Okay, seriously WTF N54?

Chipped B6 · 03-20-2010, 05:03 PM

I was just looking at DLSJ5's numbers regarding his SC'd E9X M3..

I was like damn, mid 7's is amazingly fast.

Then, i ran upon this..

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363076

6.95 60-130 on a 335i still running stock turbos.

Now don't get me wrong, yeah he did use NOS and meth but honestly, spending 13K for a SC kit and 4K for exhaust and etc. etc.

I am a little surprised at what those N54's can do.

H Bomb · 03-20-2010, 05:15 PM

Turbos are just easy and cheap to mod over a NA engine. i admire a NA engine and one that is tuned or modded more then a turbo. to each there own, but i could care less to own the 335 turbo no matter how fast it is. i love this NA engine in my M

xxe92xx · 03-20-2010, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipped B6

I was just looking at DLSJ5's numbers regarding his SC'd E9X M3..

I was like damn, mid 7's is amazingly fast.

Then, i ran upon this..

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363076

6.95 60-130 on a 335i still running stock turbos.

Now don't get me wrong, yeah he did use NOS and meth but honestly, spending 13K for a SC kit and 4K for exhaust and etc. etc.

I am a little surprised at what those N54's can do.

nothing special...lets talk consistency

"NOS"

reminds me of fast and the furious

MMMorish · 03-20-2010, 06:00 PM

Bottles are for babies.

niqui · 03-20-2010, 06:04 PM

na vs turbo and all that, regardless, i think the 335 is still a damn good car...and i think most agree.
it has great tuning potential.

Chipped B6 · 03-20-2010, 06:06 PM

Well of course.

Only thing that comes to mind for me is that the N54 is running HPF M3 times with stock turbos...

WTF. LOL.

That's quite amazing.

MaxL · 03-20-2010, 07:10 PM

Can 335 show that level of performance for 30 minutes non-stop an a track? No. Does it have linear, predictable and instant throttle response? No, especially with higher performance tunes. Is turbo-charging going to be commonplace in next few years? Very likely...

Bluechipper · 03-20-2010, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipped B6

Well of course.

Only thing that comes to mind for me is that the N54 is running HPF M3 times with stock turbos...

Not true.

HPF stage 2.5 runs 5.61 sec 60-130mph. Over a full second faster (no nitrous).

Only one N54 is running these times. Hotrod's 335 has always been way ahead of any other N54 cars. Also his car will no longer run this time, because his tranny can't handle the power.

Chipped B6 · 03-20-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluechipper

Not true.

HPF stage 2.5 runs 5.61 sec 60-130mph. Over a full second faster (no nitrous).

Only one N54 is running these times. Hotrod's 335 has always been way ahead of any other N54 cars. Also his car will no longer run this time, because his tranny can't handle the power.

Exactly.

His trans is on the way out..

smmmurf · 03-20-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by H Bomb

Turbos are just easy and cheap to mod over a NA engine. i admire a NA engine and one that is tuned or modded more then a turbo. to each there own, but i could care less to own the 335 turbo no matter how fast it is. i love this NA engine in my M

Yeah but if you are modding for power a turbo motor is a much better platform. "Oh but mine is NA" is not a valid excuse after losing.

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Originally Posted by DanE92

It must SUCK spending $70 grand and getting smoked by a tuned 335i...I got 480 crank hp and still get 32mpg at 75mph crussing...screw the v8...

I agree with you in some ways... I think supercharging the M3 is totally retarded. SO many better cars to start with if all you want is maximum power... and blowing up an S65 is incredibly more expensive compared to blowing up a domestic V8 or turbo'd import.

However, I gotta say that the $55-65k buys you other things besides straight line speed. And personally, modding isn't my thing. I like to leave things bone stock. The M3 is superior in so ways like chassis/suspension, interior seats/steering wheel/leather, and transmissions. The exterior looks like 10x better too with the aggressive fender flares and bumpers. The whole car is better than the 335i, but the 335i can obviously go much faster for fewer mod dollars. Not to mention actually having a limited slip differential from the factory. Just a better overall car... that's why it's more $$$.

DLSJ5 · 03-20-2010, 09:09 PM

That's my buddy Warren's 335I, it's always been very fast, I've seen it through all it's stages. His 6.95 run is blazing fast, his car was around 550whp with a fat curve all the way to redline during that run. Very impressive.

MrHarris · 03-20-2010, 09:38 PM

I'm enjoying my V8 sports coupe while I can before there are no V8 sport coupes.

Meff · 03-20-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DanE92

All the M3 handling can be had for a couple of grand(Dinan)BMW perf parts etc. exterior can be also upgraded.The difference is what M3 can not do not what 335i can't...(what is your dailly driving mpg)Unless you got money to burn at gas stations 335i is the way of the future.V8 will soon be scrapped by BMW in order to make the enviromental left wing wackos happy...

How much did all of your mods cost roughly ?

vinnycg · 03-20-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by smmmurf

However, I gotta say that the $55-65k buys you other things besides straight line speed. And personally, modding isn't my thing. I like to leave things bone stock. The M3 is superior in so ways like chassis/suspension, interior seats/steering wheel/leather, and transmissions. The exterior looks like 10x better too with the aggressive fender flares and bumpers. The whole car is better than the 335i, but the 335i can obviously go much faster for fewer mod dollars. Not to mention actually having a limited slip differential from the factory. Just a better overall car... that's why it's more $$$.

DING!

I've definitely come to accept the M3 not being the fastest car on the road and the capability of other cars kicking its a$$. However, I driven the 335i on several occasions. Prior to driving the M3, I could swear there was nothing better than the 335i and my argument was "why buy an M3 when I could save dollars and mod the 335i that will smoke it". Today, if I get smoked buy a modded 335i or anything equivalent, so what. The feel of the m3 is so special, it really just doesnt matter to me.

-Vin

DevJ · 03-20-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DanE92

I am not saying M3 is a bad car.335i is just a better overall value and for moding bug like me it is just more fun.I can make it what I allways wanted my car to be in so many ways.If you want decent stock perf M3 is the way to go...But not for me..As I love the way the turbos make lots of power and huge torque...

cool story bro

03-20-2010, 05:03 PM	#1
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03-20-2010, 05:15 PM	#2
H Bomb Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 08 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: FL to NY Posts: 1,686 iTrader: (4)	Turbos are just easy and cheap to mod over a NA engine. i admire a NA engine and one that is tuned or modded more then a turbo. to each there own, but i could care less to own the 335 turbo no matter how fast it is. i love this NA engine in my M __________________ Street- 08 E92 M3- Sparkling Graphite/ Fox Red/6sp Track- 10 CRF 250-PR2 Race Motor/Ohlins TTX Susp Hauler- 06 Ford Skyjacker F250 4WD

03-20-2010, 06:00 PM	#4
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03-20-2010, 06:04 PM	#5
niqui Brigadier General Drives: Jet Black E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 3,096 iTrader: (7)	na vs turbo and all that, regardless, i think the 335 is still a damn good car...and i think most agree. it has great tuning potential. __________________ Jet Black E92 M3

03-20-2010, 06:06 PM	#6
Chipped B6 Favorite ride of all time?: Blondes. Drives: 09' M3, 09' 328i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,006 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 Z4 35is [4.80] 2011 M3 Coupe [0.00] 2009 328i Sedan [3.50]	Well of course. Only thing that comes to mind for me is that the N54 is running HPF M3 times with stock turbos... WTF. LOL. That's quite amazing. __________________ Gone: 09' E92 M3, 07' X3, 07' 335i Current: 11' E92 M3, 11' Z4 35is, 09' 328i, 11' Honda Odyssey

03-20-2010, 07:10 PM	#7
MaxL Captain Drives: M3 e90 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 835 iTrader: (0)	Can 335 show that level of performance for 30 minutes non-stop an a track? No. Does it have linear, predictable and instant throttle response? No, especially with higher performance tunes. Is turbo-charging going to be commonplace in next few years? Very likely...

03-20-2010, 09:09 PM	#11
DLSJ5 Colonel Drives: 08 E92 DCT M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA Posts: 2,786 iTrader: (0)	That's my buddy Warren's 335I, it's always been very fast, I've seen it through all it's stages. His 6.95 run is blazing fast, his car was around 550whp with a fat curve all the way to redline during that run. Very impressive. __________________ 08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ @ 7.2psi - 94 octane / Water meth ESS VT3-725 60-130MPH 6.64s - 620Whp/420Wtq@ 11psi ESS VT3-750 - 685Whp/466Wtq@13.5 psi SAE - 703WHP /478WTQ@13.5 psi STD

03-20-2010, 09:38 PM	#12
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