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      12-04-2009, 03:20 PM   #23
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100% it will be a 2011. This has already been confirmed numerous places.
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      12-04-2009, 03:26 PM   #24
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Or you could wait for the 2011 to come out and buy a 2010 off the lot at a steal
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Great. Got a link?
or ask your dealer - BMWNA will tell them this. I don't have time to go looking for links when you guys can search for yourselves.
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      12-04-2009, 03:47 PM   #26
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or ask your dealer - BMWNA will tell them this. I don't have time to go looking for links when you guys can search for yourselves.
In other words, you've got nothing.
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      12-04-2009, 03:48 PM   #27
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If you are genuinely interested in one and inquire about it at your dealer, you will get the info. I don't know how else you can get proof. BMWNA would never tell you that info on their website, right? Your dealer is the one ordering the car, they know what's going on.
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      12-04-2009, 03:55 PM   #28
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not all dealers know what's going on that's the unfortunate truth
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      12-04-2009, 04:10 PM   #29
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not all dealers know what's going on that's the unfortunate truth
That's very true - but they all can email BMWNA with a question and get an answer from them. As mine has...
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BMW always raises price by like 1-2%, big deal - the resale value improvement for one model year over the next is like $5000 on avg. Much better to wait.
I wasn't thinking resale value would be that different - but I guess when you put that way it's really a no-brainer.
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why do M3 drivers always think they are so special???

they are not going to make a 2010 march production a 2011
got over yourselves, we drive 3-series...its nothing more special than the next G35 or w/e

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The price will probably not go down. The Euro has appreciated significantly against the U.S. Dollar. At ~1.50 EUR/USD, BMW gets less Euros per car they sell in the U.S. than they did when the Euro was at ~1.25 EUR/USD, cutting their margins if they sell for the same U.S. Dollar MSRP. I think there is a larger likelihood that the price will go up.

That said, I would absolutely wait a couple extra months for the LED lights and other potential updates.
I agree price will probably not go down, but there was a significant price drop this summer while the exchange rate was roughly the same as it is now.

Another SA (I don't really trust his sales techniques) mentioned a price increase in Mar. Not sure if he knows or is just trying to gen sales - but I suspect he's right.
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Or you could wait for the 2011 to come out and buy a 2010 off the lot at a steal
Don't have the options for older model US Spec here in Europe. Plus I want to enjoy it while I'm here.
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why do M3 drivers always think they are so special???

they are not going to make a 2010 march production a 2011
got over yourselves, we drive 3-series...its nothing more special than the next G35 or w/e

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This is the quote from my SA, "The M3 is going to be in the 2011 model year in March 2010. Its a bit of a strange thing to do, but they have moved everything forward.So instead of the model year changing in September, its now March this year!"
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If you are unsure of anything, make him put it in writing, and the difference is to be made up to you by whomever the power he serves may be. If he can do that then the crap is pretty much true

If he can't, well then tell him he is full of the shiz and get your 2010.


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      12-04-2009, 05:03 PM   #36
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why do M3 drivers always think they are so special???

they are not going to make a 2010 march production a 2011
got over yourselves, we drive 3-series...its nothing more special than the next G35 or w/e

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You're forgetting that if the M3 is a 2011, then so will be the 3 series also. As far as I know, no one is claiming that only the M3 would get the MY 2011 label. That wouldn't make sense since it gets fewer changes than the 3 series its based on.
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and by the way he could be military or civilian working for government over there buying it from pentagon car sales or whatever they have over there.
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      12-04-2009, 05:05 PM   #38
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This is the quote from my SA, "The M3 is going to be in the 2011 model year in March 2010. Its a bit of a strange thing to do, but they have moved everything forward.So instead of the model year changing in September, its now March this year!"
As others have said, I doubt VERY much this will be the case. It will remain a 2010, like the E46, and be informally called a 2010.5. I would lay money on this.

"Just as the BMW 3-Series Coupe and Convertible are due for a facelift, so are the high-performance M3 Coupe and M3 Convertible, both of which have been captured once again testing in prototype form.

The only noticeable difference is the slightly revised tail lamps, which get new LED elements. Most of the visual changes will take place inside, and will include improved trim, a new center armrest and a second-generation iDrive system with four selector buttons for commonly used features such as the stereo. The iDrive system should also feature a new 8.8 inch LCD display and an optional 80 GB hard drive music and navigation system.
Power levels will remain unchanged, meaning the high-revving 4.0-liter V-8 from the current model will carry over with a peak output of 420 horsepower. One possibility is the addition of fuel-saving engine stop-start system, though BMW is yet to make any announcements of such a move for its M cars.

Expect the facelifted M3 range to debut as 2010 models at next year’s Detroit Auto Show in January." --M-Series.com
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There are notices that tell the dealers 12/x (don't remember the exact date) is the last date to order MY2010 and all 2010 deliveries is 4/14.
outie - are you certain that this information is for the M3? I ask because often times information that is specifically for the 3 series is incorrectly extrapolated to include the M3.

(On the other hand, sometimes information that does not mention the M3, but only mentions the 3 series, turns out to apply to both also, yes.)
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Maybe taking orders for the new 5 series but not the M3
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Huh? The 2009s already adopted the 2nd generation iDrive and the new multi-button controller.

In my opinion there won't be Stop-Start on an engine/transmission combination that wasn't designed to accommodate it to begin with either.


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As others have said, I doubt VERY much this will be the case. It will remain a 2010, like the E46, and be informally called a 2010.5. I would lay money on this.

"Just as the BMW 3-Series Coupe and Convertible are due for a facelift, so are the high-performance M3 Coupe and M3 Convertible, both of which have been captured once again testing in prototype form.

The only noticeable difference is the slightly revised tail lamps, which get new LED elements. Most of the visual changes will take place inside, and will include improved trim, a new center armrest and a second-generation iDrive system with four selector buttons for commonly used features such as the stereo. The iDrive system should also feature a new 8.8 inch LCD display and an optional 80 GB hard drive music and navigation system.
Power levels will remain unchanged, meaning the high-revving 4.0-liter V-8 from the current model will carry over with a peak output of 420 horsepower. One possibility is the addition of fuel-saving engine stop-start system, though BMW is yet to make any announcements of such a move for its M cars.

Expect the facelifted M3 range to debut as 2010 models at next year’s Detroit Auto Show in January." --M-Series.com
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“new 8.8 inch LCD display”

How new can it be???current model already has 8.8 display....
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If you are unsure of anything, make him put it in writing, and the difference is to be made up to you by whomever the power he serves may be. If he can do that then the crap is pretty much true

If he can't, well then tell him he is full of the shiz and get your 2010.


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As others have said, I doubt VERY much this will be the case. It will remain a 2010, like the E46, and be informally called a 2010.5. I would lay money on this.
Are you basing this solely on what happened to the E46, or are there other examples? Perhaps BMW found it a huge hassle having a 2010.5 and have learned from their mistakes, with just enough cosmetic changes / parts to justify a new model year.
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