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      12-06-2009, 05:20 PM   #45
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s5>335, don't kid yourselves.
hahahahha dont worry put new turbos in a 335i say bye bye to a s5

i dont care for audis one bit sorry...
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      12-06-2009, 05:39 PM   #46
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go audizine.com. there is a main post there shows a stock S4 puts down 307whp 3rd gear, and 295whp 4th gear , and APR's stock S4 puts down 316whp.

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Impressive! What are people getting to the wheels wheels stock?

I guess what I was getting at is -[in my opinion] for 58 (or whatever they are loaded - base is not realistic for me b/c I like the toys) it should have more power - if not at least have the potential?

The fact we can tune the N54 so easily I got sucked in - simple as that. For me there is something to be said about a car that responds well to simple modifcations (a la 5-liter Mustangs). I wanted an S5 for a long time but when it was time to hand over the cash, I went for the cheaper 335 with it's power potential and resale.

What message boards are you reading? I'd be interested in seeing what the S4/5 people are up to.

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Actually the Audi S4 lease is not bad ANYMORE. My 335i lease will be over in march and I just ordered an S4: 300 over invoice, 0.00144 MF and 54% residual. On a 55,000 MSRP S4, I'm paying slightly less than what my friend is paying for his recently leased, similarly priced E92 335i.

After test driving the S4, i thought the car was impressive but it wasn't a instant winner. the handling wasn't better than my 335. I thought overall Audi did a pretty good job. The sports differential feature is pretty impressive and so is dual clutch 7 speed auto transmission.

Why did pick S4 over E90 335i? I was looking for something *NEW*. New for me and the market. I enjoyed my 335i coupe for 3 years. got it few months after it came out. I need to get a 4 door now and E90 is just a little old. I lease my cars so why not drive something different for next 3 years. I will switch back when the F30 will be out
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go audizine.com. there is a main post there shows a stock S4 puts down 307whp 3rd gear, and 295whp 4th gear , and APR's stock S4 puts down 316whp.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/28/r...is-underrated/
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      12-07-2009, 12:40 AM   #49
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Is the S4 really that much better looking on the inside than a 3 series?

I too have test driven the S4 and I really did not see what people seem to always rave about. I did not like the size and feel of the steering wheel and I felt the seats were not as supportive and just did not feel as good as my sport seats.

I told my wife about what seems to be the accepted consensus about Audi interiors and asked her to be as objective as possible. She too could not give the S4 the nod for having a better interior. She told me she actually prefers the BMW interior for its looks and simplicity, and said that the Audi did score some points with her for having a more spacious rear seating area.

Are we both missing something?
i think the interior is not taht great... i dont get why people are like "oh my god audi has so much better interior than my 3."
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      12-07-2009, 12:48 AM   #50
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I've only got eyes for the R8, until then Audi.

Though the S5 coupe is growing on me more and more every day.

Nah, what am I saying....

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not even the r8 impresses me haha..
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not even the r8 impresses me haha..
You know when it first came out I was like, "Damn that's a nice car."

I've seen a couple in person and I've never really been blown away. Of course the right color combo makes all the difference.

E92's are one of the sexiest cars on the road, but that's me.
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You know when it first came out I was like, "Damn that's a nice car."

I've seen a couple in person and I've never really been blown away. Of course the right color combo makes all the difference.

E92's are one of the sexiest cars on the road, but that's me.
+1 i like e92's and new lci too they stand out the most for me all other cars are just like whatever haha

and maybe if we wait long enough bmw might come out with its own supercar..
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      12-07-2009, 02:20 AM   #54
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I don't know, I love my e92 and all, but I think the S5 takes it on looks (also not nearly as common around here, which helps the subjective 'wow' factor)
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s5 isnt that great looking to tell you the truth.. just looks like our 335i
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I don't know, I love my e92 and all, but I think the S5 takes it on looks (also not nearly as common around here, which helps the subjective 'wow' factor)
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      12-07-2009, 02:46 AM   #57
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I like this answer.
now why is that?
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now why is that?
It's a complete non bias opinion, at least that's what I think. The e92 is nice don't get me wrong(I own one) but the S5's lines are sharper and more dramatic. They catch your eye, while the e92's...are duller then the competition and not as lively.
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hmm i wouldnt say that... the s5 doesnt really catch my eye at all my girlfriend says look an s5 and it takes me hours to find ahhahaha
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hmm i wouldnt say that... the s5 doesnt really catch my eye at all my girlfriend says look an s5 and it takes me hours to find ahhahaha
It's eye catching to me. I do think Audi has finally found their mojo. Now if they could only work on the reliability. I am pretty sure that the new F32 will be nothing short of amazing, and I beleive it will bring all those that left BMW for the Audi S4, back to BMW.
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i dont think so.. but you might be right haha
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I agree the Audi is a nicer place to be in than the e9x 3 series.. And I do agree that although the seats are Recaros and look awesome, its just not as comfortable as it looks. It actually puts you in a strange seating position... Maybe i'm too used to my porsche or the simplicity of my Fj.

The car does have good get up.. When I drove it, It was about 100 degrees outside and the torque was definitely there but the engine was not exciting. Exhaust is quiet, the car feels too quiet inside for whats supposed to be a sporty GT car.

I felt the steering feedback was numb and could be much much heavier. The cornering I felt was not that great either. My salesperson was pretty cool so I got to do about 15 miles tearing up some corners. You are always reminded that this car is very heavy and FWD Biased AWD car.. Its definitely not as athletic as any 3 series...

On the flipside - I don't hate the car I just wouldn't expect the car to take the place of a 335i or a M3 but rather be an extra car for those days you want to take out some guests or head to a club with a couple buddies.. Its no doubt an awesome car but I do prefer the feel of the b7 S4 to the b8..
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dude interior on audi is not that great!!
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I would personally go with 335i over S4. But I would choose a S5 over a 335i.
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I would personally go with 335i over S4. But I would choose a S5 over a 335i.
now why would you do that
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I agree the Audi is a nicer place to be in than the e9x 3 series.. And I do agree that although the seats are Recaros and look awesome, its just not as comfortable as it looks. It actually puts you in a strange seating position... Maybe i'm too used to my porsche or the simplicity of my Fj.

The car does have good get up.. When I drove it, It was about 100 degrees outside and the torque was definitely there but the engine was not exciting. Exhaust is quiet, the car feels too quiet inside for whats supposed to be a sporty GT car.

I felt the steering feedback was numb and could be much much heavier. The cornering I felt was not that great either. My salesperson was pretty cool so I got to do about 15 miles tearing up some corners. You are always reminded that this car is very heavy and FWD Biased AWD car.. Its definitely not as athletic as any 3 series...

On the flipside - I don't hate the car I just wouldn't expect the car to take the place of a 335i or a M3 but rather be an extra car for those days you want to take out some guests or head to a club with a couple buddies.. Its no doubt an awesome car but I do prefer the feel of the b7 S4 to the b8..
The new S4 and A/S5 address the issue FWD bias AWD issue. They are RWD bias(just like xDrive) and have a 60/40 split(just like xDrive) The great thing about Audi's is that they have a mechanical LSD and not an electrical one. That's why they're so good in snow. Audi is aiming for BMW, and they're getting close. The feedback I felt was ok, not as good but I could deal with it. The 3 series is the best of both worlds, it's luxurious and sporty. No other car can do that as good as a 3 series can. BMW has perfected it.
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