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      05-10-2010, 12:56 PM   #23
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anyone who's into cars enough to have ever seen top gear knows that even very good drivers can lose control of an AWD supercar, blame should be on the driver
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      05-10-2010, 01:04 PM   #24
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Not everyone should own a sports car.

I like to think I am a darn good driver but sometimes I wonder why do I think so much about what is next.

Throw down and get a Lambo? Be smart and look for a great deal on a 997 TT?

Then I have days where I ask myself "Why on Earth do you need anything in regards to a fast car"? It is something to get you from A to B and the odds of damage increase with the higher hp cars.

What if there were a check list on our death beds regarding what we did with our lives and better yet what we did for others. I doubt "He had a nice car" would be listed.

I am now jumping down from this soap box.
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I'll be different an blame Lamborghini for having a car so prone to fire hazards and I also blame the almighty for letting it rain that day. Hollaaa
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you yourself said the guy was an employee. If he gets to take cars out for rides just like that then lets assume he's been given some level of trust and hedoesn't think AWD is some kind of magic, and instead assume that he thought his wreckless driving would make the women want to touch his pee pee
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      05-10-2010, 01:51 PM   #28
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I'll try to explain it in ENGLISH:

It is 99 % drivers fault. But he was decieved, as he thought nothing could happen in AWD sportcar.
Let me explain the rebuttals in ENGLISH:

If he actually thought that, he is a complete and total moronic idiot.

What utter bullshit.
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I like to think I am a darn good driver but sometimes I wonder why do I think so much about what is next.

Throw down and get a Lambo? Be smart and look for a great deal on a 997 TT?

Then I have days where I ask myself "Why on Earth do you need anything in regards to a fast car"? It is something to get you from A to B and the odds of damage increase with the higher hp cars.

What if there were a check list on our death beds regarding what we did with our lives and better yet what we did for others. I doubt "He had a nice car" would be listed.

I am now jumping down from this soap box.
I think it's very healthy for you to be thinking about those type of things actually.
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Ok I failed. I just feel concerned because it could also happen to me with my RWD. It could also happen to you when you got your M3. It is so exciting.
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You failed because you are placing the blame in the wrong place. And you failed because you actually think the blame should be anywhere but on the driver. You failed because your logic is stupid.
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      05-10-2010, 03:29 PM   #31
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You failed because you are placing the blame in the wrong place. And you failed because you actually think the blame should be anywhere but on the driver. You failed because your logic is stupid.
Maginot Logic.
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Maginot Logic.
I live in France but I am not french.
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I'll try to explain it in ENGLISH:

It is 99 % drivers fault. But he was decieved, as he thought nothing could happen in AWD sportcar.


You need to backtrack on this argument.
I have never heard anyone say an AWD sports car would keep an inexperienced driver safe when they are driving unsafely.
I have a GT-R and it will bite me in the ass if I'm not careful.
I would actually make a counter argument that AWD cars are a little trickier to drive because it's hard to tell where their edge is.
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since the driver was an employee of VAG, you could blame him and VAG at the same time. I win. Yay for me. But seriously, who drives crazy in a supercar in the wet??? How stupid.
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You my friend are part of the problem, not the cure.
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he thought his wreckless driving would make the women want to touch his pee pee
This is what I think as well...
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You can blame the idiot driver for his immediate and final actions, but if he was an employee driving the car on company time, you also have to blame VAG for letting him have the keys. The company can't control the stupidity of owners after they buy a Lambo from them, but they can and should control how the car is used while they possess it. It sounds like that car was a loaded gun VAG left laying around.
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      05-11-2010, 08:57 PM   #38
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An employee of Lamborghini went for a test drive, to show to his passenger, a 28 year old woman, the new Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera. The roads were wet and he lost control of the car. He ended up in a pole and the car took fire. The driver died at once and the female passenger some time later, she could not survive the injuries. It happened in Wuppertal (Germany).

This is very sad, and what is even more sad is that I use this tragedy as a proof.
I put the fault of this accident not on the driver but on some people on this Forum and on VAG. Guess yourself why.

RWD is a preference but AWD is not an argument unless. Yet some make it one.
This is what happens when people believe in lie, that they can be race drivers by having an AWD sportcar (GT-R, 911 Turbo, R8, Gallardo).

Security does not come from AWD but from the driver.

uhhh sorry??
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      05-11-2010, 09:23 PM   #39
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Unless you're a dipshit, it's pretty hard to wreck an AWD car. Either you're entering a corner too fast, or you fuck up a transition bad enough to the point that the weight is shifting every which way. Or you go airborne, like how this went, I guess.
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