fine. Moving from a dual core to a quad core CPU won't give you the gains that you expect. Dual cores were almost better than quad cores a while ago just for gaming since not many games can utilize the full benefit of a quad core setup.

Quad core is more for doing rendering work and long compilations where the work can easily be distributed. While the latest quad cores (nihilum) may put your dual core to shame, upgrading to one of these would be significant as you would have to replace your mobo. And again, you wouldn't see the gains that you expect. The E8400 was a pretty sturdy chip if memory serves, and great for overclocking.

If I were you, I'd wait and save up. Then upgrade in about a year from now when the 6cores come out. Spend like $1500 on a full system upgrade. And then enjoy it for another 4-5 years.
__________________
UltimateBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-09-2010, 08:19 AM   #14
UltimateBMW
Brigadier General
 
UltimateBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: MP4
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South

Posts: 3,287
iTrader: (0)

For when you do decide to move into a LGA1366 mobo, there is nother wrong with Asus. I prefer them.
__________________
UltimateBMW is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-09-2010, 08:36 AM   #15
ragingclue
One cam is enough
 
ragingclue's Avatar
 
Drives: VF
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: mulletville

Posts: 6,774
iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Comet View Post
I upgraded my HDD around the same time I picked all this stuff up
I have 8 gigs of ram amd I do play at 1920x1200

as a former WoW player, I'll assume you are familiar with Dalaran Lag.
I get around 35-40 FPS in Dal. Marrowgar brings down my frame rate so low that it skips
everywhere else, I have 60fps though
yes I am familiar with that. 35-40 was fine with me though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateBMW View Post
Your computer is fine. Moving from a dual core to a quad core CPU won't give you the gains that you expect. Dual cores were almost better than quad cores a while ago just for gaming since not many games can utilize the full benefit of a quad core setup.

Quad core is more for doing rendering work and long compilations where the work can easily be distributed. While the latest quad cores (nihilum) may put your dual core to shame, upgrading to one of these would be significant as you would have to replace your mobo. And again, you wouldn't see the gains that you expect. The E8400 was a pretty sturdy chip if memory serves, and great for overclocking.

If I were you, I'd wait and save up. Then upgrade in about a year from now when the 6cores come out. Spend like $1500 on a full system upgrade. And then enjoy it for another 4-5 years.
Yeah dual cores were much better due to their generally faster OEM clocks, along with their more friendly response to overclocking. The E8400 E0 stepping is quite a trooper, and most can get it to 4.0 on air, easily and stable, provided your motherboard and RAM cooperate. It's not until very recently that quad cores have shown worthwhile advantages in games, and it's only a few titles IIRC.

With how far ahead hardware is right now (vs software, especially gaming), you can acutally afford to wait for prices to come out, and the "next generation" of tech to come out, and nab up the "old" stuff. The bleeding edge hardware will only serve you any good if you're a bencher, hardcore F@H, or rendering and stuff like that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateBMW View Post
For when you do decide to move into a LGA1366 mobo, there is nother wrong with Asus. I prefer them.
Yeah I've heard some good things about ASUS, but generally people seem to be polarized on the high end mobo issue. Many love them, some absolutely can't stand them. In the end, if you're not overclocking, I'd go with the GB Ultra Durable (UD) series (which have even proven themselves in the OC department as well), but it's up to you. EVGA is another with ubelievable customer service and a great warranty, as is XFX.
ragingclue is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-10-2010, 02:04 AM   #16
Comet
Troll Harder
 
Comet's Avatar
 
Drives: 997 GT3, 997 4 GTS, X6M
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Montreal, Beirut

Posts: 596
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Thanks for the advice guys!
__________________
Comet is offline   Lebanon
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:09 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST