Why is it o.k. to use racist terms like "ricer"?

cowboy32 · 02-08-2007, 03:55 PM

I don't think anyone can argue that this is a racist term. So why is it
tolerated by so many people? Let the flaming begin.lol

KL2DC · 02-08-2007, 03:58 PM

rice or ricer is not a racist term. It refers to a particular direction or philosophy in car modding/culture. Nothing more. I think you're reading too much into the term...

From wikipedia:

"Rice burner is a pejorative used initially to describe Asian-made — specifically Japanese-made — motorcycles and automobiles. Many variations have also been used, such as rice rocket for Japanese sport bikes.

More contemporary use of the term rice burner, along with the prefix rice, has taken on an alternate pejorative meaning for an automobile that has been modified to give impression of high performance, but does not necessarily have any high-performance capabilities. This practice is in contrast to the "stealth" or "sleeper" style of automotive modification, where a vehicle may have major performance modifications, but the appearance remains similar to that of a stock model. In this manner, the appellation can apply to any vehicle regardless of country of origin. The most commonly modified cars are sport compacts, but the term can apply to any class of vehicle, including trucks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricer

Walked U · 02-08-2007, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboy32

Let the flaming begin.lol

Dude are you serious?

cowboy32 · 02-08-2007, 04:26 PM

yes I'm serious. I could be wrong but it sounds racist to me. What would you
call a car made in mexico that was modded....a burrito?

CoralRedPlz · 02-08-2007, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboy32

I don't think anyone can argue that this is a racist term.

i do not think this means what you think it means.

KL2DC · 02-08-2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboy32

yes I'm serious. I could be wrong but it sounds racist to me. What would you
call a car made in mexico that was modded....a burrito?

Dude, you're not being rational, read the wiki one more time....

GS833 · 02-08-2007, 04:28 PM

not racist at all IMHO

LEDZEP · 02-08-2007, 04:28 PM

Did you just start a thread to see how much you could stir up? I think KL2DC answered the issue perfectly. It simply is not a racist term, it is a cultural term - and not one aimed at a racial, geographic, national. or religious culture, but one exhibited by a style preference.

People of all races, creeds, and nations can be "ricers". That in itself makes it impossible for the term to be racist.

Over analyzing everything in desperate search of something to find offensive is 99% of what is currently wrong with America. Knock it off.

obLu · 02-08-2007, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

Did you just start a thread to see how much you could stir up? I think KL2DC answered the issue perfectly. It simply is not a racist term, it is a cultural term - and not one aimed at a racial, geographic, national. or religious culture, but one exhibited by a style preference.

People of all races, creeds, and nations can be "ricers". That in itself makes it impossible for the term to be racist.

Over analyzing everything in desperate search of something to find offensive is 99% of what is currently wrong with America. Knock it off.

+11ty billion

Brunotheboxer · 02-08-2007, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboy32

What would you
call a car made in mexico that was modded....?

Stolen.

Walked U · 02-08-2007, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboy32

yes I'm serious. I could be wrong but it sounds racist to me. What would you
call a car made in mexico that was modded....a burrito?

Your over analyzing this a bit too much.

KL2DC · 02-08-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

Stolen.

That is so wrong....but so funny

Walked U · 02-08-2007, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

Did you just start a thread to see how much you could stir up? I think KL2DC answered the issue perfectly. It simply is not a racist term, it is a cultural term - and not one aimed at a racial, geographic, national. or religious culture, but one exhibited by a style preference.

People of all races, creeds, and nations can be "ricers". That in itself makes it impossible for the term to be racist.

Over analyzing everything in desperate search of something to find offensive is 99% of what is currently wrong with America. Knock it off.

+1

For sure.

ScBlacksunshine · 02-08-2007, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboy32

I don't think anyone can argue that this is a racist term. So why is it
tolerated by so many people? Let the flaming begin.lol

Hmmm....are you the same guy who complained to the FCC about that Hershey Superbowl commercial?

Thanks for creating a over-PC/humorless country

Majikthese42 · 02-08-2007, 04:37 PM

Well, I like "ass-engined Nazi slot car" (PJ O'Rourke) for Porsche!

shragon · 02-08-2007, 04:41 PM

i'm half asian, and i don't find the term offensive. neither do my asian friends. and we use the term.

what's lame though, is sometimes the term is used too liberally now-a-days. such as, some will comment on a nicely fixed up import (well, imho) or even just a japanese car, and call it rice.

the term "sour kraut" has been used in the past to describe german cars in the same context as "rice". are german people going to get offended by it? or german car owners?

13307 · 02-08-2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cowboy32

yes I'm serious. I could be wrong but it sounds racist to me. What would you
call a car made in mexico that was modded....a burrito?

Dude, who cares, this forum section is not for you to spout your political or social views. Look at the heading, this forum section is for BMW E9X discussions, please stop wasting all of our time. If you want to discuss racial slurs, please go somewhere else.

teknochild · 02-08-2007, 04:49 PM

regardless of any of this, japanese eat rice like westerners eat bread, a lot more even

would you prefr we called all the cars that looked like that "japanesey" im sure they would be much more offended by that, especially with some of the horrid things ive seen people do to JDM cars

i dont think there are anyamericans who have a poblem with cars being called american muscle

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KL2DC Moderator Drives: E90 325i, W211 E350, W210 E55 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro Posts: 17,684 iTrader: (22) Garage List 2011 328i (E90 1144 ... [0.00] 2007 E350 Sport 4-M ... [0.00]	rice or ricer is not a racist term. It refers to a particular direction or philosophy in car modding/culture. Nothing more. I think you're reading too much into the term... From wikipedia: "Rice burner is a pejorative used initially to describe Asian-made — specifically Japanese-made — motorcycles and automobiles. Many variations have also been used, such as rice rocket for Japanese sport bikes. More contemporary use of the term rice burner, along with the prefix rice, has taken on an alternate pejorative meaning for an automobile that has been modified to give impression of high performance, but does not necessarily have any high-performance capabilities. This practice is in contrast to the "stealth" or "sleeper" style of automotive modification, where a vehicle may have major performance modifications, but the appearance remains similar to that of a stock model. In this manner, the appellation can apply to any vehicle regardless of country of origin. The most commonly modified cars are sport compacts, but the term can apply to any class of vehicle, including trucks." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricer __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call!

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GS833 Lieutenant Drives: 330i ZHP Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 421 iTrader: (1)	not racist at all IMHO __________________ Formerly know as 330iE90 2004 330i ZHP 2006 United Grey GTI (wife's) - DSG, package 1. 1974 Chamonix 2002tii - (SOLD)

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LEDZEP Lieutenant General Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 Posts: 12,277 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [3.81] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	Did you just start a thread to see how much you could stir up? I think KL2DC answered the issue perfectly. It simply is not a racist term, it is a cultural term - and not one aimed at a racial, geographic, national. or religious culture, but one exhibited by a style preference. People of all races, creeds, and nations can be "ricers". That in itself makes it impossible for the term to be racist. Over analyzing everything in desperate search of something to find offensive is 99% of what is currently wrong with America. Knock it off. __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious

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shragon Moderator Drives: 2006 325i SG Sedan Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 27,448 iTrader: (6)	i'm half asian, and i don't find the term offensive. neither do my asian friends. and we use the term. what's lame though, is sometimes the term is used too liberally now-a-days. such as, some will comment on a nicely fixed up import (well, imho) or even just a japanese car, and call it rice. the term "sour kraut" has been used in the past to describe german cars in the same context as "rice". are german people going to get offended by it? or german car owners? __________________ www.cardomain.com/id/shragon

02-08-2007, 04:26 PM	#4
cowboy32 New Member Drives: jet black e90 335i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Marina Del Rey, CA Posts: 6 iTrader: (0)	yes I'm serious. I could be wrong but it sounds racist to me. What would you call a car made in mexico that was modded....a burrito?

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02-08-2007, 04:49 PM	#18
teknochild Your resident 4um troll Drives: 335 coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: fl Posts: 2,021 iTrader: (0)	regardless of any of this, japanese eat rice like westerners eat bread, a lot more even would you prefr we called all the cars that looked like that "japanesey" im sure they would be much more offended by that, especially with some of the horrid things ive seen people do to JDM cars i dont think there are anyamericans who have a poblem with cars being called american muscle __________________ RAWRrrrr

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