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      03-30-2010, 03:57 PM   #23
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I'll be up to date with the iPhone

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Nothing wrong with AT&T if you're an iPhone user. It's the rest of us that get bumped off because of the sneaky priotiy they're given on the network.
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I say good riddance. Maybe you iPhone users can go clock other networks and leave the ATT bandwidth for me
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I have a BB tour(vzw) for personal use and a BB bold(att) for work. I carry both with me daily. ATT is constantly dropping service/calls and is almost always a couple bars lower then my vzw phone. I also always get a echo when talking to other people with att phones but not from other networks or landlines. To say the least I haven't been too thrilled with the att service.

The browsing while talking I could care less about. Not really a feature I could use a ton anyways as I'm on the road most of my day. If verizon wanted the feature I'm sure they could add it on. Seem to me it's just a programming issue that they choose not to utilize.
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      03-30-2010, 07:32 PM   #28
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Nothing wrong with AT&T if you're an iPhone user. It's the rest of us that get bumped off because of the sneaky priotiy they're given on the network.
I'm not so sure that's true. One of the biggest complaints with the iphone is that it doesn't work very well as a phone. Sad but true, according to the various reviews I've read/watched, and I'm guessing the complaint isn't with the phone itself, but probably with AT&T's network. I very well could be wrong though.
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Here in Iowa at&t has pretty good coverage. I don't ever have dropped calls and I get good speeds for internet and stuff. I would probably stick with at&t either way personally.

After reaing the WSJ article it seems they have sources they think are reliable enough to report on... so I may start believing it this time!
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I'm not so sure that's true. One of the biggest complaints with the iphone is that it doesn't work very well as a phone. Sad but true, according to the various reviews I've read/watched, and I'm guessing the complaint isn't with the phone itself, but probably with AT&T's network. I very well could be wrong though.
I thought I remember there being an issue with the 3G dropping calls like crazy. I really don't have a whole lot of dropped calls on the network; I was making more of a poke at AT&T's deal with Apple for priority bandwidth. Really nice to pay money to a company every month who would sell you out like that, eh?

I wouldn't say I've had many problems with AT&T's service. The few dropped calls I do experience were always, in my mind, just chalked up to the nature of a GSM network vs CDMA.
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I definitely get dropped calls with ATT... for sure. But it's not happening all the time and it's a quick call back when it happens. As mentioned, I'm often on the telephone and using my data for GPS directions or looking up somethign online, so being able to use both together is a big deal for me. Overall ATT service has been decent.
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Just in: ATT upgrading network to try and prevent "exodus to Verizon". Looks like they'll put an extra $2 Billion in 2010 towards network upgrades over what they did in 2009.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/31/a...us-to-verizon/
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Just in: ATT upgrading network to try and prevent "exodus to Verizon". Looks like they'll put an extra $2 Billion in 2010 towards network upgrades over what they did in 2009.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/31/a...us-to-verizon/
Correct, but they are not talking about LTE or 4G here, they are talking about building support into their current infrastructure. It's a moot point (another reason AT&T will unlikely meet an end of 2010 early 2011 benchmark to build out LTE). You don't typically invest 2 Billion dollars into something if you plan on overhauling it again in 6-12 months.
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Just in: ATT upgrading network to try and prevent "exodus to Verizon". Looks like they'll put an extra $2 Billion in 2010 towards network upgrades over what they did in 2009.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/31/a...us-to-verizon/
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Correct, but they are not talking about LTE or 4G here, they are talking about building support into their current infrastructure. It's a moot point (another reason AT&T will unlikely meet an end of 2010 early 2011 benchmark to build out LTE). You don't typically invest 2 Billion dollars into something if you plan on overhauling it again in 6-12 months.
don't think for a second they aren't planning for that as part of expanding their 3G networks. i've read somewhere else that they're going to make LTE essentially turnkey with all the new expansions. i'm not trying to say that att isn't crappy, because it is, but they're not dumb at business. att gets the devices, verizon has a better network, but it's CDMA.
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don't think for a second they aren't planning for that as part of expanding their 3G networks. i've read somewhere else that they're going to make LTE essentially turnkey with all the new expansions. i'm not trying to say that att isn't crappy, because it is, but they're not dumb at business. att gets the devices, verizon has a better network, but it's CDMA.
Yeah, I wouldn't say they are dumb either, I just know Verizon is spending all of their money with a forward focus, not in "beefing" up the existing network to retroactively support it's customer base. Rev-B and C could have happened, but opted not to invest the money and focus $$$ and time towards LTE.
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Yeah, I wouldn't say they are dumb either, I just know Verizon is spending all of their money with a forward focus, not in "beefing" up the existing network to retroactively support it's customer base. Rev-B and C could have happened, but opted not to invest the money and focus $$$ and time towards LTE.
well beefing up an old technology doesn't make sense. HSDPA isn't old technology and it does make sense to strengthen what they already have as most devices upcoming won't have LTE. it will be years before there will be widespread usage and coverage of LTE. even in countries like korea and japan, it's still in the early phases. then verizon has to deal with backwards compatibility with devices...that is making any LTE devices they put out also work on their CDMA network. you're more likely to see more devices coming out that are both 3G and LTE compatible than CDMA and LTE compatible. either way, verizon is running on a network that uses yesteryear technology that >90% of the world doesn't use anymore. that's not to say it doesn't work, because the backbone has been built over the past 15 years, but GSM is and will always be here to stay. eventually, verizon will lose unless they go all LTE.
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Att is better than Verizon in some areas. I used to be a die hard verizon customer till I couldn't get signals in certain rural areas in Washington where I frequent. So I changed to ATT. Their prices are a bit better than VZ.
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actually the delay was in royalties. Apple gets about $600 for every iphone from ATT. Verizon cant get anywhere near that, plus the limits they want in the app store content.
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iPhone is a GSM phone. AT&T is GSM and Verizon is a CDMA.
Unless Apple makes a CDMA version of iPhone (which I highly doubt), there will be no iPhone for Verizon.

Blake is right.
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Unless Apple makes a CDMA version of iPhone (which I highly doubt), there will be no iPhone for Verizon.
I thought the same thing till I read a couple of emails yesterday.

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IIRC the article only mentioned a CDMA version in the works. Naturally most assumed Verizon. Keep in mind UK and etc have been rocking unlocked iPhones for a good minute. US is of the few who have a carrier lock. Also China runs CDMA...
Whatever, if it's not in the US then I don't know about it!


Hmmm, maybe that is our countries problem...
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If it does go to Verizon I bet all those Iphone haters who bashed on the Iphone all day are going to be the first people in line to buy one loll.
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