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      01-20-2007, 01:12 PM   #23
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yep, also you can go to youtube.com and type in "new gt-r" and watch the 8 minute japanese spy video, its great to see it on par with the 977 911 Turbo, and you can hear the dual clutch gear box.
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      01-20-2007, 01:17 PM   #24
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Personally, I think there are alot of exciting cars coming out in the $50-75K est range. The GT-R, C63, M3, ...
Haha, for these cars I would change the lower limit of your range to $70K and the upper limit to about $85k. Expecially the new C63. This is what's gonna cost to take one of these cars home (ALL costs included). Lotsa people with fat wallets in this market segment will keep prices high.

Even the new Evo X (no lux) will MSRP in the mid $40s and good luck getting one at that price (at least in 2008).

Bottom line: the $50K lux-perf car is dead. Say hello to the $70K+ cars of 2008-2009. It sucks
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      01-20-2007, 02:19 PM   #25
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I was considering an M3 Competition Coupe before I ordered my 335i E92. It had Nav, SMG, and little else. It did not have power seats or premium. It did NOT even have Xenon lights. (which was nearly a deal breaker for me) It was right around 60k and the dealer was not really willing to do too much on the price, as they were getting hard to find in August, when I was looking.

My 335i stickers at a smidge under 50k, pretty loaded. I figure, using some past experience logic that BMW's going to MSRP the M3 at about 63k. Once a few things are added in, it can get close to 70k, not even considering the "premuim" that they will ask for at least the first six months. That makes the car nearly impossible to get at MSRP until close to 2009.

As everyone else, I'm guessing. I would love to have an E92 M3 for $63k with everything that I want in a car, I just don't know if that will ever happen.


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Agreed, with the competition package they could easily top $60k. I don't know that BMW will introduce a similar package in the beginning. It was used to keep an aging model fresh to the consumer; albiet a nice option.

I am first on the list at one dealer and third with another. Neither dealer is charging anything over MSRP nor do they add unwanted options. I can equip each car as I choose. I think the majority of dealers do not mark these cars up. Of course, for the unfortunate soals in Ca. or similar states, that might not be the case.
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      01-20-2007, 02:28 PM   #26
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Highly doubt that

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Obviously you don't want to pay 70+ for an M3, which is certainly where they will be.
I still think base will be in the high 50's
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      01-20-2007, 02:31 PM   #27
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Absolutely not

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That makes the car nearly impossible to get at MSRP until close to 2009.
Many on this board will get their in the first or first couple allocations and will pay precisely MSRP. However, if you snooze you loose on the price of any new M (at many stealers)
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Jellis,

I also have a '98 M3 which I plan on driving until the E92 M3 is available. I love my car, it's faster (with very minimal mods) than any E46 I ran against last year at Watkin's Glen, including on the uphill long back stretch which is a total test of horsepower. It's significantly lighter, and fun to drive. Why don't you keep your E36 and just buildup your down payment instead of buying a car to tide you over until the E92 arrives. A newer car which will depreciate more over the next year or so than the E36 you already own.

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Haha, for these cars I would change the lower limit of your range to $70K and the upper limit to about $85k. Expecially the new C63. This is what's gonna cost to take one of these cars home (ALL costs included). Lotsa people with fat wallets in this market segment will keep prices high.

Even the new Evo X (no lux) will MSRP in the mid $40s and good luck getting one at that price (at least in 2008).

Bottom line: the $50K lux-perf car is dead. Say hello to the $70K+ cars of 2008-2009. It sucks
EVO MSRP mid 40's? Your lost.
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      01-21-2007, 06:33 PM   #30
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I still think base will be in the high 50's
Loaded E46 M3 was $14,000 more than MSRP of regular manual one.
If it's going to be high 50's like 58, it's going to hit 72,000.

I know this because I configured one from BMWUSA when E46 M3 was available online.

MSRP of manual one - 48,XXX
My configured model - 62,XXX ~ 64,XXX

If 7 speed SMG comes w/o any charges, drop 4grand(?).
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I also have a '98 M3 which I plan on driving until the E92 M3 is available. I love my car, it's faster (with very minimal mods) than any E46 I ran against last year at Watkin's Glen, including on the uphill long back stretch which is a total test of horsepower. It's significantly lighter, and fun to drive. Why don't you keep your E36 and just buildup your down payment instead of buying a car to tide you over until the E92 arrives. A newer car which will depreciate more over the next year or so than the E36 you already own.

That's my $.02.
Yeah I am keeping my E36 M no matter what I buy and I wont be making any purchases for another year. I am beginning to lean in the direction of a used 997....

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