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      12-06-2009, 02:45 AM   #23
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So in the end BMW shoots themselves in the foot with residuals when they try to resell the car, and Audi may actually be making a smarter business move. BMW lease prices have been artificially low for years....not a bad thing if you pick up a good CPO deal or lease deal right...
Here BMWs sell for much higher than their residuals and often times people buy out their cars, sell privately, and pocket the savings. And how is Audi smarter by leasing less cars due to lower residuals which equals higher unattractive payments??
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Felt slow but definitely wasn't according to speedometer.
Its about all that matters...
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      12-06-2009, 06:18 AM   #25
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Me too

I like the lines of the S5 though; very well done for an Audi coupe.

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my girlfriend loves the s5 though... shes all damn look at taht im like what that ugly s5 and she gets mad
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      12-06-2009, 12:53 PM   #26
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the engine felt great, but like i said i didn't really feel a kick unless i left it in 2nd.

also, in terms of the interior, i stated i didn't like the seats or steering wheel as much, but i did like the console and the setup more.
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      12-06-2009, 12:53 PM   #27
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s5>335, don't kid yourselves.
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      12-06-2009, 01:00 PM   #28
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Am I the only one that doesnt like the new Audi LED's???

I think they are so bright that they are distracting. And I dont like the way they turn off when you put on the turn signal (I understand why they must, they are so bright you would never see the turn signal).

I do like the front end of the Audi though.

I am not as big a fan of the S4 though as I am the S5. Thats a beautiful car.
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      12-06-2009, 01:16 PM   #29
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s5>335, don't kid yourselves.
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The s5 is gorgeous sure! But it just doesnt walk the talk. The s5 looks 10000x faster than the 335i

Talking about the s4.... can it honestly be that much better than the 335i?
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      12-06-2009, 01:24 PM   #30
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I'll say it again:

Where is the S4 coupe?
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      12-06-2009, 01:25 PM   #31
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s5>335, don't kid yourselves.
It's more expensive, yes.
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      12-06-2009, 01:52 PM   #32
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Those white xmas lights on the Audi's are awesome! But it ends there.
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      12-06-2009, 02:28 PM   #33
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s5>335, don't kid yourselves.
There is definitely more tech and flash, but for the money it should have 400 HP.

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      12-06-2009, 02:34 PM   #34
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Yup Audi keeps shooting themselves in the foot with their leasing
It is simply a function of residual value, not choice.
S4 is a very nice car though. Audi has made some nice changes over the past couple of years too all of their cars. Must have a new designer.
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      12-06-2009, 02:35 PM   #35
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Am I the only one that doesnt like the new Audi LED's???

I think they are so bright that they are distracting. And I dont like the way they turn off when you put on the turn signal (I understand why they must, they are so bright you would never see the turn signal).

I do like the front end of the Audi though.

I am not as big a fan of the S4 though as I am the S5. Thats a beautiful car.
I thought they were absolutely hot as hell - until I started seeing them around the 'Cities - they're too much. Dare I call them tacky or gaudy? I think the light signature is cool at night but it needs to be toned down - they are way too damn bright. I had a beef with BMW and the non-LED angel eyes, but now I kinda think they were on to something after seen some of the newer cars with LED DRL's.

Don't get me wrong, LED's will be hot when they use them for the angel eyes but hopefully they're done right - not in your face bright. Give those Audi's a few years and they'll look ridiculous.

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      12-06-2009, 02:40 PM   #36
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Yup Audi keeps shooting themselves in the foot with their leasing
there is nothing they can do, there cars depreciate much faster then a BMW. KBB recently praised BMW for high resale value, which means our lease rates are going to be super competitive, if not #1 in lux market.
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      12-06-2009, 02:40 PM   #37
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Where is the S4 coupe?
It's called the S5..
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I'll say it again:

Where is the S4 coupe?
S5?
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      12-06-2009, 02:53 PM   #39
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s5>335, don't kid yourselves.
When the supercharged engine goes into the coupe, yes. Until then, No.
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      12-06-2009, 03:21 PM   #40
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S5?
Too much $$$.

BMW has 335i coupe, sedan and M3 coupe, sedan.
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So in the end BMW shoots themselves in the foot with residuals when they try to resell the car, and Audi may actually be making a smarter business move. BMW lease prices have been artificially low for years....not a bad thing if you pick up a good CPO deal or lease deal right...
Actually it is a good business move by BMW. Volume is the key. Since leases are the majority of the US business, making an artificial residual value higher, increases volume.

My car is currently not worth the end of lease buyout according to both KB and Edmonds. I still have 10 months left on the lease.
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      12-06-2009, 03:46 PM   #42
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400hp, well on some recent dynos....it does push 380 crank. 20 more and it will be value.
Impressive! What are people getting to the wheels wheels stock?

I guess what I was getting at is -[in my opinion] for 58 (or whatever they are loaded - base is not realistic for me b/c I like the toys) it should have more power - if not at least have the potential?

The fact we can tune the N54 so easily I got sucked in - simple as that. For me there is something to be said about a car that responds well to simple modifcations (a la 5-liter Mustangs). I wanted an S5 for a long time but when it was time to hand over the cash, I went for the cheaper 335 with it's power potential and resale.

What message boards are you reading? I'd be interested in seeing what the S4/5 people are up to.

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And if they do you can just turn them off using Vag-com. But I will bet they won't and if BMW decides to go with the LED than it will look ridiculous because they will then just be copying Audi just like if Audi copied the Angel eyes. IMO both the LED and Angel eyes look great and provide each manufacturer a strong branding.
iDrive has the ability to turn of the DRL's as well. I was referring to LED's in the corona rings - I might not have been clear. I 100% agree that each manufacture needs to retain a certain level of branding.

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When the supercharged engine goes into the coupe, yes. Until then, No.

THe video above is the "old" V8 in the S5. Next year's should be the V6SC...end of story then...until the Bimmer updates the 335 line...
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