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      01-06-2010, 06:48 PM   #1
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New 63 AMG N/A Record!!! 11.24@124.32, Still Racing...

Congrats to Keith/DadsC63 for running 11.24@124.32 in his MHP S3 C63 on his first pass of the night at Moroso Motorsports Park in WPB, FL. These times/traps will serve as our pre-cam baseline.

Air should get better as the evening progresses, I will update thread with new times/ETs and eventually slips/vids.

Thank you for your time/effort and dedication Keith and family!!!
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1 pass is all he could make due to someone running their vette through the barrier at the end of the track--track is now closed.

More info on the first run 1.65 60' spinning on Nittos, 1/8th was 7.25@97.68. Keith switched to MTs but was unable to make a second pass due to the crash.

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      01-06-2010, 08:21 PM   #3
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Keith's new 60-130 soon to be verified is 7.21 seconds!!!!
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      01-06-2010, 08:56 PM   #4
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What mods are you running?
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      01-07-2010, 01:51 AM   #6
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Wow, that 60-130 time is ZR1 territory. That is damn fast. I might have to look into this complete tuning package.
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      01-07-2010, 05:54 AM   #7
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What mods are you running?
MHP: v3 CDT (ECU/TCU), 1 7/8" LT Headers with High Velcity Merge Collectors, 3" mids, 3" X pipe/Catback, 180F Thermostat, and our Race Ported stock heads.

Porting is worth 18-20rwhp on a stock longblock N/A 6.2 including stock sticks, but when paired with our billet cams will net us an additional 80-100rwhp.

Goal is 540-560rw with H/C on Keith's car. Then we stroke to 7.0L re-port and re-cam.

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Wow, that 60-130 time is ZR1 territory. That is damn fast. I might have to look into this complete tuning package.
Call direct if you have any questions 614 940 9523, or email andrew@modernhorsepower.com

BTW, that pass had a 1.65 60', 7.25@97.8mph 1/8th, 0-100 was 7.57 seconds.

He was also on Nittos, had he been on MTs he would've ran an easy 11.1X, and with another 10F temp drop from the start (50F) to the end of the night (40F) he would've had a shot at 11.0s as long as the pad stayed sticky.

At MIR in Feb/March, well, we'll all have cams by then but you get the idea.

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      01-08-2010, 12:21 AM   #8
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Video of 11.24@124.32 Run and timeslip pic:

http://tintprotector.com/blog/?p=153

They backed that up tonight with a 11.28@124+ as well.

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Jesus that is fast for a complete N/A engine!
How much money would these mods run me?
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      01-08-2010, 01:16 AM   #10
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Keith/DadsC63 (car in video) actually just posted his mod total on MBW:

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Okay Guys,
Most of you already know that I have tried many parts and now have mostly MHP products. With that being said you need to know that I have gotten some preferencial pricing but here it is. I just talked to Andy and he said it was okay to post and these are ALL my mods. Put these together and you should be able to replicate my times.

In Order of installation.
MHP V3 CDT Tune - Retail $4495 / paid $2995
MHP L/T 1-7/8" SS Headers/mids - Retail $5495 / paid $3995 (catless)
MHP Thermalnator Intake Gasket - Retail $299.95 / paid $279.97
MHP 185 Thermostat - Retail $299 / paid $279
MHP/Carbonio Airboxes with foam filters Retail $1950 / paid $1700
MHP Race Ported Heads - Retail $4995 / paid $3995
MHP 3" SS Cat back race Exhaust Retail $3495 / paid $2495

Retail $19,529.90 / paid $15,739.90

A LOT less than I thought. More than I'd like to admit to but very affordable for the performance I have received.

I also have HRE wheels and EvoSports 2-piece lightweight rotors.

Thats it guys. I have laid it all out there on the line. No holding back. If I have forgotten anything then its only because I can't remember it.
I did try a converter and didn't keep it. I did try the MKB headers/tune and got more from the MHP products. Gentlemen, learn from my experiences and expenses.
Thats all there is guys. I have NOTHING else. Now, lets go racing!!
So he's got around $15.7k into engine/performance mods from us. Compare that to MKB's $16k shorty header (requires welding of OEM cats as collectors) and tune combo, or Brabus's $20 tune/shorty package that makes 540hp. We're currently at 610HP/550lb/ft at the crank on Keith's car, with cams (add $7k) we will gain 70-90Hp at the crank with all other supporting mods in place. Yes I know that sounds crazy but the stock cams are ridiculously tiny with zero overlap. Fun stuff
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Nice!!!

Very impressive MBs V8 is a sick ass engine. Can these motors be boosted in any way?
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      01-08-2010, 01:59 AM   #12
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Nice!!!

Very impressive MBs V8 is a sick ass engine. Can these motors be boosted in any way?
Thanks!

AMG always intended to TT the 6.2L but you know how that ended up. There is no mechanical reason you can't apply FI to a M156 however that does not hold true for the software unless you run a standalone. Not enough room in scaling of A/F or WOT timing. Many have tried, more will continue to, however unless you're Brabus and can call Bosch up directly and request 1000 ME9.7 ECUs with specific A/F and timing range changes, it's just not going to happen. That's why we are going with H/C (goal is 700HP N/A), stroking to 7.0L, and spraying (100 shot on stock bottom end, 300+ with billet/forged 7.0L). Even N/A, ultimately in this application (C63) we're going to be limited ET/Trap wise by wheel/tire size--we have to perform body work to fit a 10.0" rim out back and not look like rednecks--not HP/TQ.
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It looks like the retail for all those parts is closer to $21k and not the $19,529.90 that Keith quoted. Simple addition errors I guess.
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      01-08-2010, 03:38 AM   #15
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It looks like the retail for all those parts is closer to $21k and not the $19,529.90 that Keith quoted. Simple addition errors I guess.
You're right lol I just did the math myself. The good news is you can get Keith pricing now, so retail doesn't really matter.
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Wow, quick times. 7k for cams is a bit steep, but it's never cheap to be the pioneer. Hope to see some affordable packages soon, I miss my c6 which had head/cam.
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Wow, quick times. 7k for cams is a bit steep, but it's never cheap to be the pioneer. Hope to see some affordable packages soon, I miss my c6 which had head/cam.
I hear you on SBC pricing

Here's why the cams cost what they do for 63s:

1) We need 2 cam blanks since intake/exhaust lobe spacing is different, this doubles the price vs just one blank for all 4 cams.

2) 32 lobes to grind vs 24, and 4 cams vs 2 cams vs older MB/AMG motors

3) We use rifle drilled 9310 steel and spare no expense in the accuracy of grinding or final specing by hand

4) We only make 5 sets at a time

So yes it does seem steep at first but cost on these things (since they are all custom almost one off pieces) is not cheap for us either. Our (MHP's) niche is no compromise race hardware, so our stuff will never be inexpensive, but it will always perform.


Thanks!
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Nice times. Moroso is great this time of year, if they bother to prep the track.

I used to live on Singer Island, and I'd hit the Wednesday night T&T at least once a month reguardless, but when it cools down like this you can run great numbers. I'll bet there's been a hell of a crowd out there though!
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Nice! Love the c63. NA mods will almost always cost more than Forced-fed mods. Especially a German car.
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Nice times. Moroso is great this time of year, if they bother to prep the track.

I used to live on Singer Island, and I'd hit the Wednesday night T&T at least once a month reguardless, but when it cools down like this you can run great numbers. I'll bet there's been a hell of a crowd out there though!
It was definitely pretty crowded out there. Have to take advantage of the air when you can

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Nice! Love the c63. NA mods will almost always cost more than Forced-fed mods. Especially a German car.
Exactly, and thanks!!!
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