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      01-05-2010, 01:33 AM   #1
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Are Vanguard Ti and Vorsteiner Ti the Same Thing???

looking at both systems they look Identical to me (Vanguard has been toasted slighly)...Can anyone confirm or deny they are the same system?

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      01-05-2010, 01:36 AM   #2
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you can add agency and meisterschaft gt2 to the list also....same exact design
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      01-05-2010, 01:40 AM   #3
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Is the Agency Ti as well?

The Miesterschaft gt2's can looks different and has different hangers....

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      01-05-2010, 01:53 AM   #4
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agency and gt2 have 2 canisters so does the ericsson instead of 1 in those two you mentioned...im pretty sure these types of designs dont yield much power, there mostly for sound...correct me if im wrong
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      01-05-2010, 12:14 PM   #5
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Can The Vendors Chime in ??? Jon @ wickeparts is the Vanguard Your're peddling the same as Vorsteiner? Same factory?
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Nope they are not the same. I asked Vanguard this same question.
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Vanguard is a dual canister design and Vorsteiner a single can... so no, not the same.
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      01-05-2010, 11:53 PM   #8
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Vanguard is a dual canister design and Vorsteiner a single can... so no, not the same.
looks like a single canister..
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I have the Vanguard. It's twin cannister. To me the Vanguard looks more like the Amuse system.

I used to own a G35 with the Amuse Ti exhaust - the build quality is very similar.

Just because an exhaust "looks" similar to another exhaust doesn't mean it is - you have to look at the material, welding and bending.

As for the Agency power, my buddy has the Agency power exhaust on his EVO X - the welds and material are definitely not as good as the Vanguard or Amuse... I haven't seen the Vorsteiner or Meistershaft to commnet...

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      01-07-2010, 12:27 PM   #10
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Just because an exhaust "looks" similar to another exhaust doesn't mean it is - you have to look at the material, welding and bending.
Exactly look at the pipes, welding bends and Hanger location and style. they are a 100% match. I think most would agree !?!
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Exactly look at the pipes, welding bends and Hanger location and style. they are a 100% match. I think most would agree !?!
I agree the welds do look the same. It might sound odd but when I first saw the welds I could even tell which country both the systems were made in.
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In my line of work we have only a couple manufacturers who make instruments for different orthopedic companys, it wouldn't surprise me if the same manufacturer makes those exhaust systems . just a hunch
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Exactly look at the pipes, welding bends and Hanger location and style. they are a 100% match. I think most would agree !?!
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I agree the welds do look the same. It might sound odd but when I first saw the welds I could even tell which country both the systems were made in.
China, huh?
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A quote from the movie Armageddon comes to mind "American components, Russian components, all made in Taiwan!"
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