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      12-12-2009, 07:49 PM   #199
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Jesus...

The Scud was clearly out for a photo shoot. The 355 Spider, guarantee that didn't have snows on it (or the driver was a moron, or both.)
How do you know? He could have had winters and be driving diligently with the utmost care?

So you are telling me when people get into accidents its because they are morons?

What kind of a driver do you think you are?

People get into situations like these because there is less margin of error when manuvering through traffic and driving in general through the winter with snow on the ground!

It doesnt matter what you drive (M or SUV), but understand in hazardous winter conditions or even hard rain, chances of wrapping around the pole are much higher!

My god this is just an accident on the driver's part, and I am amazed at your explaination!


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As for being smart enough, clearly you are ignorant and not in a position to argue the capabilities of an M3 on snow tires without ever having tried it. You stated your opinion early on, if you don't want to drive your car in the winter I really don't give a shit. Don't argue with people when you don't have the facts or experience to do so.
Listen buddy, you are the ignorant one!

We already have members who have reported how bad there experience with the Ms have been in the winter!

On the contrary some still drive them!

FYI I have had enough experience, driving sports cars in the winter.

The Maserati GT
The Continental GT
The SL600
The E46 M3 Vert
The E92 M3

Out of all these cars the bentley CGT outperformed everything, because of AWD (as you mentioned earlier)!

So stop assuming I am not speaking from experience!

I respect your opinion but dont jump to conclusions if someone doesnt agree with you!

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Would love to get this thread back on track - "Snow Pictures"...
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gee... its not like the m3 is some super car... its just a more expensive 3 series... people drive their 5 series, 7 series cars year round all the time. and some of those cars cost more than the m3...

only car i'd consider storing is a ferrari or lambo or maybe a gt3 porsche... i know people who drive their 130k porsche turbos year round. no biggie.
That is a personal choice. I have several other cars to beat and drive in the winter / snow. My E92 335 never been even out in rain.....forget snow.... Once the M3 is here, it will be a sunny day car as well.

We have enough i-diots out in snow here is Seattle to not to drive period.... Forget taking the M out. ....Plus, I am a detail freak who likes to keep undercarriage cleaner than the paint above :-)
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Agreed. I would have done the same thing.

However, Mr. Vert and I would probably agree that it would not be our daily driver in the snow.

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Dave that would be blasphemy
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That is a personal choice. I have several other cars to beat and drive in the winter / snow. My E92 335 never been even out in rain.....forget snow.... Once the M3 is here, it will be a sunny day car as well.

We have enough i-diots out in snow here is Seattle to not to drive period.... Forget taking the M out. ....Plus, I am a detail freak who likes to keep undercarriage cleaner than the paint above :-)
I rest my case
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      12-12-2009, 08:25 PM   #204
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I guess Porsches are no good in the snow either
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      12-12-2009, 08:29 PM   #205
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I guess Porsches are no good in the snow either
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That was a nice video...he was a pro

I still feel bad for that F355 in richmond hill
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      12-12-2009, 10:04 PM   #206
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Ferrari's in the snow in Toronto seems to be quite common!
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      12-12-2009, 10:18 PM   #207
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Ferrari's in the snow in Toronto seems to be quite common!
Gearhead,

You are absolutely right, heres another one
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And another one, lambo LP640 Spyder from the Gardiner Expressway.

This owner is from my area.

He had a black one earlier, he got this recently...after crashing it

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Here we are all cleaned up with the mud flaps gone.

Somehow we survived the snow, ice and wild SUVs with 4-season tires. I don't really think that my compatriots in Colorado drive better in winter than Canadians, but who knows for certain?



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I rest my case
How many times are you going to promise?

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For some clarification about the Scud, I found the thread the guy started over at 6Speed:

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/f...ml#post2294575

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The road condition wasn't that bad and my Scud was in control. I saw RWD Mercedes, BMW and Lexus driving around, it was only 2 or 3 miles away from my house and I thought it was a great opportunity to take some pictures of my car in the snow and I think it is worth it !
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NO NO....What are you talking about?

If the F430 Scuderia made down a few blocks for a PHOTOSHOOT
then it should have been a breeze for the F355

but MR. DAVE & the rest of the WinterITES can fill-in on this!

Because apparently in Colorado & other parts where these people reside all exotics and M's are on the loose racing in the winter in WORSE conditions then CANADA
Well, that is a Ferrari, so he's probably out on summer high performance tires in the winter. It's hard to see if he spun or if the Italian electronics gave out from the cold and he stalled in the middle of the road.

I still haven't seen any evidence of snow and ice conditions being worse in Toronto than Colorado. Our first snow over a foot was several weeks ago. It actually snowed, but didn't stick, on the last day of summer, leading me to put my winter tires on by the first of October. The big difference is that we get nice weather in between winter storms.

Let's not lose track of the thread. Maybe Mr. Vert could screw up his nerve and back his car out of the garage as send us a picture of how terribly scary it is there. That might drum up some simpathy.

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How many times are you going to promise?

Dave
Everytime you say that

But Dave lets agree to disagree...you make some valid points but that doesnt change my opinion or infact the others either.

We think M's should be garage queens in the winter for many reasons, and you dont!

Some people drive Scuds in the snow and some people drive F355s in the snow....the outcomes are infront of you.

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Maybe Mr. Vert could screw up his nerve and back his car out of the garage as send us a picture of how terribly scary it is there. That might drum up some simpathy.

Dave
The lambo in orange posted above is being driven in snow, but hey to each his own.

He still hasnt learnt his lesson after crashing his black one, but hey some of us are just ignorant...
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Well, that is a Ferrari, so he's probably out on summer high performance tires in the winter. It's hard to see if he spun or if the Italian electronics gave out from the cold and he stalled in the middle of the road.


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Dont make assumptions, that he was on summer rubber?

He could have been on winters too and this kind of shit is more likely to happen on snow covered roads, then on a hot sunny day with clear conditions!

And even if he is on summers, these are exactly the kind of people I want to avoid driving my M with during winter!
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Dont make assumptions, that he was on summer rubber?

He could have been on winters too and this kind of shit is more likely to happen on snow covered roads, then on a hot sunny day with clear conditions!

And even if he is on summers, these are exactly the kind of people I want to avoid driving my M with during winter!
You can see on the sidewall it says "PZero Corsa", so he was running on R-comps. Soooo.... both of you are wrong
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I think they were referring to the 355 and assuming it had summers on. As you say you can see what the Scud has on.
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You can see on the sidewall it says "PZero Corsa", so he was running on R-comps. Soooo.... both of you are wrong
Good eye.

Unfortunately for him, Rs generally have less tread than summers AND the compound that's so soft and sticky in the summer turns to brick in the winter.

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You would have been a "goner", seriously? Just what do people think police cars, ambulances, fire engines, and other emergency vehicles have for the drive wheels? The vast majority are rear wheel drive with snows mounted. Colorado Highway Patrol Crown Vics are out on I-70 in the mountains here in some of the worst conditions you will find anywhere - sub zero temps, white out blizzards, steep grades... They are nose heavy, huge pieces of shit and they do great. I have been in my M in those conditions and my car performed great as well.

If you have the means and desire to have two cars, good for anybody who does (seriously). And, yes, an AWD car with snows would have better traction under acceleration than a comparable RWD car. Personally, I like having one car that can handle anything, a snowstorm in the mountains or a track in 100F heat. Just don't say that the M cannot be driven in severe winter conditions unless you have actually experienced it yourself with the right equipment (tires).
Do you check out what I have on my car, with the drop and molded front I wouldn't have been going anywhere.
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Yes sir, I agree with you!

I mean these guys wont understand, so dont even bother...

Glad you made it home safely
THANKS for the kind words, I'm a girl BTW!!!!
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THANKS for the kind words, I'm a girl BTW!!!!
My bad

Wow! a girl with a M3 + mods, you have good taste

Where abouts were you visiting in toronto?
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