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      01-20-2007, 12:46 PM   #1
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The sound of the "competition"

Have a listen of the new Lexus ISF.



The car has no LSD though.

"We are a little disappointed that the IS-F does not come with a manual transmission variant and does not have a mechanical limited slip differential ( LSD) to evenly distribute the newfound 5.0L V8 power."

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      01-20-2007, 01:00 PM   #2
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sounds mean!
but thumbs down. looks ugly imo.
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The car is a joke if it is meant to compete against the M3, the lexus division is fing this one up.
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      01-20-2007, 01:21 PM   #4
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no manual equals no real sports sedan
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      01-20-2007, 01:29 PM   #5
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God help me here I listen to mental case here and I had to run to the rest room as I could not stop myself from

I think he needs new glasses, as that thing is so ugly and so bland ... god help us finance new spectacle or eye surgery for this moron. As if you can't tell from their website that he just ooouuuzzz's over Lexus.



Competition is good and when someone gets it right, it's good to pay homage to that and salute their success. But this Beluga, Slabsided RICE mobile????
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      01-20-2007, 01:29 PM   #6
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no manual equals no real sports sedan
They could have put a DSG tranny. I am sure the engineers wanted one but somebody highly up at Lexus wants all of their lux cars to be automatics.

No-LSD puts the ISF squarely up against the properly tuned 335i (not the mis-tuned 335i that BMW is selling right now). Come to think of it, if BMW puts out the 335i-ZHP with the right tune in 2008, these two cars will cost about the same.
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      01-20-2007, 01:37 PM   #7
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God help me here I listen to mental case here and I had to run to the rest room as I could not stop myself from


"This is agent 001"
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      01-20-2007, 02:49 PM   #8
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LMAO

Lexus dropped an "IS-F bomb" on Munich

"I am just a son-of-a-gun"

Then he closes with a comparison in looks to BMW and MB.

This guy is even lamer than the car. No LSD, automatic slushbox. I am sure BMW is shaking in their shoes.
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      01-20-2007, 03:14 PM   #9
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Meh.
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      01-20-2007, 05:09 PM   #10
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I don't like it

Seems like the firewall area (bottom of the windshield) is too high. I'll have to wait to look at it in person to give my final opinion of it's looks, although it doesn't matter, I'm not getting off the M3 wait list at my dealer.
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      01-20-2007, 08:35 PM   #11
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I believe that will come with an 8-speed auto transmission.
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      01-20-2007, 11:59 PM   #12
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Yea, your right an 8 Speed... wow.

Atleast it sounds good.
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      01-22-2007, 03:17 PM   #13
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That V8 sounds awesome. It's going to be fun choosing between the M3, the C63 and this (somewhat homely looking) IS-F. The M3 is the one I'm waiting for, with deposit down, but I'm certainly not set on it. Can't wait to see/hear the M3 and C63!!
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      01-22-2007, 03:34 PM   #14
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That V8 sounds awesome. It's going to be fun choosing between the M3, the C63 and this (somewhat homely looking) IS-F. The M3 is the one I'm waiting for, with deposit down, but I'm certainly not set on it. Can't wait to see/hear the M3 and C63!!
pal.. if your even considering this this IS-F thing...
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      01-22-2007, 07:14 PM   #15
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So...what's up with lexus and their new 1098321931 speed gearbox?
I really wanna see how it runs in track.
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      01-22-2007, 08:18 PM   #16
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pal.. if your even considering this this IS-F thing...
I will, if Lexus can make it drive like a German car......
The IS350 I drove at a Lexus event felt inferior to the 330i they had for comparison. At some point, maybe Lexus will get it right...
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"This is agent 001"
Good!

So, you know... please replace those spectacle or please stop spreading the crap propaganda of mediocre engineers suffering from lack or creativity.

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Cheers to the Beluga; love the animal ... but a car that looks like one

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Understand the practicality .. but the car???

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What is that on the side? A running board??
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Wow, amazing, A Performance car that's been riced from the factory
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I guess they were trying to copy the side scoop from spying on Nissan, but f'cked it up and turned it into a running board
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      01-22-2007, 10:09 PM   #18
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Good!

So, you know... please replace those spectacle or please stop spreading the crap propaganda of mediocre engineers suffering from lack or creativity.

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Cheers to the Beluga; love the animal ... but a car that looks like one

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Understand the practicality .. but the car???

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What is that on the side? A running board??
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Wow, amazing, A Performance car that's been riced from the factory
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I guess they were trying to copy the side scoop from spying on Nissan, but f'cked it up and turned it into a running board
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YOU OWN.
End of discussion, his post tells it all!
AMAZING comparison hahahaha
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      01-23-2007, 12:41 AM   #19
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I was thinking about this car the other day.

Regardless of how you feel about it, you know it will kick ss. My question is, who will buy it?

BMW M, MBZ AMG, Audi S/RS; all have very loyal followings. With all three makers recently or scheduled to release great new cars, I doubt any loyalist will be persuaded to go Japanese. Add to that are they only offering the car in auto?

I guess the Infiniti G crowd and or Nissan Skyline crowd may opt for this, but I just question who Lexus sees is the buyer for this car
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YOU OWN.
End of discussion, his post tells it all!
AMAZING comparison hahahaha
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that says it all!!

my cuzn said it: "why would a car manufacturer makes the sport car uglier tha the base model??!! "
the IS-F is f'ing ugly....
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      01-23-2007, 02:50 AM   #21
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I guess the Infiniti G crowd and or Nissan Skyline crowd may opt for this, but I just question who Lexus sees is the buyer for this car
That's easy. Lexus is looking for those who want to step-up from the G35, the IS350, the BMW 335i, and the Audi S4 and who have about $50K to spend. The next step above this in price is closer to $70K with the E92-M3, RS4, C63AMG, and so on ...

There isn't much available in sport-lux at the $50K mark and there will not be anything for at least the next 2-3 years. Lexus may just be trying to create a new segment right inbetween the $35-$40K cars and the $65-$70K cars. I am sure there will be takers despite the looks of this car.

Oh, and the Nissan Skyline GTR belongs in a whole different segment. That's a real sports car with balls-to-the-wall performance and no lux goodies at all.
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      01-23-2007, 12:43 PM   #22
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That's easy. Lexus is looking for those who want to step-up from the G35, the IS350, the BMW 335i, and the Audi S4 and who have about $50K to spend. The next step above this in price is closer to $70K with the E92-M3, RS4, C63AMG, and so on ....
Dear coaster,

But of course; the BMW 335i and Audi S4 are very good looking cars with very good perfomance numbers for their category; the G35 and IS350 are nice looking cars with nice performance. I think that a lot of people wanting a little more performance will save the money and get a XEDE for their 335i + other sweet mods and upgrade available to their precise taste.


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There isn't much available in sport-lux at the $50K mark and there will not be anything for at least the next 2-3 years. Lexus may just be trying to create a new segment right inbetween the $35-$40K cars and the $65-$70K cars. I am sure there will be takers despite the looks of this car.
Their will always be takers; remember the Pontiac Aztec? There will also be tacky people; but thanks god the modern consumer is little less prone to buying crap quality and crap looks in the name of performance. I think GM is strating to understand ... look at the new CTS, they've finally made a nice looking car (inside looks decent as well - let's wait for quality and real performance). OMG, did I just catch myself saying that? someone wash my mouth, quick quick

It was a nice attempt by Lexus and as I always say, "I support Competition", as it results in better producs and better value for the consumer. But actually having this "F" product out there also re-enforces the choice that we may make in Buying the New E92 M3 (God the Spyshot look hot ), RS4 (love the damn thing - sweet ride), C63AMG (the new C-Klass AMG looks good, just the interior is a bit ). I want all three in my stable... the IS-F can stay in the Pig Pen .

Let me say it again, the only place this car is creating a new segment is "right in between" two ass cheeks.

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Oh, and the Nissan Skyline GTR belongs in a whole different segment. That's a real sports car with balls-to-the-wall performance and no lux goodies at all.
Yeah, we knew that ... the comment was about them copying the side vent of the new upcoming Nissan Skyline GTR; which by the way the previous gen also looked liked a soupped up soapbox (like the 80' & 90's Mustang).
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