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      04-28-2010, 04:09 AM   #45
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I hear you, even with just bolt on's, my PS2's would spin! When I ran Drag Radials on the street same thing, unless they were warmed up real good. If cold the RE-11' do spin, but when warmed up they just hook, at least for me they have.
Wow, great performance. Regarding the tires, I'm still trying to figure out why I paid so much for these PS2s (aside from being quiet). I've been recording launches for 6 weeks since I got my vbox and wheel spin has been relentless. I'm trying to burn them out so I can try something like the RE-11s or maybe even dunlops.

Now I gotta go see if I can find some of your vids
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Drew - are you getting much wheel spin on your gear changes? As the acceleration surge from the DCT changes are quite impressive in your V-box graph.

If you are getting wheel spin, might try to change a less aggressive DCT mode to get a smoother gear change - say S3 or something like that?
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I noticed that as well, no wheel spin from what I could detect.
I believe those 3 spikes is the surge of power he gets from MAX boost at the top of the gear change. Once he shifts gears the boost drops back down.

You can't even see the shifts on my chart below because I'm only running 5.5 psi. Drew even gets a surge going from 4th to 5th gear!

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Not so sure about that bud, even in my NA/Bolt ON Vbox runs, the "surge" in the shifts are quite apparent.





If this graph was rescaled the surges would appear larger as well.



Here is the 7.3s Supercharged run again, but rescaled to match the 10.71 NA Bolt on Run, the surges are not much different.

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What does mike wads mean? What's he implying about surges ect?
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Not so sure about that bud, even in my NA/Bolt ON Vbox runs, the "surge" in the shifts are quite apparent.
I see. I did not have my Pbox when I was NA, but on the runs that I have made the shifts are not as apparent as yours. Most of the runs I have done were using D5, but I can't believe S6 would make that much difference.

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What does mike wads mean? What's he implying about surges ect?
Max boost occures at max RPM, so I was thinking that his blower was hitting a sweet spot (around 8 psi) before he shifted causing the spikes on the graph. However, Drew has shown that the spikes were there even before the blower was installed.
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I see. I did not have my Pbox when I was NA, but on the runs that I have made the shifts are not as apparent as yours. Most of the runs I have done were using D5, but I can't believe S6 would make that much difference.



Max boost occures at max RPM, so I was thinking that his blower was hitting a sweet spot (around 8 psi) before he shifted causing the spikes on the graph. However, Drew has shown that the spikes were there even before the blower was installed.
All good bud, I think you had a fair observation! It's really just DCT FTW. IMHO it's like adding 50whp, lol, along the same lines as the PDK on the 911.
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Sick Ride!!! Crazy Setup and nice Numbers!



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Just saw the video of your run with the GTR and E46 ... This thread make me wish I stuck with the Gintani X-pipes
I would Love to see that Vid! Hey where can I find this Video? Can you post it up or tell me where I can find it? Thanks...
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I would Love to see that Vid! Hey where can I find this Video? Can you post it up or tell me where I can find it? Thanks...

use the search button on youtube. search is DLSJ5 all his vids will show up
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Wow, unreal times. Congrats.

Have you considered the impact of prior debates and anecdotal evidence of a performance difference among various DCT drivelogic modes? What is your default mode for such runs?

Just FYI I have argued that modes with surge (i.e. S4->S6) must provide ever so slightly better performance since it is like power shifting a MT and the short duration of surge and slightly broken loose (or maybe on their way to breaking loose) tires will provide improved acceleration. Others have claimed that under repeated testing S2 outperforms S4->S6. I do think the shifts in S2 are faster than in S4->S6 but there is no helpful surge. Of course I think "repeated testing" was much more of a casual observation. Your data might help settle this small debate.
Thanks, I always run in S6 mod doing any vbox or performance type of runs.
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yeah drew!! great numbers brotha..i love it!! by the way yes i did see the gtr videos hahaha is all i have to say
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Thanks, can't post those type of vids here!

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60 -130 mph (96.5-209.2 kph): ALL BMW's

5.61 - RaceMX-M3 / E46 M3 HPF Stage 2.5 SMG /Race Fuel & Meth / 1 shift
6.07 - M&M / E30 325is / TC / 1 shift
6.2x - ST06M3 / E46 M3 HPF Stage 2.5 6MT / Race Fuel & Meth / 0 shift (4th Gear only)
6.36 - G-power / G-power Stage 3 SC / 1 shift
6.80 - TaZaM3 / E46 M3 AA Turbocharger 6MT / lowboost / pump fuel / 1 shift
6.86 - ST06M3 / E46 M3 HPF Stage 2 6MT / Race Fuel & meth / 1 shift
6.95 - G-power / G-power Stage 3 SC on stock internals / Manual / 1 shift
6.95 - hotrod182 / 335i AT w/ JB3 piggyback ECU / .28 Nitrous Dry shot / Race Gas / Water Meth/ Weight Reduction / 2-shifts
7.05 - Mikewads / E92 M3 ESS VT-1 SC / DCT/ Nitrous 75-100 shot / 3 shifts
7.37 - DLSJ5 / E92 M3 Gintani Stage 2 SC / DCT / 91 octane and meth / 3 shifts
7.86 - Maros / E46 M3 ESS SC 16 psi Built Motor/ 1 shift
8.31 - Biglare/ E90 M3 DCT ESS VT-600 SC / Bolt ons/ 3.62 Gears/ ESS DCT Software / 91 Pump/ 20" wheels
8.34 - Pencilgeek /E92 M3 6MT/ RS-46 RDsport stroker w/ESS VT600 SC / Bolt ons/ 91 octane/ 1 shift
8.59 – Dr Jitsu / E46 M3 BHS SC Built Motor 16 psi / SMG / MS109/ 1 shift
8.67 - DLSJ5 / E46 M3 VFE Supercharged Stage 2 / SMG / 3.91 gears/ MS109 / 2 shifts
8.81 - E46bhp / E46 M3 VFE Supercharged Stage 2+ / 6MT / 91+Water Meth / 1 shift
8.82 - sammyrusso / E92 M3 DCT Gintani Stage 1 SC / Bolt Ons/ HFC's / 91 octane / 2 shifts
8.84 - RomanESS / E92 M3 VT-575 /DCT / Stock cats/ ESS DCT Software / 3 shifts
9.01- Eugene Tawain E92 M3 6MT Gpower SC @ 6psi / Bolt ons / pump / 2 shifts
9.08 - hiboostingm3 / E36 M3 / Turbocharger / 2 shifts
9.09 - hotrod182 / 335i w/ JB3 piggyback ECU / 2-shifts
9.3x - RaceMX-M3 / E46 M3 VFE Stage 2 SC / SMG / 100 octane / 1 shift
9.62 - M6koo / M6 SMG (intake, exhaust, pulley, tune) / 2-shifts
9.66 - Fanatic7 / E46 M3 VFE Supercharger Stage 2 / SMG / 110 / passanger / 2 shifts
9.87 - Mspired / E46 M3 AA Supercharger Stage 3 / 6MT / 91 octane / 1 shift
10.3 - TerryBMS / 135I JB3/ TIP / Bolt Ons, weight reduction / 91+Meth / 2 shifts
10.3 - Stock M6 / 2 shifts
10.4 - RaceMX-M3 / Stock E60 M5 / 2 shifts
10.5 - fivaxis / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts
10.71 - DLSJ5 / E92 M3 DCT/ Bolt-Ons / 91 octane/ 3 shifts
11.05 - Pencilgeek /E92 M3 6MT/ RS-46 RDsport stroker/ 91 octane/ 2shifts
11.0x - slcook54 / E36 M3 / TC / 3 shifts
11.2x - M&M / Chipped 335i / 1 shift
11.28 - M&M /E92 M3 6MT / Bolt Ons
12.46 - Stock DCT E92 M3
12.66 - Eugene Taiwan/ E92 M3 6MT / Bolt ons/ 91 octane
12.99 - 05SCM3 / E46 M3 VFE Stage 1 SC/ SMG / 2 shifts
12.99 - Stock E92 M3 Coupe/ 6MT
13.7x - IDZ21 / Stock E46 M3 SMG (freak car)

Here's some other cars to compare with.

5.74 - Divexxtreme / Supercharged C6 Z06 / 1-shift
5.88 - Blacksheep / Supercharged C6 Z51 Corvette / 1-shift
6.65 - Acicchelli / Renntech SLR
6.89 - Vrybad / C5 Z06TT (APS Turbo, no cats, stock muffler, 573 rwhp @ 9.5 psi) / 1-shift
7.24 - Acicchelli / Stock SLR
7.3 - Porsche Carrera GT
7.3 - Ferrari Enzo
7.48 - Acicchelli / Renntech SL65 AMG
7.59 - Blacksheep / C6 Corvette Z51 (heads/cam, 484 rwhp) / 2-shifts
7.74 - HoustonT / GT-R / 640 HP (downpipes, y-pipe, BC, hard IC pipes, custom tune)
7.85 - Acicchelli / Stock LP640 / 2-shifts
7.8 - Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
7.86 - Divexxtreme / Stock C6 Z06 / 2-shifts
7.95 - Byzantine / '06 Gallardo 6-MT, catless exhaust & 105lb weight reduction, 2-shifts
8.24 - DrivenAgain / CL600 AMG
8.45 - TMC CL65 / Kleeman CL65
8.46 - Dads C63 / Bolt-On C63 AMG
9.92 - Byzantine / '06 Gallardo 6-MT, 2-shifts
10.13- Acicchelli / Stock F430 / 3-shifts
10.72- Acicchelli / Cayenne Turbo S GT700
10.93- Acicchelli / Stock Mercedes E63 / Auto
10.97- WK446 / Nissan GT-R with updated Launch Control firmware
11.81- HoustonT / Stock Lexus IS-F / Sequential
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I just went out and did a 60-130mph run using S6 instead of D5. The shifts are now very apparent on my Pbox graph. I will be using S6 from now on!

I might even try for a new record next week and see if I can dip into the 6s
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awesome numbers. how did you do against the 570whp GTR and HPF stage 3?
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I just went out and did a 60-130mph run using S6 instead of D5. The shifts are now very apparent on my Pbox graph. I will be using S6 from now on!

I might even try for a new record next week and see if I can dip into the 6s
Good stuff Mike, I have no doubt that you dip into the 6's, good luck bud!
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Nice work by everyone With practice and mods hopefully everyone will keep pushing the E9x times down.
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awesome numbers. how did you do against the 570whp GTR and HPF stage 3?
Thanks, when I started in the right gear, lol, I pulled the GT-R by a few CLth's, same as the HPF M3, however when the HPF M3 "brake boosted", it was very close.
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Nice work by everyone With practice and mods hopefully everyone will keep pushing the E9x times down.
Thanks, Roman.
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Thanks, Roman.
DREW, I just found out your in the top 10!

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